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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / The Jester from the West
« Last post by MartinJG on March 19, 2018, 11:21:57 PM »

Thought this might interest folk.

I could be wrong, but we might just have discovered the missing link in the evolutionary journey from Ape to Homo Sapiens.

Interesting to see the passing traffic included two Honda CRV's. Not a great ad for Jeep.

Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Water in car
« Last post by sparky Paul on March 19, 2018, 10:46:56 PM »
I was sure it had been covered on here before, so I had a quick search and found it in this old thread with an explanation of the remedy...

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Never say never, but I can't see us staying with Honda going forwards.  We've already swapped one car to another brand.  The local dealership doesn't help matters either.
Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: MPG for those interested.
« Last post by Downsizer on March 19, 2018, 10:36:57 PM »
So, very early days and a small sample mileage wise but I'm pleased. Looks like a 10% increase in mpg is on the cards. I've got the BB code so this will show my average mpg as future fuel ups are added.
7-10% improvement over a Mk 2 is a reasonable expectation based on my experience after 20,000 miles.
Another aspect that annoys me is that the my car overestimates the real speed by about 7%, so the limiter operates below the real limit.  You can correct this manually, but you have to repeat the correction every time the car sees a new limit sign.  Coupled with the other problems noted above, I have decided not to bother with it.  I've driven for 58 years without penalty (not without breaking the limit!) so I'm prepared to take the risk.
It makes sense to me that the same button is used for all three functions as they can only be used independently of each other.

The controls do the same (or very similar) things in each mode.

The brakes are never applied, only engine braking, when a limit is exceeded.

Pressing the accelerator pedal to the floor will override in any of the modes, as will the cancel button.

I use the intelligent limiter all of the time but it does have the limitations as previously described so I will never totally rely on it (Your Honour).  You are always the driver, this is just an aid.

One annoying feature of the intelligent limiter is that it cancels if you indicate and turn sharply down a side road.
Some people obviously like speed limiters. The salesman told me he preferred it to Cruise Control. I've only ever been done for speeding once and that was at 4.30 in the morning so I don't think I need it.

It just mucks up the controls for the cruise. The Mk3's instrumentation is a step back from the clarity of the Mk2 - all the numbers are tiny and difficult to read. You have to press "Main" then toggle between speed limiter and cruise using a button that says "LIM."

Very poor design if you ask me. Should have mentioned it in my thread comparing the Mk2 to the Mk3.

But user friendliness is old hat in all sorts of areas these days.
I got an email asking me to contact the Sales Dept with a personal code for the special deal.

What were they offering you?
Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Water in car
« Last post by MaxFrames on March 19, 2018, 09:34:19 PM »
Dear fellow Jazzer,
I was just about to post about the same problem.
It's been pretty damp down here in North-East Italy lately.
For weeks the car reeked like a wet dog.
Yesterday I decided I'd had enough, lifted the rear carpets (which were dripping at that point) and found the rear footwell had turned into a Florida swamp.
It took half an hour with Mr. Hoover to remove approximately four buckets of water from under the mat.
After another hour the swamp was back. So it just occurred to me: I opened the trunk, lifted the spare wheel lid, and lo and behold, the spare wheel compartment had turned into an Olympic swimming pool, and the water had eventually reached the top and leaked to the passenger compartment.
I removed the rear lights plastic covers and found that the INSIDE of the car was wet. Rain had been coming in down from above somewhere, then seeped through the bottom edge of the plastic cover inside the trunk into the spare wheel compartment, and then to the passenger foot well.
After researching the matter, the source of the leaking is probably somewhere under the two black rubber strips on the sides of the roof, next to the trunk. There is some factory-applied sealant there which has the habit of cracking over time, and when it happens, rain comes in and floods the trunk.
I will have the car inspected tomorrow, and I hope there's a way to fix this without disassembling the interiors (which would probably be the death toll for my old Jazz, it'd just be not worth it).
In other words, we may have the same problem as this gentleman:
Anyone want to chime in?
Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Autonomous vehicles.
« Last post by Jocko on March 19, 2018, 09:32:33 PM »
I'm not sure what the total number of miles racked up by autonomous vehicles is so far
Waymo had racked up 4 million miles about 6 months ago, and Uber had covered 2 million to December.
My comment about aircraft black box was appropriate. The NTSB, who investigate air crashes of US carriers or US manufactured aircraft, are investigating the crash
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