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Title: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5305 on April 03, 2015, 10:36:43 AM
Just got a recall letter for the front passengar airbag! Apparently some '03 and '04 models have over-pressurised airbags which, if inflated, could reslt in the inflator rupturing and metal fragments "passing into the passenger compartment".  :o

I'm going on a long drive next Wednesday so I rang the Honda garage and asked if they could fit me in before then, as not overjoyed at the idea of my first motorway drive with a potentially dodgy airbag!

Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: marymck on July 30, 2015, 05:09:27 PM
... or rather, when a recall is not a recall.

I had a letter today from Honda that both my front passenger and driver airbags are subject to a safety recall.  BUT Honda won't have the parts to do the rectifications until late September at the earliest!  That's a long time to be driving with knowledge of a potentially fatal fault.  Apparently Honda have known about this for years and it appears at least eight people may have died as a result of shrapnel being exploded into the passenger compartment when the airbag deployed.

I drive a 2006 Honda Jazz, but it seems millions of cars are affected, across lots of brands.  The defective airbags were made by a company called Takata, I think in Mexico.

I'm setting off on a journey of a couple of hundred miles tomorrow and I'm not comforted by the Honda customer services lady's assurance that "there's only a problem if the airbags deploy" and that it's more likely to happen in hot and humid weather.

I asked that the airbags be disconnected, but she said they're not allowed to do that.

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Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on July 30, 2015, 06:07:37 PM
if they have lasted since 2006 they will be fine. i would be more worried about them destroying the dash board when they replace them
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4283 on July 30, 2015, 11:40:54 PM
Takata is an automotive parts company based in Japan. Their Mexican subsidiary screwed up in "...manufacture of explosive propellants and improperly stored chemicals used in airbags...". :o

Affected cars are from BMW, Chrysler, Ford, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, and Toyota. :o

Honda stated they knew of more than 100 injuries and eight deaths (seven in the United States plus one in Malaysia) that were related to Takata airbags. :o

Drive careful people!

I suggest wearing protective eye goggles and a leather flying jacket zipped up.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Ozzie on July 31, 2015, 07:46:45 AM
I have just looked at DVLA recall pages and its for Jazzs built between June 2003 and September 2004, http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA%20JAZZ)%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx= (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA%20JAZZ)%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx=)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: bill ericay on July 31, 2015, 04:54:08 PM
I have just looked at DVLA recall pages and its for Jazzs built between June 2003 and September 2004, http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA%20JAZZ)%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx= (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA%20JAZZ)%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx=)

Whoops!!!!  Page 2 shows Jazz 2003-2008.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4283 on July 31, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
Whoops!!!!  Page 2 shows Jazz 2003-2008.

I don't see that. Only page 3 lists airbag problems:
10/06/2003 -   02/09/2004
25/12/2002 -   23/04/2003
21/09/2001 -   27/12/2002
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: bill ericay on July 31, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
Link http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=2&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=2&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA) JAZZ)  for the date range 01/Jan/2013 to 01/Jul/2015&tx=
Gives me 2 pages of Honda recalls unless I'm looking at it wrong.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: bill ericay on July 31, 2015, 07:58:20 PM
Just tried it again and the link has changed !
Anyway change the dates of search from Jan 2013  to July 2015 and you get 2 pages which includes Jazz up to 2008.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: bill ericay on July 31, 2015, 08:00:00 PM
Or----
_launch_date < date() AND recalls.rec_launch_date Between #1/Jan/2013# And #31/07/2015# AND UCase(models.rmo_make) LIKE "%HONDA%" AND UCase(models.rmo_model) LIKE "%JAZZ%" ORDER BY rec_launch_date ASC   

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Criteria : (HONDA JAZZ) for the date range 01/Jan/2013 to 01/Jul/2015
Information : Click on the recalls number to expand the detail and hover over the concern for a quick insight into the defect
Please note that certain recalls have the same reference number, but relate to different models/variants of the same manufacturer/vehicle. 


#

Launch Date

Recalls Number

Make

Model(s)

Concern

VIN Start

VIN End

Build Start

Build End


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29/06/2015 R/2015/103 HONDA Civic, CR-V & Jazz    drivers airbag may rupture if deployed
  LUCGE273053200017 LUCGE375073202553   

12
29/06/2015 R/2015/103 HONDA Civic, CR-V & Jazz    drivers airbag may rupture if deployed
  JHMGD18504S215442 JHMGD57307S203184   

13
29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  MRHGM15209P010001 MRHGM16609P050438 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

14
29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  LUCGE273063200001 LUCGE377083208730 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

15
29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  JHMGE67809S200015 JHMGG17409S207287 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

16
29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  JHMGD17504S205055 JHMGD57308S201153 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

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Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4283 on July 31, 2015, 08:28:05 PM
This is what I see:

Criteria : (HONDA JAZZ) for the date range 01/Jan/1992 to 01/Jan/2015

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=%28HONDA%20JAZZ%29%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx= (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=%28HONDA%20JAZZ%29%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx=)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4283 on July 31, 2015, 09:23:53 PM
Ok, got it on page 4:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=4&pagesize=10&resultString=%28HONDA%20JAZZ%29%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jul/2015&tx= (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=4&pagesize=10&resultString=%28HONDA%20JAZZ%29%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jul/2015&tx=)

Now excuse me will I nip down the shops to buy some goggles ;D
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: marymck on August 01, 2015, 11:13:25 AM
This website has further details ...

http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive-takata-airbag-recall-everything-you-need-to-know-including-full-list-of-affected-vehicles/ (http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive-takata-airbag-recall-everything-you-need-to-know-including-full-list-of-affected-vehicles/)

It seems the exploding airbags send shrapnel flying through the passenger compartment, so short of a kevlar full bodysuit there's not a lot we can do unless we mothball our cars till the parts arrive.

The lady I spoke to at Honda confirmed that both my front passenger and driver airbags are affected.  (In some cases it's one or the other.)

Some may think that because of shortage of spares Honda have dealt with the most litigious countries (Japan and the USA) before moving on to the rest of the world.

Honda did try to phone me yesterday afternoon, but I was on the motorway and so didn't get their message to ring them back until they'd closed for the weekend.  I'll report back after I've spoken to them. 

This has definitely taken a lot of the pleasure out of my current driving holiday!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: marymck on August 01, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
Honda have a video about the issue here ...

http://hondaairbaginfo.com/ (http://hondaairbaginfo.com/)

... but I think some of the info is only aimed at Americans, because they say if parts aren't available drivers can be loaned a car.  That's not the case in the UK, where we have to keep calm and carry on.  (Or ride the bomb, Slim Pickins style.)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: culzean on August 01, 2015, 03:23:58 PM
Some may think that because of shortage of spares Honda have dealt with the most litigious countries (Japan and the USA) before moving on to the rest of the world.

Honda did try to phone me yesterday afternoon, but I was on the motorway and so didn't get their message to ring them back until they'd closed for the weekend.  I'll report back after I've spoken to them. 

This has definitely taken a lot of the pleasure out of my current driving holiday!

Manufacturers seem to be targeting countries because their weather is hotter and more humid,  both seem to be risk factors in this problem.  I guess they will get round to temperate / cold countries later - Unless you are driving in Florida / Southern USA / South Asia  don't let it spoil your holiday

It's very telling that Toyota and Honda were the first to move for recall of vehicles because of this problem.
( I always think some companies are more pro-active than others recalling because of faults,  its not that they make more faulty vehicles its just that they fess up when they have a problem and don't try to hide it - not issuing recalls is known as 'doing a Chrysler' in USA).

Looks like BMW doesn't think much of people who drive its cars 'BMW is now the last automaker (of five) holding out from NHTSA’s demand for a nationwide airbag recall on affected vehicles'

One other thing bothers me,  Honda has a car plant in Mexico :o
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5298 on August 01, 2015, 04:04:55 PM
I tweeted Honda US originally as I didn't realise it was the US account, they replied straight away and said that they would provide a loan car until fixed, when they realised I was in UK they told me to contact Honda UK which I then did. When they eventually replied they said it wasn't unsafe to drive and to wait to hear if mine is affected! I said that if a safety device is faulty then surely it isn't safe to drive and they said that it was only an issue if I had high impact accident! My point was that I don't know when I'm going to be in an accident!!! They kept fobbing me off so I phoned customer services to be told much the same thing, they don't seem to get the fact that we don't know when we're going to be in an accident, that's why they're accidents!! I tweeted once again and they took more details and said mine wasn't affected, however, in the meantime I had written to Honda headquarters and when they EVENTUALLY replied they said it was safe to drive unless in a high impact situation and to wait for further recall letter!!! I am absolutely baffled both by the apparent lack of concern and customer service and it has made me very nervous about driving my beautiful little Jazz...
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4283 on August 02, 2015, 12:28:33 AM
As far as I can tell no fatal airbag accidents involve Jazz, yet! A trawl of the internet reveals:

Year      Car                                          
2003 - 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX   
2009 - 2001 Accord                          
2009 - 2001 Accord                          
2014 - 2002 Acura                          
2014 - 2001 Accord                          
2014 - 2003 Civic/City (Kuala Lumpur)
2015 - 2005 Civic                          
2015 - 2002 Accord                          
2014 - 2001 Civic                          

Death occurring mostly from shrapnel into neck, and bleeding out.

This site purportedly shows aftermath of airbag explosion (warning not for the squeamish)
http://www.motoringworldng.com/reported-takata-airbag-bomb-victims/ (http://www.motoringworldng.com/reported-takata-airbag-bomb-victims/)

Now excuse me while I check up on a rather nice Renault I saw in the the classified ads this morning.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: marymck on August 02, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
I wonder if coroners and crash investigators in the UK have been aware of this issue and have therefore known what to look for in a crash?  (I'm too squeamish to look at the images in H's link.)   
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5562 on August 02, 2015, 02:00:44 PM
Just ran daughter's Jazz VIN through the Honda website and it invites us in for the airbag and drivers window switch recall repairs FOC.

I'll get in touch with local dealers  next week and see what they say.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: culzean on August 02, 2015, 05:09:40 PM
Airbags were introduced into USA in 1984 by the government because many Americans didn't use the seatbelts fitted to their cars - they are still known as SRS (supplementary restraint system) because of this, and are seen as a supplement to seatbelts.  American auto makers were resistant to the idea of fitting them on cost grounds so a law had to be passed to make them do it.

Airbags have been killing people since they were introduced,  mainly small drivers (majority women) who had their seat adjusted too far forward and had their chest crushed when steering wheel mounted airbag deployed, since then smaller airbags fitted to steering wheels but with side curtain airbags to try to cover all eventualities.

But if you compare the number of lives saved  (15,000 in USA alone from 1984 up to 2004) since they were introduced with the number that have been injured or killed by them there is no doubt in my mind they have more than proved their worth.  We have to trust the automotive engineers handling any recall to look at the available data and weigh the risks and then prioritise which vehicles are most at risk, and in which countries.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4283 on August 02, 2015, 07:40:57 PM
Just ran daughter's Jazz VIN through the Honda website...
Just tried mine and says nothing about airbag recall. :(

Honda UK Product recalls and updates page is:
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html (http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html)

Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) is found on a small metal plate riveted to the radiator support in the engine bay (page 386 of owner's manual shows you where.) Mine was a 17 character alpha numeric.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5589 on August 15, 2015, 12:14:58 PM
I bought a early 2004 Jazz last week with almost full service history and only two previous owners. Being a keen reader of automotive news, I straightaway checked the recall status of my Jazz and lo and behold there is a recall for my passenger   airbag.

Called the local dealer and they booked me in almost immediately for an inspection first which according to them will take an hour max. After that they will book me in for the actual thing.

I have a question: If there is any outstanding recall on my vehicle, for example the window switch one; would that have come up when I put my VIN number in the online tool on Honda's website?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5562 on August 15, 2015, 04:43:04 PM
Well it did with ours a couple of weeks back. And when I went in for some small parts at the dealer the parts guy alerted us to the airbag & window switch recalls.. they have parts now and booking it in next week.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on August 20, 2015, 03:19:43 PM
Just had a letter from Honda re air bag recall, just awaiting sufficient parts............
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5589 on August 22, 2015, 11:24:18 AM
After checking recall status on my Jazz using the online tool, booked in at Lookers Honda Orpington in SE London. Day before yesterday went in and they replaced it within an hour + did a basic complimentary visual inspection too.

Very pleased with the experience actually but it has left me with other things to worry about which I have posted in another thread.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on August 22, 2015, 11:39:12 AM
After checking recall status on my Jazz using the online tool, booked in at Lookers Honda Orpington in SE London. Day before yesterday went in and they replaced it within an hour + did a basic complimentary visual inspection too.

Very pleased with the experience actually but it has left me with other things to worry about which I have posted in another thread.

Well that is strange you have had your vehicle seen to re the air bag recall.

I only got a letter the other day saying they are awaiting sufficient parts before informing affected owners to bring their vehicles in.

More worrying is the fact several people have been killed due to this fault and all Honda is saying is that its OK to use so long as the airbags don't go off! How the *ell am I to know whether I am going to have a severe impact or not. You can't predict whether you gonna have an accident or not. Honda should be telling us to stop using affected vehicles and providing replacement vehicles until such time they can be fixed.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on August 22, 2015, 12:02:14 PM
Having just spoken to Honda UK the situation at the moment is they don't know which cars are affected? Its just a precautionary letter but I am still a bit concerned driving my Jazz. See my previous post.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5589 on August 22, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
After checking recall status on my Jazz using the online tool, booked in at Lookers Honda Orpington in SE London. Day before yesterday went in and they replaced it within an hour + did a basic complimentary visual inspection too.

Very pleased with the experience actually but it has left me with other things to worry about which I have posted in another thread.

Well that is strange you have had your vehicle seen to re the air bag recall.

I only got a letter the other day saying they are awaiting sufficient parts before informing affects owners to bring their vehicles in.

More worrying is the fact several people have been killed due this fault and all Honda is saying is that its OK to use so long as the airbags don't go off! How the *ell am I to know whether I am going to have a severe impact or not. You can't predict whether you gonna have an accident or not. Honda should be telling us to stop using affected vehicles and providing replacement vehicles until such time they can be fixed.

Now you have confirmed my fear.

To be honest, I was surprised when the service manager said its all done and replaced. I was originally asked to come in for a initial inspection after which they will advise me of the day the actual work will be done. When I went to collect the keys, I was told about the *dangerous* ball joint on my car and that it will be £350 to get the work done as its part of the suspension arm. I had to ask him 'what about the airbag' when do I come next? and he said oh that has been taken care of. I asked did you replace it? he said yeah its all done.

Now I did actually see them work under the passenger side dashboard and take the pillar trim off etc but did they just inspect to confirm it didn't require replacement or did they actually replace it immediately?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5077 on August 22, 2015, 07:01:40 PM
Got my Recall re airbag said there busy collecting replacements seems a lot of other makes and models are affected
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: RichardA on August 23, 2015, 10:36:45 AM
I checked my car on the Honda site last weekend and nothing came up, then the letter arrived on Thursday.

The letter states the recall affects Jazz and Insight models from 2006 to 2012. JazzyB got a letter around the same time as me so it looks like the letters are being sent it out in VIN order as we both have 2007 Jazzes. 2008 and MK2 owners should receive theirs soon.




Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Eddie Honda on August 23, 2015, 12:15:15 PM
Nothing came up for either of mine, but looking at the DVSA recalls page, they would appear to fall within the VIN range.

I'll have to get onto Universal Honda Ltd, as both my cars are ex-UK and may fall between the cracks as far as the letters go.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: bill888 on August 26, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
I just received the same Honda letter today.

However, my car was built in China and the VIN, beginning LUCGE, doesn't show up on DVLA Recall checker with regards to the air bag issue.  The Honda recall checker doesn't list anything either when I enter the full VIN.

Update:  I found this article which may be relevant to the latest recall affecting cars made between 2007 to 2011:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/honda-to-recall-another-4-5-million-cars-due-to-takata-made-airbags-1436419921 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/honda-to-recall-another-4-5-million-cars-due-to-takata-made-airbags-1436419921)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4312 on September 04, 2015, 04:02:32 PM
Also sent letter for recall-awaiting to told when to parts available for final replacement-oh well. :(
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on September 04, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Parents just got a letter re their Honda insight 2011 model

So the issue is spreading.........
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: fatlad on September 12, 2015, 11:37:01 PM
received my letter but no stock until nov 2015?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on November 07, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
More info.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/93373/honda-recalls-up-to-329000-uk-cars-for-takata-airbag-fix?_mout=1&utm_campaign=autoexpress_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/93373/honda-recalls-up-to-329000-uk-cars-for-takata-airbag-fix?_mout=1&utm_campaign=autoexpress_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter)

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: WesleyLau99 on November 14, 2015, 08:21:58 AM
FYI guys

I received the same Honda letter in September but no follow up. Than I went to buy a part in the Colliers Honda Tuesday, the part department guy nicely pointed out me there were two recalls of the airbags for my Jazz, told me to book it on the service department. Then booked it to be done for Friday, and the car should be ready for collection today.  ;)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: zorbas40 on November 30, 2015, 04:51:27 PM
I had mine just done, it was just under one hour ....(is this normal?) when they told me it will take 2 hrs, and when they gave me the car key back they gave me a list of faults they found like clutch fluid contamination 3% and other staff .....to fix they ask for £350
I never ask them to look for faults but they said they do it as standard ....
I wander if they did the job or look for more work???
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: richardfrost on December 01, 2015, 08:19:14 AM
Finallygot the 'parts available, book in now' letter last weekend for the GD that my son uses. Will get it booked in shortly. Hope they Valet the car while they have it as he never cleans it.  ;)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Eddie Honda on December 17, 2015, 01:21:17 AM
When the recall was first publicised, I checked the VIN of both my cars and they were showing as clear on the Honda UK recall VIN checker. There were no details on the Honda IRL website. The only place with affected VINs was the DVSA recalls on the government website. (It was probably on the pan-European product recalls website, but I didn't check at the time.)

Then on checking back a month or two later, I did see a page on the Irish website, listing affected VINs. UK recall VIN checker was still clear.

Mid-November, I had another peek and saw that the Irish page had disappeared again and the UK recall VIN checker was finally updated to reflect the outstanding recall on the both vehicles. Being lazy, and not unduly panicked, I thought I'd wait and see how long it would take Honda to cross-check the National Vehicle File and drop me a letter...

Well I got my first letter from Universal Honda Ltd (Ireland) on 27 Nov 2015, but that was for the car that is current off the road. Then on the 3 Dec 2015, I got the letter for the one I was using:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5702/23716637351_fbb51a8ed2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/C8KY1x)
05_AIRBAG_RECALL_01_2015_12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/C8KY1x) by E Honda (https://www.flickr.com/photos/19864651@N00/), on Flickr

I was down in the direction of a dealer last Tuesday to order some parts and book it in for the recall work. They said it would be 5 days to get both inflators in and they were keen to get it booked in that day rather than set a date after the parts had arrived. So it was booked in for today (17th).

Don't know what I'm going to do for approximately three hours.  Best I take a book as there isn't much to do in the town.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on December 17, 2015, 09:25:18 AM
I have spoken to Honda UK as my car is affected and I have received no follow up letter and was told due to the shear volume of affected models it can't send letters to all affected owners at the same time and will do in phases, also if they did it all at once it would overwhelm the dealer network.........
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Eddie Honda on December 17, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
Well that was a so-so trip.

Dropped the car off at 9am,  said I be back at noon. Wandered into town to a Costa Coffee and got a jumbo mug and sat down to freeload the internet. A couple of hours later went for a mooch before returning to the dealer at noon.

Slight problem. Asked if it was a UK import and said they did the passenger airbag ok, but the connector for the driver's airbag that they ordered in was not the correct type. Said to me that the car has a "MY2004" connector, rather than the 2005 they had ordered in. Inflator physically would fit, but connector no. The VIN is quite clearly a MY2005, so I don't buy that excuse completely. Booked a return visit for 7th Jan 2016.

No attempt to flog me anything. (No comment made on the transmission slipping in reverse either)

Got into the car and drove away. Noticed that all my radio stations were not lost and exactly as left in the morning. Clock set spot on as left. Start clutch calibration was spot-on. Hmmm. I very much doubt that the tech was so conscientious as to reprogramme all that. Are they not meant to disconnect the battery for at least 3 minutes before playing with the SRS system?

Anyway, a couple of parts / service items arrived in on Saturday that I collected whilst I was there. Also the DPD man turned up with a trailer wiring kit which I'm going to try and cram in and do before Christmas.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest1372 on December 17, 2015, 08:40:10 PM
Are they not meant to disconnect the battery for at least 3 minutes before playing with the SRS system?
I believe you can disable the airbags through the OBD-II connector, plus they are pretty stable.
--
TG
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5077 on December 21, 2015, 09:27:40 PM
I got the Airbag recall i had a 2007 1.4 auto jazz ,and traded it in for a 11 plate love the redesign bumpers .dash etc
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: RichardA on December 24, 2015, 03:36:31 PM
My second letter arrived a few weeks ago and the car is booked in for the first week in February.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Downsizer on December 26, 2015, 06:06:03 PM
I was told the work would take an hour, and it did (VIN no. JHMGE...).  I used the time to test drive a Mk III, and no attempt was made to sell me one, nor was any other repair work identified.  Good service.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5731 on December 31, 2015, 10:46:38 AM
Honda UK must give you courtesy car for this case?

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Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: RichardA on December 31, 2015, 05:12:19 PM
No courtesy car would be provided for the recall work - a case of while you wait or arrange own transport.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5826 on January 05, 2016, 12:14:59 PM
I just had mine done on a 2004 Jazz S.  About 2 hours to do this and master switch modification.  No problems and they didn't try to sell me on anything else. 
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: fatlad on January 11, 2016, 10:02:33 PM
just had mine done on my 2009 se.

only took about 1.5 hours

apparently the actual fault isn't so much the 'exploder' its the frame that holds it in place that splinters when detonated.

(passenger side airbag behind the glove box lid)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4477 on January 12, 2016, 10:57:26 PM
Had mine done today 12th 2007s.e 1.30hrs,Balmer lawn Honda, Brockenhurst, Hants.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: MaxFrames on January 13, 2016, 05:30:41 PM
Holy moly. I'll better check my VIN ASAP.
Why is it that the specialized as well as the general press gave due attention to the VW emissions scandal and was almost silent about this potentially deadly scandal? I'm reading of evidence having been deliberately destroyed some 12 years ago, and in the meantime at least 8 people (I suspect many more) have DIED and an unknown number have been SERIOUSLY INJURED by this? And seriously they expect customers to keep on driving until their time comes to be recalled? I've got the heebie jeebies...
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: MaxFrames on January 13, 2016, 07:02:49 PM
I've checked that my VIN is not (by the skin of its teeth) included in the list posted in the http://www.dft.gov.uk (http://www.dft.gov.uk) website.
BUT... the VIN is deemed invalid by the recall search engines on the Honda UK and US websites. So I entered it in the Honda IT website, and it was accepted as valid, and the message was "there is no recall for this vehicle at this time".
SO... I deliberately entered a VIN that's among the affected ones... and the message again was "no recalls at this time".
What gives? Not very reassuring...
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: culzean on January 13, 2016, 07:26:42 PM
Holy moly. I'll better check my VIN ASAP.
Why is it that the specialized as well as the general press gave due attention to the VW emissions scandal and was almost silent about this potentially deadly scandal? I'm reading of evidence having been deliberately destroyed some 12 years ago, and in the meantime at least 8 people (I suspect many more) have DIED and an unknown number have been SERIOUSLY INJURED by this? And seriously they expect customers to keep on driving until their time comes to be recalled? I've got the heebie jeebies...

Potentially 10's of thousands of people have been killed by NOx and dangerous cancer causing particulates from VW Dieseasel engines - and the cars at fault are still driving around.    The same amount have been saved from death or serious injury by airbags, a few may have been injured by faulty ones but it makes airbags sound very safe to me.  We do not live in risk free world and but one where ' if there is blame there is a claim'.

The airbags seem to give most problems in hot and humid conditions (which lets UK out), so maybe car makers are concentrating on those areas as a priority, which makes a lot of sense if supplies and resources are a problem.

Remember what Stalin said 'one death is a tragedy but a million deaths is just another statistic'.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: MaxFrames on January 13, 2016, 09:02:01 PM
I don't think you're implying that tens of thousands of people have died or will die as a direct consequence of VW tampering with their diesel engines.
We all know the consequences of traffic related pollution in terms of public health. The VW fiasco will prove to have been the proverbial pebble on top of the mountain. Nobody will ever know for sure if it caused any actual damage by itself. Whereas we have a confirmed total of 8 deaths directly caused by faulty Takata airbags, plus several injury cases. I think the Takata fiasco is far, far worse also in terms of public faith. And it didn't get half the press coverage it deserved. I came to know about it some two years later by browsing this forum! I was instantly, as I believe anyone was, made aware of the VW incident by the media. I agree about airbags being a blessing: one of my closest relatives' life was literally saved by the airbags (and she was driving a MK II Jazz, I'm proud to say). It's just faulty ones that concern me. Anyway sorry, I don't want to bring this thread off topic.

Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: culzean on January 14, 2016, 01:03:00 PM
I don't think you're implying that tens of thousands of people have died or will die as a direct consequence of VW tampering with their diesel engines. We all know the consequences of traffic related pollution in terms of public health.

it is a fact that NOx is a poison to humans, same as Diesel particulates cause cancer and both cause people to die,  NOx and particulates are main ingredients of smog (which is occurring in European capitals and triggered backlash against Diesels long before VW was 'outed') whereas CO2 is not poisonous (but too much in a confined space will rob you of oxygen).

What VW have done is sold cars that didn't meet Euro emission standards as far as NOx is concerned and never will - so yes I am implying that VW have killed people by their deception.  The truth is out there,  Google NOx and particulates and their health related problems..................................

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28245-nitrogen-oxide-is-not-so-harmless-and-could-damage-human-health/ (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28245-nitrogen-oxide-is-not-so-harmless-and-could-damage-human-health/)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jasonevans on January 18, 2016, 10:32:32 AM
Mines booked in for Wed 27th Jan . Both airbags and the drivers window switch recall. They rekon 2 hours tops.

After seeing a drivers airbag demo  when I was at the Honda Institute in 2009 I'm not hanging about to get this done . hehe

Here's a Vid here for your amusment : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYKwPnmgM0U&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYKwPnmgM0U&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4966 on January 24, 2016, 09:05:24 PM
I took mine to my local Crown Honda in Hendon just before Christmas. Done in 1.5 hours. But they seemed to have sratched my steering wheel.  >:(
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4312 on January 25, 2016, 04:15:37 PM
 :o
Had to phone local dealer to remind them that they were looking into the recall last year(notice issued July 2015)
due to be booked in this week-hopefully will eventually get sorted without destruction of cars interior! :(
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jasonevans on January 27, 2016, 11:22:30 AM
Got it done this morning, and also the electric window switch drivers side.
Took just under 1.5 hours.  Good service from Brayley Honda St.Albans.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5876 on January 29, 2016, 03:05:24 PM
I've just bought a 58 plate jazz and not sure if anything like this has been done. Any ideas how to find out? Ring local Honda and give car details?

Many thanks

Ryan


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Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Eddie Honda on January 29, 2016, 05:57:46 PM
Ring you local dealer with the VIN or check the Honda website:

http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html (http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5876 on January 29, 2016, 07:38:12 PM
Just looked a it's due three. Two of which are airbags and one for window switch. Thanks for pointing this out.

Ryan
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: finn_mccool on February 04, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Had my airbag repair done on Tuesday.  Can't fault the service - they even washed and hoovered the Jazz!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on February 06, 2016, 07:01:54 PM
Another airbag recall announced and reported in Auto Express today affects the following Honda models:-

CR-V (2007-2011 MY)
CR-Z (2011-2015 MY)
Jazz (2009-2014 MY)
Insight (2010-2014 MY)

Other makes are affected and although a different company the problem I think is the same, if the airbag is set off in an accident it goes off too violently.

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on February 07, 2016, 07:12:21 PM
Article in Auto Express announcing more airbag recalls imminent.
Apparently it's the same problem as before where airbags inflate too violently if deployed in an accident but a different component manufacturer is involved.
Honda models affected:-

CR-V (2007-2011 MY)
CR-Z (2011-2015 MY)
Jazz (2009-2014 MY)
Insight (2010-2014 MY)

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: applicationcen on February 08, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
I must admit I am confused how to check?

Whats the procedure?

Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on February 08, 2016, 01:12:10 PM
It's probably too early to check whether your car is due but you can check on the DVLA or VOSA websites, not sure which.
If you and your car are associated with a Honda dealer they will get in touch with you.

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: applicationcen on February 08, 2016, 02:22:02 PM
Going in for an MOT at Hendy in Exeter, 23rd
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: davegreen55 on February 08, 2016, 03:39:42 PM
It should be possible to check for any recalls on the Honda website.http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html (http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Hobo on February 08, 2016, 04:32:33 PM
It should be possible to check for any recalls on the Honda website

Just put my VIN number in on that site comes up 'No Updates or Recalls'. ???
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on February 08, 2016, 04:41:16 PM
same here, no updates or recalls which is good as i dont want my car ripped to bits to fit 8 airbags hopefully it will be ok as mine is a facelift mk2
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on February 08, 2016, 04:47:03 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/honda-cars-britain-recalled-after-7318039 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/honda-cars-britain-recalled-after-7318039)

you would have thought they woud have changes suppliers after the last recall
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5251 on February 08, 2016, 05:51:36 PM
just called our dealer ,mentioned the issue they took our reg DE62 and straight away
was told the recall doesn't include your car its the mk1 we have been doing recalls for
not the mk2,i mentioned this isn't true, they will apparently call me tomorrow
i am going to take the auto express & mirror online recall notice to them to look at.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: longlegpete on February 08, 2016, 07:13:52 PM
The Honda website is up to date, i first heard this 3 days ago and entered both my 2009 Ex jazz's Vin numbers and both came up with a recall,  one of them is in Spain at the moment buts its back in UK for summer so i guess i will get it done then, we have only just had the other half's 2007 airbags done, we are lucky as the Honda dealer is only 4 minutes walk from our house!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: edam on February 08, 2016, 07:29:09 PM
Checked mine and no recalls.
My VIN starts SHHGG which I assume is Swindon
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: longlegpete on February 08, 2016, 10:24:46 PM
Yeah,  think your right, my Ex's are both early and made in Japan,  Vin starts JHM,, The SHH is UK made
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on February 09, 2016, 12:09:54 AM
thats good to know, hopefully the uk ones are ok and just the ones imported from japan are the ones with the faulty airbags
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5895 on February 09, 2016, 11:37:42 AM
Just put my 2009 EX vin number in on the Honda site and it says No updates or recalls.

The VIN starts JHM so is Japan built.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on February 09, 2016, 06:21:22 PM
All Honda owners please note that all affected cars will be notified by post as soon as possible.

They are currently posting 10000 letters a week, if every affected owner was notified at the same time then the Honda dealership would not be able to cope.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on February 09, 2016, 09:25:43 PM
so your saying every uk jazz between 2009 - 2014 has the faulty airbags and they are staggering the recall or just some of the uk jazz models between 2009-2014 ?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: longlegpete on February 09, 2016, 10:53:13 PM
Our 2007 jazz was around 6 months between receiving the letter and fitment of the airbags so i won't be holding my breath,  on the Honda web site it say contact your dealer to arrange fitment but as has been said they can't do them all at once
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on February 09, 2016, 10:56:53 PM
Our 2007 jazz was around 6 months between receiving the letter and fitment of the airbags so i won't be holding my breath,  on the Honda web site it say contact your dealer to arrange fitment but as has been said they can't do them all at once

did they damage your dash and a and b pillars getting them replaced?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on February 09, 2016, 11:17:40 PM
so your saying every uk jazz between 2009 - 2014 has the faulty airbags and they are staggering the recall or just some of the uk jazz models between 2009-2014 ?
All I am saying is that affected cars will have their owners notified, in due course.

There are several models affected covering several years.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp)

Contact Honda if in doubt.

Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on February 09, 2016, 11:21:30 PM
I received a letter back in August 2015 and nothing since, so I emailed Honda UK with my reg and VIN details and they replied to say that both airbags need changing and I will receive a letter in due course.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: TonyS on February 10, 2016, 09:42:53 AM
Received our letter from Honda in August 2015 also and then received another letter in January asking us to contact one of the nearest dealers for the recall work to be carried out.
Contacted our local dealer who confirmed that only the passenger side airbag was affected by the recall for our car which is a late (November registered) 2008 GE.
The airbag was replaced last week and took about an hour to complete.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: MaxFrames on February 10, 2016, 11:34:39 AM
Blimey. I just got "the letter". Looks like each Country may have its own database of affected vehicles, as mine was not included (by the skin of its teeth) in the one posted in the UK website you lads linked.
I'm cross about the wording, looks like it has been carefully drafted by a handful of skilled lawyers and it's clear that the danger is real or they wouldn't have explicitly stated that the recall campaign does not imply that Honda will take any responsibility beyond what the law mandates.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on February 10, 2016, 05:07:40 PM
Had my airbag repair done on Tuesday.  Can't fault the service - they even washed and hoovered the Jazz!

which ones did you have done and did they damage the dash or a & c pillar plastic?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: harry22673 on February 10, 2016, 08:09:09 PM
so your saying every uk jazz between 2009 - 2014 has the faulty airbags and they are staggering the recall or just some of the uk jazz models between 2009-2014 ?
Currently no
It seems as though its predominantly just those produced in Japan and imported over
Which coincidentally seem to be ex grades
But the staggering bit is right
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: longlegpete on February 11, 2016, 12:10:20 AM
Our 2007 jazz was around 6 months between receiving the letter and fitment of the airbags so i won't be holding my breath,  on the Honda web site it say contact your dealer to arrange fitment but as has been said they can't do them all at once

did they damage your dash and a and b pillars getting them replaced?

Dont think so but haven't looked, it's the other half's car so as long as it starts it's fine, not sexist just true! , i will have a look and let you know
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: RichardA on February 13, 2016, 03:09:13 PM
Had my driver and passenger airbag inflators changed earlier this month after booking it in just before Christmas. Car washed and hovered and the radio presets in FM1 were retuned (odd because I've got a few non-local stations saved).

Because the battery is disconnected you will need to reset the auto up/down function on the driver's electric window (see manual but in a nutshell: lower then raise the window and hold the switch for a few seconds). I also had to turn off the radio's default 'PI SEEK' function (see how to here (http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=6852.msg30218#msg30218)) as otherwise I get five seconds or so of silence whenever I switch to Radio 1.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: MaxFrames on February 13, 2016, 05:52:04 PM
I owe you a standing ovation for these two bits of information!
Believe it or not, I had the car since 2004 and I never could understand what was going on with both!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: RichardA on February 21, 2016, 06:49:24 PM
My first letter arrived in August and the second at the end of November/early December. I phoned my local dealer on Christmas Eve and was offered the first week in Febuary as the earliest avaliable date.

Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5251 on February 21, 2016, 07:17:36 PM
we have a japan built jazz our chassis number starts JHMGP and is apparantly not affected but we will see
i am going to carry on checking incase honda updates their database and ours appears on the list.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest6144 on May 29, 2016, 12:00:37 AM
Honda site can check via vin.. for any recalls on a car
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html (http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on May 29, 2016, 12:34:48 AM
still nothing for my 2011 facelift mk2 from march 2011 four days after the facelift came out so hopefully i will be ok
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on June 02, 2016, 05:07:28 PM
i just got my airbag letter today and i think they send it out to every single caras my car still has no recalls on their website and it is also just an introductory letter saying they are sourcing airbags and will contact me in due course

mine is a swindon mk2 facelift 11 plate 1.2 and the letter says there may be a defect in certain 2005 to 2015 jazz and other car models so that means EX and not S trim levels as that is what most people on here are having done and my dealer said they are already doing mk jazz airbags back in feb but mine is no recalls

has anyone else had their 1.2 s recalled yet or just ES and EX ?

and if i decide i dont want it done will they fail the mot or be mentioned on the mot? as it says in the letter that there is no risk of the drivers airbag may deploy and only in severe impact etc

as it is just the drivers air bag i will prob have it done, but not if it is the passenger or a and c pillar ones as i dont want the dash pulled out, it will never be the same and they will def break some stuff eg a/c or scratch it up

i also dont want to go in and have the drivers one done and then six months time the passenger one needs doing and then the others
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: RichardA on June 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
The airbag components will be the same for all trim levels.

The recall will not affect the MOT if it is not done as the MOT tester will have no way of checking if the work has been done and it wouldn't be applicable anyway.

Personally I would get the recall work done as it's safety related and wouldn't worry about the dealer damaging the interior, they've had plenty of practice by now.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: TonyS on June 02, 2016, 09:09:24 PM
Received a letter yesterday from Honda for a recall to the Drivers Airbag; Passenger Airbag was recalled a few months ago and remedial work carried out at local dealer.
The letter was an advisory notice and stated that another letter would be issued for the recall work to be done once there were sufficient parts with the dealers.
The issue with the Drivers Airbag is that it may be over pressurised and might cause injury to the occupants.
No indication in the letter of how long it will take to acquire sufficient stock of parts for the remedial works.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on June 02, 2016, 09:17:11 PM
yes that is the letter i got just for the drivers and wait for the next letter.

i would hate to do the drivers one and then months later they do the passenger one  what a pain.

and they still use this company for airbags that they own a big share in, and its from 2005 to 2015 so someone really screwed up

the way they worded it is that there are certain cars in certain models effected, not all cars will be effected and they say it will not just go off unless you have a severe crash

and when i check on the honda website it still states no updates or recalls and the dealer checked that in feb and said the same and they are doing mk2 work now
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest1372 on June 02, 2016, 11:05:16 PM
and they still use this company for airbags that they own a big share in, and its from 2005 to 2015 so someone really screwed up

the way they worded it is that there are certain cars in certain models effected, not all cars will be effected and they say it will not just go off unless you have a severe crash
Well there's only a certain amount of global capacity for airbag production I'd expect it to match new car volumes, so if you've got to replace 100million of them it's going to take a while to produce the stock. It's just as big an issue for Toyota, Nissan, GM & Ford. The car makers have to support Takata, because bankrupting/closing the firm will do themselves no favours financially or in the supply chain.

AutoExpress, 5 Nov, 2015: (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/93373/honda-recalls-up-to-329000-uk-cars-for-takata-airbag-fix) (Honda UK) A spokesman confirmed that just under 122,000 cars will be recalled for a fix to the driver's airbag, while 207,000 will require attention to the passenger airbag, although some overlap is expected so the overall number could be lower. (Jazz, Civic, Accord, Stream & CR-V)
 
BBC, 9 July 2015: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33457399) Honda, the number three carmaker in Japan, has been hardest hit with 24.5 million cars recalled
 
Reuters, Thu Jun 2, 2016: (http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-autos-takata-idUKKCN0YO11A) (US) NHTSA confirmed in April that about 85 million Takata airbag inflators eventually will have to be recalled and replaced unless automakers can prove they are safe. Federal officials have agreed to give Takata and automakers until December 2019 to either recall ammonium nitrate inflators, or prove they are safe. NHTSA is staggering recalls over time and directing replacement inflators first to states with extended high heat and humidity, linked to inflator failures.  ...  A U.S. Senate report said four automakers were continuing to sell some new vehicles with defective Takata airbag inflators that will eventually need to be recalled.  ....  Takata and other airbag suppliers lack the production capacity to quickly produce replacement parts, officials have said. ....  Michigan-based air bag maker Key Safety Systems and new Chinese parent Ningbo Joyson Electronic Corp are discussing a potential investment in Takata
 
As it's a problem caused by the ammonium nitrate propellant's prolonged exposure to high humidity priority has been given to age and region worldwide.

The only sign of anything after I had mine replaced several years ago now was they didn't put my stuff back in the glove box (they don't remove the dash). Better to have a car with newer airbags and no outstanding recalls when selling it. Only issue is finding something to do while they fit them, I watched a Honda BTCC season review video with one of the sales guys.
--
TG
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on June 02, 2016, 11:49:20 PM
thats good to hear that they dont remove the dash board. i think they must go in via the top glove box as it looks like it unscrews pretty easy and the airbag is behind which i hope is the way they do it

oh yes and how long did your airbag replacement take?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5079 on June 04, 2016, 11:20:55 AM
It seemed originally that the air bag replacement only affected the MK 1. Now it seems to have moved on to the MK2, I read with interest the above posts but when I checked the Honda 'recall' site nothing came up against my Vin number, any ideas as mine is due for service and MOT early next month. As it is a 'freebie service and MOT' I would like to have some ammo as almost certainly I will get the dunno mate!!!!! :-[ :-X
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: longlegpete on June 06, 2016, 11:47:11 PM
Went to Honda dealership today, haven't received any letters but on checking the Honda web site i need the passenger airbag replaced,  they booked it in for July, said would take about an hour.

Was listening to Radio5s wake up to money a few days ago and they were talking about Takata, apparently there share price has been  going up in the last few days after it was revealed a number of companies were interested in taking them over.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JohnAlways on June 08, 2016, 11:07:09 AM
Hi all
Had a letter from my dealer / Honda yesterday explaining there is a drivers airbag replacement required under a recall and they would contact me soon when the parts are available. It's to do with the gas overpressure business.
Jazz 2013 Mk II 1.2s + AC.   :) Be due a service in late August before 2,000 mile round trip so maybe that will fall in place with the recall notice.
Enjoy the sunshine those in the UK that have it.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Ozzie on June 16, 2016, 01:37:46 PM
Hi All,

Today I received a letter from Honda, basically saying that I will be receiving a letter about the airbag recall, and is my address correct and do I still own the car.

However as my car is a "working car" I phoned our local Honda dealer and they tell me that they won't have the parts to do the recall till September at the earliest, and that at the moment there is no recall flagged against my car. This in itself is not a great problem, however as its a driving instruction car sometimes the Examiners refuse to take cars on test if they are awaiting recall work. So I call the local test centre, and one of the Examiners checked up his line managers and basically tell me that the recall affects 12 different manufacturers, including most Hondas built between 2005-2015. The company that supplies the airbag deployment device that needs replacing is building a new factory to meet the demand, so its going to be a long job replacing all the airbags, and as such the cars are OK for test purposes.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: monkeydave on June 16, 2016, 06:14:50 PM
Hi All,

Today I received a letter from Honda, basically saying that I will be receiving a letter about the airbag recall, and is my address correct and do I still own the car.

However as my car is a "working car" I phoned our local Honda dealer and they tell me that they won't have the parts to do the recall till September at the earliest, and that at the moment there is no recall flagged against my car. This in itself is not a great problem, however as its a driving instruction car sometimes the Examiners refuse to take cars on test if they are awaiting recall work. So I call the local test centre, and one of the Examiners checked up his line managers and basically tell me that the recall affects 12 different manufacturers, including most Hondas built between 2005-2015. The company that supplies the airbag deployment device that needs replacing is building a new factory to meet the demand, so its going to be a long job replacing all the airbags, and as such the cars are OK for test purposes.


that is what i have a letter to tell me there is another letter comming but there is still nothing showing up on the website for my vin number for any recalls, i would go off the website and just dont worry with the letter.

my letter was for the drivers airbag and then i bet they call me in for the passenger one too.

has anyone had recalls for the a and c pillar curtain or side seat airbags? or are they different kind of airbags that are not effected?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5079 on June 17, 2016, 02:34:13 PM
'I received mine today. It does however have one crumb of comfort in that it states as of 4th May 2016 there have been no reported incidents in Northern Europe.
One can only assume that it is a covering backside job.
We await the next letter.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: DWF on June 17, 2016, 04:28:35 PM
I got my letter today, just 6 weeks after I traded in the car for a new Jazz, I'll phone the dealer and tell them.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: madasafish on June 19, 2016, 08:23:10 AM
My letter arrived last week..

Hey ho :   :P
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jazzdriver on June 21, 2016, 06:30:29 PM
I got a letter from Honda today about an airbag recall for my September 2014 1.4 Jazz  They said they will contact me again when they have the parts.

I would be good if it could be done when I have the service in late August.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: applicationcen on July 14, 2016, 09:48:53 AM
I have been broadly happy with Hendy in Exeter until my Safety Recall notice for Drivers Airbag letter came through.

I usually throw all Honda letters out without reading - as it is usually marketing bumf.
For some reason I opened this letter - might have been the 'IMPORTANT SAFETY RECALL' in red across the envelope - but no - I honestly only looked at the envelope after I started to type the post!

Any hoo - the reason I am cheesed with Hendy is that I called them a few months ago and asked the question  - Is my Jazz subject to faulty air bags? Their service guy said emphatically that the year of my car meant that I was not at risk.

So two lesson learned:-
1. Don't trust a dealer even if you think they are trustworthy
2. READ the stupid letters
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Eddie Honda on July 14, 2016, 11:02:14 AM
the reason I am cheesed with Hendy is that I called them a few months ago and asked the question  - Is my Jazz subject to faulty air bags? Their service guy said emphatically that the year of my car meant that I was not at risk.

Was "a few months ago" before or after Honda added your model year to the recall campaign?

I'm wondering if the answer given to you was "correct at the time" because this airbag lark has been extended in scope on numerous occasions.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jazzway on July 14, 2016, 12:29:59 PM
The last time i was at the Honda dealer was last April to pick up the mud guards i ordered. I then asked them about the airbag recall. They had checked my vin number after my order and said there was nothing for our car.
In the Netherland we can't check for recalls on the Honda website, i never get letters from Honda, also no marketing stuff. Once i sent an email to Honda Nederland to ask, but they replied i had to go to the Honda dealer to check. But i cannot check at the dealer every time, they have to inform me! I'm worried sometimes...
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Eddie Honda on July 14, 2016, 02:33:46 PM
In the Netherland we can't check for recalls on the Honda website

A page was briefly up on the Honda Ireland website about the recall, then it disappeared. There isn't an online checker on their website as far as I know. I have two  Jazzes, one imported from Northern Ireland and the other imported from England.

I eventually received letters from Universal Honda Ireland Ltd concerning the recall.

In the UK you can look up recalls on the Government website: http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp)

In The Nederlands go here: https://terugroepregister.rdw.nl/Pages/Terugroepregister.aspx (https://terugroepregister.rdw.nl/Pages/Terugroepregister.aspx)

 
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: applicationcen on July 15, 2016, 10:32:49 AM
So the update to day from a rather snooty Hendy person in Exeter saying that there is not enough parts and cancelling the appointment I made.

The letter is a clear safety recall letter, but the wording is slightly obscure. It says 'you do not need to do anything' until they contact you again. This is mentioned at the bottom of the page with the expectation you wade through all the legal jargon that is required in a formal notification process.

If I had written the letter I would have said 'please do not do anything now' until we contact you again with further instructions.
So my modified instructions with this type of communication is:-
Read the envelope closely
Read every word of the letter at least twice
Try and make sense of it
Then phone the buggers up and make a nuisance anyway!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jazzway on July 16, 2016, 02:19:54 PM
In the Netherland we can't check for recalls on the Honda website

A page was briefly up on the Honda Ireland website about the recall, then it disappeared. There isn't an online checker on their website as far as I know. I have two  Jazzes, one imported from Northern Ireland and the other imported from England.

I eventually received letters from Universal Honda Ireland Ltd concerning the recall.

In the UK you can look up recalls on the Government website: http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp (http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp)

In The Nederlands go here: https://terugroepregister.rdw.nl/Pages/Terugroepregister.aspx (https://terugroepregister.rdw.nl/Pages/Terugroepregister.aspx)
Thank you. I know the website in the Netherlands, but i can not check with the vin-number. I just have to wait for a letter to come... or not.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Eddie Honda on July 16, 2016, 02:32:39 PM
But looking at the details of the first recall in the search on the RDW site it says that you'll be contacted by letter.

"Wijze waarop u wordt geïnformeerd  Een brief"

If a manufacturer has to or decided to do a safety recall, they contact that country's central vehicle registration office and get the names and address of those registered owners affected. The only issue is with recalls of such massive scale, it takes some time* to get through everyone on the list.

I can't remember how long, but I think it may have been 2 or 3 months time delay, but providing your details/address are correct with the licencing authorities, you WILL get a letter eventually.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jazzway on July 17, 2016, 02:15:27 PM
...
I can't remember how long, but I think it may have been 2 or 3 months time delay, but providing your details/address are correct with the licencing authorities, you WILL get a letter eventually.
But there still is a chance that our car is not affected, or is it for sure ALL Jazz's need replacement?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest1372 on July 17, 2016, 03:32:08 PM
But there still is a chance that our car is not affected, or is it for sure ALL Jazz's need replacement?
Not necessarily all, e.g. just 3 UK Honda CR-V needed Takata airbag recall. 

UK Jazz 2002 >2009: 87k airbag recalls from 163k cars. 
But for 2009 > 2014 model years the recalls are for both Takata and Continental Automotive Systems airbag units.
--
TG

Source:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94298/honda-fiat-and-chrysler-recall-45million-vehicles-over-airbag-fault (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94298/honda-fiat-and-chrysler-recall-45million-vehicles-over-airbag-fault)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/93373/honda-recalls-up-to-329000-uk-cars-for-takata-airbag-fix (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/93373/honda-recalls-up-to-329000-uk-cars-for-takata-airbag-fix)
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=honda+jazz (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=honda+jazz)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jazzway on July 17, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
...
UK Jazz 2002 >2009: 87k airbag recalls from 163k cars. 
But for 2009 > 2014 model years the recalls are for both Takata and Continental Automotive Systems airbag units.
--
TG
So with a 2010 Jazz i have a double chance for a recall. ;)
I just wait as that's all i can do about it.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: EXT on August 04, 2016, 08:04:12 PM
took my jazz for SRS inflator replacement and notice they actually scratched the honda badge on the steering wheel. I was so upset and ask them how they can do so poor job. but they have no answer.
I did contacted honda head office and still waiting for their response ...
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: EXT on August 14, 2016, 11:26:56 AM
they responded via email to say that the scratches are hair thin and wear and tear,  . thanks for contacted Honda. DONE
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: EXT on August 27, 2016, 07:44:45 PM
Some pics what the mess they made


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Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: fatlad on September 17, 2016, 11:58:28 PM
according to my local Honda dealer (Gilders - Sheffield), Honda UK are still waiting for parts & are expecting some through around OCT-NOV time.

the service reception chap also said that Honda UK hadn't communicated with them yet as to what was happening/which cars are involved.


Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5079 on September 28, 2016, 11:45:22 AM
The whole debacle of the airbags seems to be degenerating into a farce. We have dealers who do not know what is going on, some owners have the prospect of two bags being replaced, my letter only states it is the drivers airbag that is affected. It states that in SOME  cases the drivers airbag inflator could produce excessive internal pressure if the airbag deploys in an accident. What is the inflator? and why would it rupture? do they mean the actual bag? Or is it the internals that could blow up in one's face?
It would be nice if Honda got it's act together and told us the whole story. ie is it or is it not dangerous?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: culzean on September 28, 2016, 06:50:49 PM
The inflator is the canister containing the 'explosive' charge that 'inflates' the airbag with when it is triggered by an electrical signal.  Apparently this is more likely to give problems in hot and humid climates, but give today's 'where there is blame there is a claim' climate they will be replacing airbags in Iceland and Antarctic as well as Brazil and Indonesia.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest1372 on September 28, 2016, 11:43:10 PM
is it or is it not dangerous?
I think you are more likely to be injured in the waiting room during the recall, than by a Takata airbag failure, but as it's a possible/forseeable/preventable event, they have to be replaced. 

It's hot & humid conditions that may have affected the chemical propellant where it's been mixed without a drying agent.  When the airbag is triggered this may cause an uneven production of gas resulting in bag inflation at a greater than designed rate or may cause possible fracture of the chemical propellant capsule which has resulted in shrapnel injuries in a handful of people worldwide (over nearly two decades).

As the injuries stem from an airbag deployment the best course of action is not to crash, or keep your car in the tropics for many years.
--
TG
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on September 29, 2016, 02:50:55 PM
Airbag deployment is extremely violent as neighbours of ours will testify having been recently involved in a collision.
Both said that they had difficulty breathing afterwards and the ambulance crew who attended the scene said that this was quite normal. Both required hospital treatment to return their breathing to normal and both are badly bruised although the seat belts would have contributed to this.
This amount of injury is with serviceable airbags that went off 'normally' so the extent of injury with over effective airbags could be more extreme but, importantly, could still save your life.
Honda are not the only manufacture affected and the urgency seems to be at the same level with all of them and the press aren't making a big thing of it either so hopefully we have nothing to worry about.

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5079 on September 29, 2016, 02:54:34 PM
My thanks to Culzean and TG.  Yes, ideally it is best to avoid an accident but I am amazed at how the standard of driving has deteriorated  over recent years. It is almost as if all the safety equipment fitted to cars is being relied on to cover bad driving. Harking back to  Volvo's first becoming popular, people were relying on the advertised fact  that the Volvo was a safe car. Again an upsurge  in accidents when seat belts became compulsory.
I decided to look up the thorny question of air bags on Google. It is surprising that there is little information  for the UK market but our cousins across the pond really have got the bit between the teeth. Their safety people have recommended that people don't use their car until it's fixed.
What did produce a smile were several articles on air bag theft, going back several years up to the present. I know the residents of the USA have a suing culture and they are prone to running into each other but it does beg the question, do they not have insurance to cover collisions? Bit of egg on face if the nicked air bag is one of the dodgy ones.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on September 29, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
I am amazed at how the standard of driving has deteriorated  over recent years.

Drivers seem very reluctant to signal at all at roundabouts leaving their intentions as guesswork.
Now that drivers are being asked to give cyclists more room the drivers are doing so but at the same completely ignoring traffic coming the other way, they just pull out and look all shocked when they realise that they are heading straight at a car coming the other way.

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: culzean on September 29, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
I am amazed at how the standard of driving has deteriorated  over recent years.

Drivers seem very reluctant to signal at all at roundabouts leaving their intentions as guesswork.
Now that drivers are being asked to give cyclists more room the drivers are doing so but at the same completely ignoring traffic coming the other way, they just pull out and look all shocked when they realise that they are heading straight at a car coming the other way.

Vic.

I used to give full signals at roundabouts, signalling both that I was going round with RH indicator and when I was leaving with LH one, you would not believe the number of times people came on to roundabout in front of me, very close - now I don't signal while going round, only just before exiting and I don't get cut up now.

Worst bicycle riders are ones in flashy lycra who ride side by side with each other and won't pull over even though only doing 10mph up hills.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest6316 on September 30, 2016, 07:07:57 AM
Has this post drifted on to something new I thought it was about Honda recall??
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: culzean on September 30, 2016, 08:29:16 AM
The airbag originated in USA because people were not using seatbelts fitted to vehicles (either too stubborn or too lazy) a lot of American cars were also fitted with automatic seatbelts that tracked around the door frame. The airbag is still labelled SRS (supplementary restraint system) as it was designed to supplement / replace seatbelt in an accident - an automatic device to save people from their own stupidity.  It is sobering to see how many people have been seriously injured or killed by perfectly normal airbag deployments who would have survived otherwise,  a lot of women sit too close to steering wheel and have had chest crushed or neck broken as a result - steering wheel airbag sizes were reduced to try to fix this - Just goes to show there is no easy answer.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JazzyB on September 30, 2016, 08:50:57 AM
How many people have you seen especially woman in front passenger car seats with their feet resting on the dashboard, most cars these days have passenger side airbags and if they went off with their feet on the dash well I think they will be seeing your feet close up for a start...............
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: fatlad on November 04, 2016, 07:01:41 PM
just received my 3rd letter....

my car is being recalled but its being held up by lack of parts into the country & Honda will be in touch when stock arrives.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Hobo on February 04, 2017, 06:52:11 PM
My car is booked in at my local dealer on the 20th of this month for the airbag recall, I am informed that the necessary parts are now available and are apparently in stock.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on February 04, 2017, 07:14:23 PM
I am booked in also after receiving mail reference the recall.
I jumped the gun a bit as the dealer I use was in the process of sending out advice and calling for bookings.
Two hours quoted so I'll get a lift into town and have a coffee and read a paper.

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Ozzie on February 04, 2017, 09:41:18 PM
I booked my Jazz in for a service and the dealer ran a check and said it was due the airbag recall, and ordered the part, and confirmed it will be done at the same time as the service.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jazzster on February 05, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Took mine for service on friday, saw the recall stamp on service paper work, asked about it they just said they had not got parts yet.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5079 on March 12, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
How is it some are dependent on HONDA letting us know and other dealers can order the part as in Ozzie and Hobo's case.
May I ask who Hobo's dealer is as I believe he lives in the same part of the world as I.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: marymck on May 07, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
I had front passenger and driver airbags replaced in the summer of 2015, as part of a recall.  Then in February this year (2017) I had to take my car for a diagnostic (engine warning light ... long, sad and continuing saga).  I went to Honda Balmer Lawn, Brockenhurst, as when the engine warning light came on I happened to be visiting my mum who lives nearby.

Balmer Lawn were great.  They not only diagnosed the engine light issue (all down to a catalytic converter that Halfords had installed two months earlier).  They also told me that my driver airbag had been recalled ... again!  So a recall on a recall!!  They didn't have the part to do a replacement there and then, but I booked in for my next trip to mum's and it's all done and dusted now.

Funny thing was, when I telephoned Honda's helpline (in Budapest!!) they told me the nearest Honda dealer from my home in South East London was in Hendon! 
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on May 07, 2017, 07:58:01 PM
I am currently waiting on my local dealer getting the parts in for my recall. I got the address of my local dealer from the Honda UK website. (I worked for the Honda dealer in my home town, but they gave up the franchise since that time)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Garyman on June 08, 2017, 09:48:26 AM
So my air bag light came on suddenly a few weeks ago but disappeared the following day so didn't do anything about it.

However, the air bag light came on again 2 days ago and still on.

I've plugged in one of those OBDC whatyoucallit readers in and it didn't bring up any fault code.

I guess a trip to the local dealer will be on the cards unless anyone else had experience similar?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: madasafish on June 08, 2017, 01:21:45 PM
Had mine replaced as part of the recall yesterday. Holdcroft Honda (Stoke on Trent) made it a quick and painless job: car dropped off at 1pm, ready just after 3pm. Excellent service - as usual.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Garyman on June 09, 2017, 09:37:59 AM
Well the airbag light has turned itself off this morning after being on the last few days.

Wonder how long it will be before it comes back on ?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest1372 on June 09, 2017, 03:19:11 PM
However, the air bag light came on again 2 days ago and still on.  I've plugged in one of those OBDC whatyoucallit readers in and it didn't bring up any fault code.
Just wondering if your seats may be the cause.  The standard passenger seat has an occupancy sensor, plus trigger wires for the side airbag where fitted.  Not sure if your connections may have picked up some stray issue or if you had the feature de-coded when the seats were installed?

Although an OBD-II socket has many pins, very few of them are used.  Unfortunately as you have found there are two separate diagnostics communications circuits, both are exposed on the socket but on different pins.  The generic code readers can talk/listen to the mandatory communications but the other systems SRS, ABS, EPS, CC, ECU rewrite, security, service, mileage etc. are on the manufacturer specific DLC bus.  This can be read and modified with Honda HDS / HIM system or ££££ garage all-in-one systems.

HDS HIM clones are around £100 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=honda+hds+him) although care must be taken with software & OS versions, COM port mappings etc.  Allscanner is for Toyota & Honda but is more expensive.  Most garages should be able to diagnose the issue for you although Honda may charge a fee.

Lots of good SRS info on http://www.hondafitjazz.com/manual/ (http://www.hondafitjazz.com/manual/)
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TG
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Garyman on June 09, 2017, 03:52:24 PM

Just wondering if your seats may be the cause.  The standard passenger seat has an occupancy sensor, plus trigger wires for the side airbag where fitted.  Not sure if your connections may have picked up some stray issue or if you had the feature de-coded when the seats were installed?

Thank you for your input TG.

I've not had any problems since I installed my Recaro seats into my Jazz.

I specifically bought a resistor kit from Capital Seating so it doesn't throw the SRS light on, as I know plenty of people (on other Honda forums) installing aftermarket seats and just leaving their SRS dash light constantly on (that would annoy the heck out of me! )

Like I said, I've not had any problems for the last +5yrs or whatever its been since I had the recaros installed- I'd would had thought if there was a problem, it would had come to light (no punt intended  ;D) by now?

Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Garyman on June 12, 2017, 03:34:12 PM
SRS light came back on, and off twice over the weekend- very random now
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest1372 on June 12, 2017, 06:12:35 PM
Get under the seats and unplug / re-plug those terminators - worth a shot, could be a dodgy connection.
--
TG
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Garyman on June 13, 2017, 12:43:03 PM
Get under the seats and unplug / re-plug those terminators - worth a shot, could be a dodgy connection.
--
TG

Good call- will give this a shot later tonight.

Still coming on and off ad hoc now  :(
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on July 24, 2017, 05:39:19 PM
I see on the news, today, that in Australia manufacturers are replacing faulty Takata air bags with ..... faulty Takata air bags! Toyota, Mazda, Lexus, BMW and Subaru all admitted to replacing the faulty airbags with identical devices. Their rational is that the air bags deteriorate with age, and by fitting new ones they are relatively safe!! Other manufacturers have refused to comment.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest7027 on July 25, 2017, 11:47:42 AM
I heard about this recall on the news so I checked my VIN on the Honda recall website (URL different for each country).

It flagged up my vehicle was due for recall due to Takata airbag so I rang my local dealer who booked it in and they replaced the parts free of charge.

I have since tried the same VIN search on the recall website and my car seems to have been cleared indicating that the local dealer has updated to the system and recall now cleared menaing car is all OK now.

Seemed quite a simple and straight forward process for me - my car was repaired within 2 weeks on my initial contact.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jazzster on July 25, 2017, 05:55:26 PM
mine was done yesterday after having 3 letters in last year or more with last one saying contact dealer,  took more than 3 weeks to get it in, then nearlly 5 hours 45 mins to get it done 5 before they started, but thats another story.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on July 25, 2017, 06:11:01 PM
I phoned Western Honda, in Dunfermline, today. I have been waiting since April for the six weeks to pass while they get the necessary parts in (airbags and window switches). Girl said she would investigate and phone me back. Still waiting!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on July 26, 2017, 04:31:35 PM
Still no reply from Western Honda, Dunfermline, as yet. However I did receive a letter from Honda UK, today, telling me to contact my nearest dealer for a recall regarding window switches. No mention of the airbags! Might just drop them a letter in reply!!
If I haven't heard from Western Honda by the weekend I will phone again on Monday.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on July 27, 2017, 01:34:57 PM
Nippy letter went in the post to their Customer Relations Manager, Gemma Corbett, this morning.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: fatlad on August 07, 2017, 09:46:51 PM
after receiving 3 letters from Honda ( 2 to tell me about the recall & 3rd to confirm mine was affected)had my drivers done on Saturday...

that's both (passengers & drivers) been replaced within 18 months...

took just over an hour so not bad .....

apparently the initial wait was for stock into the UK but now they are replacing them Adhoc...


Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on August 07, 2017, 09:50:27 PM
I've still heard nothing. One thing's for certain. I'll never buy a new Honda, if this is an example of their customer care.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: jazzway on August 09, 2017, 03:19:49 AM
I've still heard nothing. One thing's for certain. I'll never buy a new Honda, if this is an example of their customer care.
Soichiro Honda would turn in his grave by this Honda customer care!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on August 21, 2017, 09:33:42 AM
Received an email from Honda saying car is due work and a link for sending a contact mail to book it. So perhaps something is finally happening. I'll keep you all informed one way or other.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on August 21, 2017, 02:31:13 PM
Just received an email back from Western Honda, in Dunfermline, to say my car is to go in on Monday morning for the Airbag and Electric window switch recall. Only fly in the ointment is I have to leave it and pick it up later in the day.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on August 22, 2017, 12:19:11 PM
Got another email, from Becky at Honda, who has been very helpful. I had asked if work could be done while I waited, and she arranged a while you wait appointment. However because it was two recall items, and as they give car a health check and a wash and vacuum, it takes about two and a half hours. If I wished to wait until the Wednesday they could give me a courtesy car for the day. As it is recall work there is no insurance surcharge. Just bring my driving licence.
So that's it. All arranged for the Wednesday. Well done Western Honda, Dunfermline.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest5079 on August 22, 2017, 03:10:44 PM
Well Jocko,
It seems you have a decent Honda dealer.
I had to chase the dealer, according to Honda there was no recall on my car although a couple of weeks prior there was. When I asked the dealer WHY was there the no recall although it had NOT been done. Reply, we have spoken to Honda about this!!!!!!!!!!! What happened to the letters form Honda you need do nothing you will be contacted.
As I say, you obviously have a decent dealer.
It must be Scotland.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on August 22, 2017, 04:10:20 PM
I hope they give me a CVT Jazz. May shift, or confirm, my suspicions about CVT gearboxes.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on August 22, 2017, 04:17:39 PM
I hope they give me a CVT Jazz. May shift, or confirm, my suspicions about CVT gearboxes.

Jocko, what are your suspicions exactly?

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on August 22, 2017, 05:18:29 PM
Jocko, what are your suspicions exactly?
Basically, that I wouldn't have one in a gift. I have never driven one or been in a car with one, but from what I have read and seen on the net, it is not something I'd like on a car. Fine for a milling machine.
For me a hydraulic automatic transmission with torque converter, Borg Warner style, is the way to go.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: peteo48 on August 22, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
On another thread I mentioned a trip, as a passenger, I had taken in a CVT Jazz. In short they seem well suited to driving in an urban setting but I felt it struggled elsewhere and was a bit whiny. I am pretty sure I wouldn't have one although I guess you need to drive it rather than just being a passenger.

I notice Toyota are having a big advertising campaign for the latest Yaris Hybrid (also CVT) and it seems very heavily slanted towards urban driving.

More than ever, and I guess it's a good thing, we have cars aimed at specific situations and markets. The choice out there is better than ever.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest7027 on March 13, 2018, 08:22:07 AM
As an update on this - I had both of my Jazz's airbag inflators replaced 12 months ago by Honda under the Takata recall.

Had another letter early last week for another airbag inflator recall for the passenger side air bags now on both Jazz's again.

Had work completed yesterday on both cars so both have had drivers and passenger airbag inflators replaced now.

I suspect there may be more recalls to come on this for the side air bag inflators... as it seems the works are somewhat phased e.g. phase 1 being drivers airbag, phase 2 passengers and maybe suspected phase 3 of sides...

Just thought I would share my 2 cents :)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: TopDown on April 22, 2019, 10:25:15 PM
Well my local dealer keeps sending out letters saying my Jazz is due airbag or airbag igniter replacements but they still don't have any!

How long am I supposed to wait when others on here seem to be getting theirs done?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: milkfloat on May 07, 2019, 10:25:42 AM
I had been waiting for 3 months, and got them replaced at the end of April. I believe Honda UK has plentiful supply now.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Mo_1986 on September 13, 2019, 12:21:08 PM
I've not received anything yet for my wifes Jazz, should I call up Honda?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Mo_1986 on September 13, 2019, 12:24:50 PM
This is what I got from BMW today as my car has an outstanding recall.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on September 13, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
My Honda dealer gave me a brand new Jazz SE, with less than 200 miles on the clock, when my 2006 Jazz went in.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: take5 on November 16, 2019, 07:15:07 PM
My local Honda dealer has ordered the relevant part ( passenger airbag recall ) stating that it will be 3 to 4 wks to obtain -  they will then contact me to arrange to fit. They said it shouldn't take more than an hour !
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: TopDown on January 23, 2020, 10:26:04 AM
FINALLY ..... an appointment to correct the passenger airbag inflator.

Not even got there and not too impressed. I can leave the car all day, or wait while the work is done.

If all day a loan car 'could be made available' if I was to pay them for a day's insurance at £7.50, or added their car to my comprehensive insurance for the day. Is that the norm nowadays?

Asked about other airbag recalls - drivers and or side airbags - but they sidestepped that one.

Anyway, at last it's here. Anything I should be aware of as a result of the work - potential damage to trim, etc?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on January 23, 2020, 10:34:26 AM
On both occasions I was given a car with nothing to pay. Think it depends on the dealer. Just check the trim is where it should be and everything electric still works, especially your infotainment system.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: TopDown on January 23, 2020, 10:48:24 AM
Thank you.

Having looked up recalls maybe the drivers airbag is a problem too?

Mine's a 2012 EX.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: militarymick on February 23, 2020, 04:17:54 PM
Has anyone actually had this replacement done yet, I'm a bit worried about them disturbing the dash and creating rattles and other problems..?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: guest4871 on February 23, 2020, 05:21:19 PM
Both done without any problem.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: JimSh on February 23, 2020, 05:52:24 PM
Has anyone actually had this replacement done yet, I'm a bit worried about them disturbing the dash and creating rattles and other problems..?

Both sides done - No problems.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on February 23, 2020, 06:32:28 PM
Same here.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: hemming on February 23, 2020, 08:45:51 PM
Ditto!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: TopDown on February 25, 2020, 03:07:46 PM
Bought my EX in Aug 2016 at 4 yrs old. It had an outstanding recall then. It's only taken Honda 3yrs 6 months from then to finally take it in for what was now TWO recalls.

Like others there was the fear of the unknown - will they break something, misfit interior panels, upset the radio, the one touch auto windows, etc.

The only things I noticed on collection were:

1) That it only took half the time they said - est. 2.5-3hrs. Got a phone call after 1.5hrs.
2) The car was cleaner than when I took it in.
3) MY immense relief that it's finally been done.

Everything else worked as it did before I took it in. Nothing for me to reset, reprogramme or retune.

Only three things let them dowm:

1) The inordinate time it took to get round to it.
2) The failure to offer a courtesy car - a missed opportunity to get me to at least TRY a Mk4.
3) The inordinate time it took to get round to it.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: Jocko on February 25, 2020, 03:53:55 PM
Mine was done in 2017 and I got two courtesy cars. The Jazz had less than 350 miles on it.

(https://i.imgur.com/olW92tb.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/i135saJ.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: VicW on February 25, 2020, 06:47:46 PM
It probably already says this in this post, there have been five recalls that I am aware of on the Jazz. They are, two for the airbags,driver and passenger; two for the drivers door window control unit; and one for a wiring problem concerning the headlights inside the area behind the steering wheel.
All mine were done promptly and with the minimum disturbance to myself.

Vic.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall
Post by: harry22673 on April 11, 2020, 11:30:53 PM
Had my passenger airbag recall done about a month ago and it came out with the lights for the recirculation buttons not working
I drove it when it was dark trying to work out what was different because something felt strange but it then hit me I couldn't see what they were for
They randomly came back on a couple of weeks ago

The dealership also tried charging for a key battery without checking with me as the alarm was apparently going off