Thanks for info batman, however the clunking noise is the gearbox changing down into 1st gear with the clutch actuated at the wrong rpm ie it is too high.
All thes problems are with a new car and these problems have been present for nearly 2 years. An independant car expert who was appointed by the legal company to fix the clutch and gearchange problems under warranty agreed with my diagnosis that the idle speed needed to be looked at and was probably a software problem as the honda diagnostic showed no faults with sensors or other monitored items.
Real problem here is the appallingly bad level of service from the honda dealerships here otherwise I would have them solve the problem.