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If your Jazz suffers from CVT judder, please tells us what year the car was registered

2002
11 (6%)
2003
35 (19%)
2004
25 (13.6%)
2005
32 (17.4%)
2006
35 (19%)
2007
21 (11.4%)
2008
25 (13.6%)

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Eddie Honda

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2014, 08:19:31 AM »
Interesting to read the various figures for the parts (esp. most recent). I've just got one, and I'll see how the flush goes first, but as it's out of warranty (34k, 8yo), I'll be pulling the box out myself when the starter clutch needs doing.

In RoI (where the VAT is 23%), local dealer sold me 2x4L of CVT-R for 100 EUR.

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2014, 08:46:15 PM »
Goodf info Brian. Parts were less than expected I have seen a Honda dealer asking about £215 on ebay. never had mpg that good I must have a heavy right foot ;-)

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2014, 10:29:06 PM »
Hi. The fuel consumption with the wife on board has dropped to a more realistic 48mpg. I start my short commute to work next week, at just over 3 miles each way, so that will be a true test of consumption.

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #108 on: May 02, 2014, 12:28:34 AM »
Well, the 3 mile each way is giving me about 33mpg. That's using shell high octane fuel.. I need a few tanks through before I clean things up a bit. I will post the figure's when it's stabilised. 

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #109 on: May 02, 2014, 04:20:51 PM »
The 33 mpg sounds about right for the short journeys I tend to make now. I do too many 2/3 mile round trips so that is the worst scenario for mpg. :(

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #110 on: May 11, 2014, 05:48:31 PM »
Hi all

I have 2005 1.4 sport CVT which is redeveloping judder at 66000 miles after EGR Oct 2007 (32000 miles), double oil flush August 2008 (38000 miles) & new Start Clutch May 2010 (50000 miles).
Regularly serviced but not main dealer.
Question 1.
As only 15000 miles since new start clutch - does anyone know if I should receive a further no cost replacement?
Question 2.
Would the new start clutch fitted in 2010 have been the new modified type now fitted.
Thanks
Roger

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #111 on: August 06, 2014, 10:13:49 PM »
DrShockr  ,brilliant post thanks ,have just bought a 05 jazz auto for my daughter ,done 50k it has the judder ,although i didn't notice it on the test drive and i was looking out for it !!, i asked her how its was going about a week after shed been driving it and she mention the judder ,i was mortified lol
im going to try the guide that you posted and hope that fixes it . one question though theres a post that says you have to get the start clutch re-calibrated afterwards is that correct ? cheers Fred

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #112 on: September 13, 2014, 02:09:21 AM »
I had the gear box flushed time after time under warranty. They seemed to not want to do it for me.  Then finally they agreed to replace the clutch plate thingy inside the CVT gearbox.  After a few thousand miles the judder has completely gone.

I think I will replace the fluid every 2 years to totally be on the safe side.  And I will also only use the new and updated Honda fluid for this.

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #113 on: September 13, 2014, 05:57:33 PM »
i did the gearbox flush as directed by dr shocker and the judder went straight away , wasn't sure whether to do the stall test so i did one only in drive and one in reverse just to be on the safe side , fingers crossed it stays OK !!!!

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #114 on: November 12, 2014, 07:08:44 PM »
I drive a 2004 Jazz Sport with CVT bought with 1,600miles on clock from local Honda main dealer. After a few thousand miles the judder started. Took it back to the dealer who did an oil change which solved the problem but only for approx. 2,000-3,000 miles. Back to dealer who fitted a new starter clutch (had taken out an extended warranty thank goodness). Ok until vehicle was approx. 8yrs old and judder started again. Main dealer did an oil change (£100+) but suggested if not sorted would need a new starter clutch again - at mega cost to me as out of warranty. Just over 1yr and slight judder started again. Decided to live with it for as long as possible but eventually drove me mad. Asked for a quote for a further flush/change at main dealer!!!!MEGA COST!  Found an independent garage (with Honda trained staff) who did a flush and change at less than previously charged by dealer. BRILLIANT - judder gone. This lasted until recently (104,000 on clock) and judder started to return. Tempted to get rid except car is brilliant in all other ways. Looked on internet and found an advert for XADO CVT oil treatment. In desperation decided to give it a try for £24.30 inc. After a couple of days a syringe of treatment arrived - bit like thick toothpaste - and put in CVT box thinking I had probably been 'done'. Amazing - within 50 miles judder was virtually gone and continued to improve. 6,000+ miles later and drives great, smooth and relaxing can leave in drive most of time even for 1:4 hills MPG has improved (54-56mpg on a steady run) probably due to smooth action of CVT. Look up XADO.CO.UK.   

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #115 on: August 01, 2015, 08:37:42 PM »
We have a 2008 1.4 SE CVT 52k miles and the judder has just started to appear.

So went to the local Honda dealer this week, and it is going in for a CVT oil change and maybe a flush at the same time depending upon what they find.

So having read this wonderful thread, is there any benefit to be gained by performing my own stall test the day before the car goes in - with a view to depositing the starter clutch gunk into the existing fluid - or is that a bad idea?

The VIN has GE3 in it (characters 4, 5 and 6). I have seen references to GD models.  So guessing, would a GE Jazz be a European Jazz and a GD be for another part of the world?

Other info - the car was bought nearly new (3k miles) ex-demo 3 months old (so had Honda UK as the first owner) and had a Honda tow bar (actually a Westfalia tow bar) fitted when we bought the car - we tow a small sailing dinghy.  The vehicle has always been serviced at a Honda dealer.  It has also had a new battery - supplied by Honda, changed by me (with reference to the handbook and workshop manual).

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #116 on: September 29, 2015, 04:00:51 PM »
 hi all,new to the club,just to say thanks to you all for the load of information i have read about to day,confirmed the air bag recall with my local dealer & now know if i get juddering with my auto to change trans. fluid & which fluid to use.thanks all. :)

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #117 on: February 20, 2016, 02:40:52 PM »
All but the very last cars that sneaked onto a 09-plate due to the mk1/mk2 sales overlap will now be out of this extended warranty, but there is no harm in asking if your Jazz CVT - of any age - is suffering from this problem.

If Honda have fixed the CVT problem free of charge or contributed to the cost Jazz CVTs over seven years old please let us know.

And has this problem ever reoccurred on a car previously fixed by Honda? Did they fix it again f.o.c or contributed to the cost?

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #118 on: May 07, 2016, 01:38:02 PM »
Just thought I would post my experience re: judder upon acceleration on Honda Jazz. I just bought a second hand Jazz 04 plate automatic with 138k miles. Found out that the car would judder for a couple seconds upon moving from a stationary position (or after slowing down) and also hesitant around 2500 revs upon accelerating. After a few days of driving, the car sputtered to a stop after performing a kangaroo dance when I tried to accelerate after turning left at a roundabout. I was able to start the car up again but the engine management light came on but was running very rough. I limped to a local garage to get a diagnostic test done resulting in problem with crank sensor. l got them to replace the crank sensor and also to change the engine oil, filters and spark plugs.

This seemed to have solved the problem with the hesitancy around 2500 revs and it was running a lot smoother but I was still getting the judder upon acceleration. Upon stumbling across this forum I realised that I had the dreaded Honda Jazz Auto CVT judder. Cheapest quote for a full CVT oil flush and replace was £90 from Phoenix Close Honda Specialists in Heywood (which is not a bad price as they said they would flush it twice).

Was going to book it in but stumbled across this thread and noteably Ed the Jazz post re: XADO X120 treatment. Thought I give it a shot as it was  a small risk to take. Cheapest I found was £17 on fleabay. After receiving it, I injected the treatment from its syringe which looked like blue toothpaste. I took the car out for a spin and didn't notice any difference. I took it for a second run an hour later and within 20 miles the judder had disappeared! 

It now feels like a different car and it feels great to be driving 'normally' again without passengers asking why the car is shaking everytime I drive off at the lights. So there you have it, I would certainly suggest giving XADO X120 a go if you have a judder problem with your Honda Jazz especially if you have an old high mileage one like mine and don't want to spend a lot on it. Don't know how it works but it sure seems like some magic blue paste I got for £17. I hope this helps other Honda Jazz owners who may stumble across this problem for a cheaper fix.

Google is your friend so google away for more information. P.S. I also stumbled across a product called Oil Extreme which appeared to solve the judder but the product is more expensive and is shipped from the US.

Happy judder free driving  :)

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #119 on: June 06, 2016, 05:20:28 PM »
That additive you put in recently..... is the car still behaving as its should. I bought our jazz around six moths ago and the gearbox oil 'was changed'. I'm debating whether to get it changed and out the stuff you used or change the oil and see how it goes?

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