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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by ColinB on Today at 09:24:46 AM »
The problem is that you are not allowed to touch the screen on the phone for any reason while you are on the road.

Surely if that were true it would also be illegal to use the touch-screen built into the car ?

In terms of distraction whilst driving, operating the car's screen is no better or worse than operating the screen of a stand-alone satnav or phone being used as a satnav (provided of course the stand-alone device is mounted in a cradle and doesn't obstruct the driver's vision). Some people might say the built-in screen is more distracting because of it's insensitivity. I'm not advocating setting routes etc whilst driving, you should always stop to do anything complicated like that, but simply touching the device (eg to mute/unmute) should not be a problem.

I know that is an official government page but that is not what some Chief Constables are saying, or the AA for that matter.
Can you provide links or references to the alleged statements please so we can see what has actually been said ?
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 09:21:37 AM »
It has nothing to do with Chief Constables or the AA. The CPS would not prosecute a driver for operating a mobile phone in a cradle provided the driver wasn't distracted by texting or trawling the internet.
Personally, I think using a hands free mobile is just as distracting as holding on to your phone and I would never consider doing it. I also think that setting a sat nav when driving should be illegal as well. It is certainly frowned upon and the overhead traffic signs, here in Scotland, regularly tell you not to do it.
If I need to make a phone call or adjust my sat nav I find a suitable safe place to stop and do so there. And when I do I always switch off and remove the keys. It is illegal to use a handheld mobile phone, even if safely parked, it the car engine is running. Even if you are in a car park, if the public has access, it is an offence. As Michael Caine would say, "Not a lot of people know that".
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Sounds like a plan. And certainly a possible diagnosis.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by ColinS on Today at 08:59:50 AM »
I know that is an official government page but that is not what some Chief Constables are saying, or the AA for that matter.  Good luck in court.
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If Climate Control is selected and you try to change something except the temperature Auto Climate Control will be deselected. I you deselect Auto Climate Control can you change things then ?

Vic.

Hi Vic
I normally just have it on auto rather than full auto, but no I still can't change anything.

Something I have noticed though, which I think could be the problem.
There are two vents on top of the centre console, but only one of them has the part inside which allows you to point the air in a certain direction, the other one is empty inside, so maybe the part has popped out and dropped inside and it is causing a jam in the system meaning the ducts cannot open and close to redirect the air.
So probably on Thursday, when I have a bit of time, I will remove the radio and try and get to the inside of the vent and see if that fixes it :).
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by andruec on Today at 08:49:12 AM »
Do you mean these updates?

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/navi-updates.html

Not those, they are older systems and accessory navigation units.

You want to visit www.garmin.com/honda to update your 2015- Jazz Navi. Annual updates free for 5 years from registration
Five years free updates isn't bad. Can a subsequent purchaser of a vehicle register or is the first owner the only one that gets free updates? But at least it wouldn't put me off buying a Honda if the only one I wanted came with sat nav. But I'd still rather source my own solution.
The problem is that you are not allowed to touch the screen on the phone for any reason while you are on the road.  So you need to set your route before you start and any changes or responces could only be made if you park up.  A couple of 200 fines, crashes and points will easily pay for the built in unit.
That's not true. It's only illegal to hold it. As long as the phone is anchored you are allowed to touch it.

https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law

and

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q955.htm

"Pushing buttons/touching a phone while it's in a cradle or on the steering wheel or handlebars of a motorbike for example is not covered by the above offence, provided you don't hold the phone. Therefore, in our opinion, if the device can allow for hands-free calls, such as when using Apple's Siri voice command system or using a car's compatible systems, it would be legal but inadvisable to use whilst driving. However, we would emphasise that ultimately this would be a matter for a court to decide."

Basically it's not being a smartphone that makes it illegal. It's holding it your hands that does. A smartphone in a cradle is therefore exactly as legal (or illegal if abused) as a built-in sat nav.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by ColinS on Today at 08:37:02 AM »
Do you mean these updates?

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/navi-updates.html

Not those, they are older systems and accessory navigation units.

You want to visit www.garmin.com/honda to update your 2015- Jazz Navi. Annual updates free for 5 years from registration
Five years free updates isn't bad. Can a subsequent purchaser of a vehicle register or is the first owner the only one that gets free updates? But at least it wouldn't put me off buying a Honda if the only one I wanted came with sat nav. But I'd still rather source my own solution.
The problem is that you are not allowed to touch the screen on the phone for any reason while you are on the road.  So you need to set your route before you start and any changes or responces could only be made if you park up.  A couple of 200 fines, crashes and points will easily pay for the built in unit.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by andruec on Today at 08:21:23 AM »
Do you mean these updates?

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/navi-updates.html

Not those, they are older systems and accessory navigation units.

You want to visit www.garmin.com/honda to update your 2015- Jazz Navi. Annual updates free for 5 years from registration
Five years free updates isn't bad. Can a subsequent purchaser of a vehicle register or is the first owner the only one that gets free updates? But at least it wouldn't put me off buying a Honda if the only one I wanted came with sat nav. But I'd still rather source my own solution.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by Steve_M on Today at 07:06:58 AM »
Do you mean these updates?

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/navi-updates.html

Not those, they are older systems and accessory navigation units.

You want to visit www.garmin.com/honda to update your 2015- Jazz Navi. Annual updates free for 5 years from registration
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: bluetooth connectivity
« Last post by andruec on August 13, 2018, 10:46:03 PM »
Do you mean these updates?

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/navi-updates.html
Ah, it's provided by Garmin. That ought to ensure map updates for a few years and their stuff is usually bug free if sometimes poorly designed. Still too expensive for me though, considering you can get it for free on a smartphone.
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