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Title: Higher than average mileage at present.
Post by: Jocko on April 22, 2021, 02:12:03 PM
At the moment I am doing 600 miles a week, in my tired old Jazz. If this continues much longer I will have to up my mileage with my insurer. I have a hole developing in my backbox, but because of circumstance, I cannot arrange to get it repaired. Hope I can replace it before it decides to drop off on the motorway!
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Post by: Kremmen on April 22, 2021, 03:16:39 PM
I didn't do much more than that for the whole of 2019 !

My CTEK got more use than my fuel flap.
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Post by: Derkie54 on April 22, 2021, 05:02:39 PM
My Wheelie Bins been out more than I have in the Jazz  :)
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Post by: E27006 on April 22, 2021, 05:32:52 PM
At the moment I am doing 600 miles a week, in my tired old Jazz. If this continues much longer I will have to up my mileage with my insurer. I have a hole developing in my backbox, but because of circumstance, I cannot arrange to get it repaired. Hope I can replace it before it decides to drop off on the motorway!

Buy a backbox from  Ebay and fit it yourself, £20 to £35 per unit delivered,    2 bolts to undo, 30 minutes work,  save  the money for the fuel for the 600 miles per week 

ps the Honda OEM part is £237
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Post by: Jocko on April 22, 2021, 05:48:26 PM
My son-in-law said he will do it for me but I cannot arrange anything at the moment for the same reason I am doing 600 miles per week. I am too infirm to fit it myself.
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Post by: Westy36 on April 22, 2021, 09:40:24 PM
If its only a hole, the silencer should still hang on. Just be a bit noisy, which is not ideal. Fun at the traffic lights with the boy racers though!!

Your Jazz will stand by you though. They are tough little cars and there are non better for reliability.
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Post by: Jocko on April 22, 2021, 10:27:44 PM
If its only a hole, the silencer should still hang on. Just be a bit noisy, which is not ideal. Fun at the traffic lights with the boy racers though!!
It is not too noisy. I am aware of a burble when I leave and enter the garage, but it seems to be getting worse. It is the front face of the silencer. That is where it went last time and there was not a lot of time between the exhaust starting to burble and the silencer bouncing along the tarmac. If the pipe went an inch into the silencer the silencer wouldn't drop, but I think the pipe finished flush with the front face.
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Post by: E27006 on April 23, 2021, 08:24:22 AM
If its only a hole, the silencer should still hang on. Just be a bit noisy, which is not ideal. Fun at the traffic lights with the boy racers though!!
It is not too noisy. I am aware of a burble when I leave and enter the garage, but it seems to be getting worse. It is the front face of the silencer. That is where it went last time and there was not a lot of time between the exhaust starting to burble and the silencer bouncing along the tarmac. If the pipe went an inch into the silencer the silencer wouldn't drop, but I think the pipe finished flush with the front face.

Until the car is inspected, we will not know for sure, but it  may be the Firering seal, the Firering can wear and leak,  the rear box couples to the centre pipe by a  ball and socket style of joint, tensioned by two springs ,  the Fire Ring  sits between the ball and the socket of the spring loaded joint, again you can have the Firering from Ebay, usually part of a kit with new springs and the collared bolts. the springs/collared bolts/firering parts are the same ones  for the Exhaust Manifold to Catalytic convertor joint
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Post by: Jocko on April 23, 2021, 08:56:08 AM
Until the car is inspected, we will not know for sure, but it  may be the Firering seal, the Firering can wear and leak
The car has been inspected, by my son-in-law. who is a time served mechanic with 45 years working as a mechanic. The rear wall of the silencer is rusted and holed. It needs a new backbox.
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Post by: Kremmen on April 23, 2021, 09:35:40 AM
........ or a new Jazz :D
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Post by: peteo48 on April 23, 2021, 10:38:06 AM
It's a great testament to your Jazz though that it's still capable of being used as a high mileage daily driver. Hope circumstances improve soon Jocko so you can dial back your inter galactic weekly mileage.
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Post by: Jocko on April 23, 2021, 10:55:52 AM
I thought I might have had a day off today, but my wife has said she wants to go and visit her Mum so I am off in an hour.

Narrowed down my replacement to an MG5 Excite or a new Jazz SR. I fancied the Honda e, but my wife thinks it looks ugly. Doesn't like the front end.
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Post by: bus_ter on April 23, 2021, 11:16:39 AM
At the moment I am doing 600 miles a week, in my tired old Jazz. If this continues much longer I will have to up my mileage with my insurer. I have a hole developing in my backbox, but because of circumstance, I cannot arrange to get it repaired. Hope I can replace it before it decides to drop off on the motorway!

Mine did drop off.. I think I posted about it at the time. I replaced the middle and back sections with a Klarious exhaust with 5 year guarantee. Something like £50 for both parts. The hardest part was getting the middle section off the catalyst. All rusted up and bonded together. The back section was fairly easy I think.
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Post by: Kremmen on April 23, 2021, 11:18:35 AM
I think you'd struggle to do 600 miles a week in a Honda-E
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Post by: Jocko on April 23, 2021, 11:34:19 AM
The new car will replace the Jazz one we move to the south of Edinburgh. Then I will be doing 600 miles a year! Once a week to Asda at the Jewel. That and the odd hospital appointment (4 mile round trip).
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Post by: E27006 on April 23, 2021, 11:46:09 AM
At the moment I am doing 600 miles a week, in my tired old Jazz. If this continues much longer I will have to up my mileage with my insurer. I have a hole developing in my backbox, but because of circumstance, I cannot arrange to get it repaired. Hope I can replace it before it decides to drop off on the motorway!

Mine did drop off.. I think I posted about it at the time. I replaced the middle and back sections with a Klarious exhaust with 5 year guarantee. Something like £50 for both parts. The hardest part was getting the middle section off the catalyst. All rusted up and bonded together. The back section was fairly easy I think.
The centre section made by Klarius,  did it fit easily? Or did it require work? Many of the centre section pattern parts are poor in dimensions, they are warped and have to be adjusted by bending to match the Honda original part.
Pattern parts can have an oversized siilencer section, diameter too large,  fouling  the  sills intermittently causing a knock.  If the Klarius is a good fit, especially the diameter of the silencer, I will order a Klarius to replace my centre section which hangs low   on the car
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Post by: bus_ter on April 23, 2021, 04:09:50 PM
It was a great fit. Everything aligned up where it should. Undoing the old bolts was the hardest part. I think I also bought a fitting kit that included a seal that fitted between the mid section and cat, also some of the spring bolts to attach the mid section to the rear section (to allow movement) and some new hangars.

The new exhaust is a little louder than the old one also. Only slightly but I did notice. Possibly there's less baffling in the silencer box parts?
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Post by: bus_ter on April 23, 2021, 04:13:07 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Klarius-Exhaust-Centre-Pipe-Silencer-Box-HA319E-BRAND-NEW-5-YEAR-WARRANTY-/153083788947?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
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Post by: Jocko on April 23, 2021, 07:08:34 PM
Happened to meet my son-in-law this afternoon, so he is going to get a new backbox for me on Monday, if they have one in stock, and if my circumstances permit he will fit it Monday evening.
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Post by: E27006 on April 23, 2021, 07:43:02 PM
The new car will replace the Jazz one we move to the south of Edinburgh. Then I will be doing 600 miles a year! Once a week to Asda at the Jewel. That and the odd hospital appointment (4 mile round trip).
Just keep  your faithful  friend the 1.2DSi,  at 600 miles per year (10 gallons of petrol)  it will serve you well and last for many many years.
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Post by: E27006 on April 23, 2021, 07:47:29 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Klarius-Exhaust-Centre-Pipe-Silencer-Box-HA319E-BRAND-NEW-5-YEAR-WARRANTY-/153083788947?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
Thank you for the advice, I have ordered the Klarius part,  £36 with a voucher offered by the  seller and free postage too!
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Post by: Jocko on April 23, 2021, 08:25:56 PM
Just keep  your faithful  friend the 1.2DSi,  at 600 miles per year (10 gallons of petrol)  it will serve you well and last for many many years.
It does make a lot of sense but I just fancy owning one new car before I die and I really need an automatic.
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Post by: Westy36 on April 24, 2021, 07:46:13 AM
It does make a lot of sense but I just fancy owning one new car before I die and I really need an automatic.
Want rather than need. I think a lot of people post lockdown are similar minded. 'YOLO' and all of that. Can't take it with you.

 
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Post by: jaytee on April 24, 2021, 08:04:01 AM
Jocko if you do get a get a new auto, consider the MK3,would like to see how your MPG works out,plus would miss your input in the forum, stay with Honda! there is a new HRV coming, good luck whatever you choose.
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Post by: Kremmen on April 24, 2021, 08:21:31 AM
My reason for not getting a MK3 was the 1.3 CVT.

From reading reviews I got the impression it was a typical CVT very high rev whilst you wait for the speed to catch the engine.

The MK4 sounds totally different.

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Post by: Jocko on April 24, 2021, 05:44:57 PM
would miss your input in the forum, stay with Honda
I'd probably just SORN the Jazz rather than sell it, as there is plenty of space in the drive for two or three cars. I'd love to just tinker with it without having to worry about having it ready to go anywhere.

Today my wife and I were discussing E27006's suggestion to hold on to the old car and my wife agrees that keeping it, and just running it into the ground makes a lot of sense. I have to agree but I do need an auto as my knees are getting worse and the manual is becoming a pain, literally. I desperately want an EV and am looking very closely at the MG5 Excite, the bottom of the range MG5.

Her indoors prefers the white to the red I fancied and if it's what it takes them white it will be!

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Post by: degzi on April 24, 2021, 09:50:48 PM
Tired and old!
What's your mileage on.

I'm on 138,900 miles and was admiring how well my jazz is coping.
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Post by: swhull on April 25, 2021, 09:23:28 AM
I'm on 138,900 miles and was admiring how well my jazz is coping.

139k is nowt! Barely run in, plenty more left in her yet   ;D
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Post by: Jocko on April 25, 2021, 09:58:23 AM
Tired and old!
What's your mileage on.
Filled up today at 137,279. Mechanically the car is great but the bodywork is getting a bit tired.

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Post by: Jocko on April 25, 2021, 10:12:57 AM
One of the benefits of the high mileage I am doing is the fuel economy. With the warm, sunny weather we are experiencing at present, and the dry roads, I managed a "calculated" mpg this top-up of 61.1 mpg, this morning. The FOB or "Fibometer" said 61.6 and my first thought was, "that's rubbish", but not so much so.
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Post by: swhull on April 25, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
One of the benefits of the high mileage I am doing is the fuel economy. With the warm, sunny weather we are experiencing at present, and the dry roads, I managed a "calculated" mpg this top-up of 61.1 mpg, this morning. The FOB or "Fibometer" said 61.6 and my first thought was, "that's rubbish", but not so much so.

That’s a great mpg figure... when I got my mk2 last month the fibometer read 38 or thereabouts, every time I drive it it seems to tick up 0.1mpg, think it’s 42.1 currently, aiming for the 60’s now!