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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1650 on: November 24, 2020, 05:13:27 AM »
Wonder how that would link into/replace my Johnson & Starley warm air system.
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« Reply #1651 on: November 24, 2020, 07:00:22 AM »
This thread is for electric cars. If this subject is going to run would someone like to start a Heat Pump thread?

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1652 on: November 24, 2020, 08:30:37 PM »
Found this, purely by chance. Replacing a faulty battery module in a 2011 Nissan Leaf.


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« Reply #1653 on: November 25, 2020, 07:13:37 AM »
I see Elon Musk is now the second richest man on the planet. Huge jump in wealth since Tesla was admitted into the S&P 500.

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« Reply #1654 on: November 25, 2020, 07:38:23 AM »
He needs to get on top of the Tesla reliability issues. They frequently come bottom, or close to, in owner surveys.
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« Reply #1655 on: November 25, 2020, 08:52:27 AM »
Their problems seem to be more build quality and finish than reliability. Still selling like hotcakes, there are a wheen of Model S's around here.
Think back to the early days of Kia and Hyundai and look at them now.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1656 on: November 25, 2020, 09:25:29 AM »
I see Elon Musk is now the second richest man on the planet. Huge jump in wealth since Tesla was admitted into the S&P 500.

As the saying goes, "he who dares..." and all that.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1657 on: November 25, 2020, 12:37:23 PM »
Just referring to Jocko's post above about replacing a faulty battery module, the same You Tube channel - James and Kate - has another video where they put an additional battery in the car to increase range. It comes with a kit including uprated suspension parts to cope with the extra weight.

It now looks as if a decent after market industry is growing up for EV batteries. The old adage (mostly untrue btw) that after so many years an EV would just be scrap is being consigned to history.

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« Reply #1658 on: November 26, 2020, 09:27:32 AM »
Watched an interesting video of a degradation test on a 7-year-old Tesla Model S. It is a P85, one of the first 6 Model S's in Norway. After 7 years the battery has only lost 5% and will still return 275 miles on a charge. The guy says that the degradation is a bit like the depreciation of a car. It is high in the early years and reduces as the battery ages. He reckons that after 20 years, the battery would still have 90% capacity.



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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1659 on: November 26, 2020, 10:16:27 AM »
Watched an interesting video of a degradation test on a 7-year-old Tesla Model S. It is a P85, one of the first 6 Model S's in Norway. After 7 years the battery has only lost 5% and will still return 275 miles on a charge. The guy says that the degradation is a bit like the depreciation of a car. It is high in the early years and reduces as the battery ages. He reckons that after 20 years, the battery would still have 90% capacity.

I think they have been genuinely surprised by the longevity of the batteries, particularly those cars with proper battery cooling systems.

I can see a healthy market in battery pack reconditioning developing, just like engine and gearbox reconditioning specialists exist now for ICE vehicles. You can already go to a specialist and have all the faulty cells replaced to extend the life of failing packs.

Once the supply of new batteries is in full flow, you might even add to that the availability of aftermarket replacement battery packs.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1660 on: November 26, 2020, 10:21:22 AM »
I replaced the battery for my Dyson vacuum, and the new one, same size, has about 1.5 times the capacity. Same will happen with EV batteries.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1661 on: November 26, 2020, 10:28:01 AM »
I replaced the battery for my Dyson vacuum, and the new one, same size, has about 1.5 times the capacity. Same will happen with EV batteries.

Indeed, and what I forgot to add above is that once a healthy reconditioner/replacement market exists, the prices should come down.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1662 on: November 26, 2020, 11:14:04 AM »
Yes, a friend replaced an 8 year old Prius battery pack for a few hundred quid.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1663 on: November 26, 2020, 11:36:44 AM »
That's encouraging Kremmen (captain?) I'd like to go hybrid but my only option would be a Prius with interplanetary mileage 😊
"Indecision is a terrible thing"
Or is it? What do you think?

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1664 on: November 26, 2020, 12:20:16 PM »
That's encouraging Kremmen (captain?) I'd like to go hybrid but my only option would be a Prius with interplanetary mileage 😊

I've never been a fan of the hybrid route. Like you, I tend to buy older cars, and while Japanese vehicles are generally the most reliable out there, hybrids are complex. Nice when they are new and under warranty, but I see a lot of danger from an older hybrid.

When I finally make the jump from internal combustion, I will probably try to go full electric - the drivetrain is far less complicated.

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