All Season Tyres for Crosstar

[Expatman]

Looking to change my Yeti for a new Crosstar and would change tyres to all season tyres, living in North Yorkshire it's a sensible change.
However shocked to discover that none of the quality tyre makers produce a 185x60 R16 86 load index all season tyre, in fact few sell any tyres that size.
This seems like a deal breaker and I'm surprised Honda haven't foreseen this and considered the tyre spec for the Crosstar.
Real problem for Crosstar buyers when they need new tyres and have little to no choice in tyres.

[John Ratsey]

185/60 R16 seems to be more popular in Asia given that most of the manufacturers are Asian. Here's one all-seasons tyre https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110&cart_id=BK5tNO8epxyMRWCy.110.496285196&sowigan=GAN&Breite=185&Quer=60&Felge=16&Speed=H&ranzahl=1&m_s=3&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&Label=E-C-69-2&details=Ordern&typ=R-412849. However, if 195/60 R16 is technically acceptable then there's a much bigger choice https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110&cart_id=BK5tNO8epxyMRWCy.110.496285196&sowigan=GAN&Breite=195&Quer=60&Felge=16&Speed=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&search_tool=standard&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&tyre_for=PKW&suchen=Search+for+tyres. Slightly wider tyres should, I think, reduce the risk of damage to the rims but there will be a margin hit on the fuel economy and they might clash with the body when on full lock. This website https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tools/fit-the-tyre-to-the-rim/6-00jx16 suggests that a big range of tyres will fit the Crosstar's 16 x6J rims but more or less than the 60 profile will change the speedometer calibration (and potentially confuse the hybrid system) and higher profile may also have clearance problems.

Perhaps you should ask Honda UK if slightly wider (195) tyres would cause a problem (Crosstar owners will be interested in the answer when they need to change their tyres). If nothing else it might alert Honda to the poor range in that tyre size.

[Downsizer]

With 195 width, would you not drop to 55% profile to maintain a closer overall diameter?  185 x 60%=111.  195 x 55%=107.  195 x 60%=117.

[Rory]

Real problem for Crosstar buyers when they need new tyres and have little to no choice in tyres.

It was similar when mk2 Jazz came out and 16" versions were 185/55R16 and the choice was very limited, and expensive.  I got a set of 15" Honda wheels and ran the car (still do) year round on Michelin Alpin winter tyres.

[John Ratsey]

With 195 width, would you not drop to 55% profile to maintain a closer overall diameter?  185 x 60%=111.  195 x 55%=107.  195 x 60%=117.

Thanks for pointing this out. There's still a good selection https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110&cart_id=2pGfI6X0YO3K6BkK.110.1840221644&sowigan=GAN&Breite=195&Quer=55&Felge=16&Speed=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&search_tool=standard&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&tyre_for=PKW&suchen=Search+for+tyres provided that the slightly wider tyres don't clash with anything immovable when on full lock.

[123Drive!]

If 195 60 16 fits then I can recommend Maxxis AP3 as I m using them now. They are also very good value. But it's crazy 185 60 16 are not widely available.

[culzean]

If 195 60 16 fits then I can recommend Maxxis AP3 as I m using them now. They are also very good value. But it's crazy 185 60 16 are not widely available.

The Mk2 Jazz with 16" wheels was the same when it came out, it had 185/55R16 tyres which were rare and expensive,  one of the reasons I changed wifes to 15"  wheels with widely available ( and much cheaper ) 175/65R15 tyres,  the other thing was it improved the ride and road noise ( and possibly the MPG )..

[Expatman]

Sorry everyone, actual tyre size confirmed by Honda as 185 55 R16 NOT 60 profile as I thought.
Doesn't change the problem however, there is very little choice of tyres in that size from any manufacturer - and only Falken make a suitable All Season tyre.  So Crosstar drivers are excluded from the highest performance quality tyres. Is this a deal-breaker for anyone? Might be for me.

[ndavey1]

I’m sure for most people it won’t matter. Many people are like me, buy the cheapest tyres available. What’s more important to me is car features (mk4 has got a ton) and mpg.  My previous auto got 35mpg, now my mk4 gets average 70mpg. I couldn’t be happier.

[richardfrost]

I’m sure for most people it won’t matter. Many people are like me, buy the cheapest tyres available. What’s more important to me is car features (mk4 has got a ton) and mpg.  My previous auto got 35mpg, now my mk4 gets average 70mpg. I couldn’t be happier.

When it comes to safety, your tyres are “where the rubber meets the road” so personally, I don’t look for the cheapest tyres so much as the best all round value. When I had my HRV that ran on Landsail Winter Tyres, cheap but not crap. In fact I still have them stored away, although I am not sure what I will do with them now!

[Austriaman]

Sorry everyone, actual tyre size confirmed by Honda as 185 55 R16 NOT 60 profile as I thought.
Doesn't change the problem however, there is very little choice of tyres in that size from any manufacturer - and only Falken make a suitable All Season tyre.  So Crosstar drivers are excluded from the highest performance quality tyres. Is this a deal-breaker for anyone? Might be for me.

If this helps, my Crosstar has 60 profile tyres fitted

[culzean]

I’m sure for most people it won’t matter. Many people are like me, buy the cheapest tyres available. What’s more important to me is car features (mk4 has got a ton) and mpg.  My previous auto got 35mpg, now my mk4 gets average 70mpg. I couldn’t be happier.

Wow I can't believe you would rather have auto lights, Bluetooth and heated seats than safe tyres, they are the only contact the car has with the road, your self dipping headlights may end up dipping themselves in a river one day......

[Expatman]

Sorry everyone, actual tyre size confirmed by Honda as 185 55 R16 NOT 60 profile as I thought.
Doesn't change the problem however, there is very little choice of tyres in that size from any manufacturer - and only Falken make a suitable All Season tyre.  So Crosstar drivers are excluded from the highest performance quality tyres. Is this a deal-breaker for anyone? Might be for me.

If this helps, my Crosstar has 60 profile tyres fitted

Hi Austrian,
Were they fitted as original equipment or did you swap the 185/55 profile tyres for 185/60 profile? If so I guess you have to inform your insurer because you have 'modified' the car!
If they were fitted as original equipment then what is going on with Honda?

[jazzaro]

Sorry everyone, actual tyre size confirmed by Honda as 185 55 R16 NOT 60 profile as I thought.

Jazz GR 2020 SE and SR 185/60R15 88H
Jazz GR 2020 EX 185/55R16 87H
Jazz GR 2020 Crosstar 185/60R16 86H

These are tyre size for italian GR Jazz, no other size allowed.
We can only downgrade the speed code using winter tires, but only from 15th november to 15th april.

[Expatman]

Honda UK confirmed in email to me that tyre spec for UK Crosstar is 185/55 R16 87H. Not sure why it should be different in Italy?