Reconfiguring car features by a dealer

[TnTkr]

There are some annoying software controlled features in my 2019 GK5 Jazz. I would be glad to hear if anyone knows if it is possible to reconfigure those features by Honda dealer programming tools. This far the list is as follows:

1. Automatic re-locking of the doors after 30 seconds if any door is not opened. I do not want it to automatically re-lock.
2. Rear lights are not lit when DRLs are on. In Finland it is allowed to have rear light lit with DRL and I would like to have those on all the time when driving.
3. Blinkers operate three times if the switch is applied shortly. I'd like to give only one blink.
4. Automatic hazard lights when braking sharply i.e. emergency stop signal. It's annoying to have hazard lights operate when I brake sharp as I normally do when coming to corners or tight turns or at the end of motorway exit ramp. I'd like it to be less sensitive or completely off.
5. Starting require pressing the clutch. I want to start the engine without getting in to the car.
6. Keep the CTBA turned off when starting the car if it was off last time.

[Jocko]

Best to ask your dealer, but I have my doubts.

[TnTkr]

I certainly will ask the dealer. I just wanted to ask here first because sometimes dealers say no only because they do not know or are too lazy to find out.

If the dealer says no, I will go to a small private company having selection of diagnostic and software tuning tools and see what they are able to do. It's just that Honda's proprietary system can go deeper and do more than generic commercial tools.

[richardfrost]

4. Automatic hazard lights when braking sharply i.e. emergency stop signal. It's annoying to have hazard lights operate when I brake sharp as I normally do when coming to corners or tight turns or at the end of motorway exit ramp. I'd like it to be less sensitive or completely off.

Are you Tommi Mäkinen perchance?

[John Ratsey]

1. is a justifiable security feature. Briefly open any door to de-activate it. Otherwise the car locks itself in case you have changed your intention to get into it.
2. Might be fixed by some re-wiring.
3. You can avoid this by turning the indicator switch further and then cancelling.
4. Is a safety feature. I think it's activated once for me in the past five years when motorway traffic rapidly slowed down for some reason but my underlying driving philosophy is that heavy braking = fuel wasted.
5. Is a safety feature.
6. Is a safety feature. Why do you want to disable it? It's activated once or twice for me when someone has quickly switched lane into the gap in front of me.

[culzean]

What annoys me about the 3 blinks is that I never use it because I always signal well in advance and don't think 3 blinks is at all useful to anyone, but sometimes the stalk flicks back from say a left turn and indicates right turn for 3 blinks,  this has happened on several cars and is dodgy in city where turns are close together and people desperate to pull out just waiting for a blinker before they go ahead.

I agree about rear lights being on with DRL - no brainer really,  I used to see numpties driving around in dark with only front DRL and no rear lights at all,  disconcerting in winter when you come up behind cars with no rear lights showing, especially on bends.

All the rest seem to be safety related and Honda probably breaking law if they turn them off permanently - driver may be able to perform a one off disable,  but they should come back on next time car is started.

[jazzaro]

There are some annoying software controlled features in my 2019 GK5 Jazz. I would be glad to hear if anyone knows if it is possible to reconfigure those features by Honda dealer programming tools. This far the list is as follows:

1. Automatic re-locking of the doors after 30 seconds if any door is not opened. I do not want it to automatically re-lock.
2. Rear lights are not lit when DRLs are on. In Finland it is allowed to have rear light lit with DRL and I would like to have those on all the time when driving.
3. Blinkers operate three times if the switch is applied shortly. I'd like to give only one blink.
4. Automatic hazard lights when braking sharply i.e. emergency stop signal. It's annoying to have hazard lights operate when I brake sharp as I normally do when coming to corners or tight turns or at the end of motorway exit ramp. I'd like it to be less sensitive or completely off.
5. Starting require pressing the clutch. I want to start the engine without getting in to the car.
6. Keep the CTBA turned off when starting the car if it was off last time.

1- Not possible, this is a safety feature. The radio frequency  jam could open the car and it would remain opened without this feature. With earlier remote controlled lockers it could happen frequently, especially in big cities, to find your car opened, so all recent cars do the same; in my old Renault, the auto-close came after 1 minute.
2- I don't know, but I think it's not possibile. Feeding rear lights would mean lighting on also front lights, their wirings are the same.
3- If possible, I would set it to 5-7 blinks: one single blink is definetly unuseful.
4- In my old Renault this feature could be enabled or disabled in the ABS settings, so you can ask the dealer.
5- Safety feature, all japanese cars I drove need to deeply press the clutch (or the brake if automatic) to start the engine. I think it's not possibile to disable it.
6- I think it could be possible to permanently disable it, or to keep it disabled at startup. I don't konw if there is an option "re- play last mode".
I quote who told you to ask your dealer.

[jazzaro]

I agree about rear lights being on with DRL - no brainer really,  I used to see numpties driving around in dark with only front DRL and no rear lights at all,  disconcerting in winter when you come up behind cars with no rear lights showing, especially on bends.

This cannot happen in GK3 and GK5, the ECU will set lights on in the dark.

[TnTkr]

Because of my work I happen to know that none of those is required by EU legislation or defined in CoC. I know that many of those are intended to be safety features, but they are such features I would like to get rid of.

Let me explain:
1. I usually keep the car unlocked so that any of our family can go and get something from or bring into the car. Now if some kid accidentally locks the doors remotyly I need to get by the car to keep them unlocked again.
2. Snow blinding the rear of the car as well as overall visibility. In Finland we have had to keep the lights on all the time since 80's.
3. I use single blink to thank e.g. trucks if they hepled me passing by or say hello to friends on road.
4. Unnecessary blinking in regular driving. No, I am not a rally driver.
5. In wintertime I start the car when beginning to brush snow or scrape windows. I start it without stepping in to the car to avoid snow on the floor.
6. It makes annoying things in urban traffic. That's why I have to disable it every time I start the car.

[jazzaro]

1- Ok, sorry for you.. You will have to teach your kids how to use the remote control or not pressing the close button on the handle.
2- Yes, many cars can have "northern country mode" to be selected, with lights  always on. But in this case all lights will be set to on, both front and rear. Jazz have another feature, when wipers are on, also lights will be automatically  set to on.
3- boh
4- check..
5- USA GK5, if cvt, can have a remote startup system, so the car (with parking brake hold and shift lever in P) can be switched on using the remote knob. In other case, you must press the clutch.
6- check

[Major clanger]

TnTkr

I can identify with most of those issues, the clutch issue in particular is really annoying when working on the car and dirty I can't start the engine without first having covered the front seat and foot well.

I have Ford vehicle that has the same issue together with some other annoying ones, the difference is I can use Fordscan sofware on a laptop and turn some things off - sadly not the clutch issue.

Have you looked at getting hold of Honda HDS and running it on a laptop?  I think some of those parameters will be configurable on the Body Control Module.

[jazzaro]

TnTkr

I can identify with most of those issues, the clutch issue in particular is really annoying when working on the car and dirty I can't start the engine without first having covered the front seat and foot well.

I have Ford vehicle that has the same issue together with some other annoying ones, the difference is I can use Fordscan sofware on a laptop and turn some things off - sadly not the clutch issue.

Have you looked at getting hold of Honda HDS and running it on a laptop?  I think some of those parameters will be configurable on the Body Control Module.

I owned a Renault, and using the CAN CLIP I could configure some settings (lights always on, brake lights on with  hard braking) but not everything can be configured.
I would like to buy an HDS clone system, just to try setting some features that could be activated (automatic mirror folding, auto door locking when starting, cornering lights..) or setting the climate control in another way (ricirculating is too often on when I ask cold air), but I don't know if these parameters can be set or they are locked. First of all I should read the workshop manual, but MARIS is not free or downloadable.
That's a pity..

[TnTkr]

Have you looked at getting hold of Honda HDS and running it on a laptop?  I think some of those parameters will be configurable on the Body Control Module.

In another thread I have explained why I would like to find other ways than a clone HDS, but at the end it may be unavoidable. Pity that none of my car software tweaking computer-minded friends are specialised to Hondas.

[jazzaro]

Yes, you must use the original software....
Brief Out of Theme; which winter tire do you suggest, since you live in Finland?
Thanks

[TnTkr]

It depends on what kind of winter conditions you are driving. I live in southern Finland and I do appreciate good dry/wet road stability and low noise. I dislike Nokian tyres, because they have lousy stability. I have not yet decided which tyres I'll buy for Jazz, but GoodYear Ultra Grip Ice 2 appears promising, as it has very low noise and reasonable rolling resistance. And my previous experiences on GoodYear winter tyres are positive. I'll certainly have eye on Michelin too. In my previous cars I have been very happy with Michelin Agilis Snow Ice.