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Title: Help !!! Superlocking stuck on.
Post by: Redstart on January 18, 2023, 05:17:05 PM
Hi all. My superlocking is locked on. Can only access the car with the key through the drivers door.  Key fob will not unlock car. After using key to unlock i can lock and unlock with fob but only driver's door. Any ideas?
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Post by: Wilmo on January 19, 2023, 08:01:34 AM
new battery needed in the fob?
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Post by: Redstart on January 19, 2023, 11:54:03 AM
I don't think so. It flashes the lights from 30 metres at least.
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Post by: monkeydave on January 19, 2023, 02:12:37 PM
maybe take the car battery off for a few mins and then try again, it might just be a glitch
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Post by: Redstart on January 19, 2023, 07:29:42 PM
I'll try that when we get back from France. Had to go in missus Peugeot  !!
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Post by: Wilmo on January 20, 2023, 07:55:06 AM
 >:( :o
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Post by: Redstart on January 23, 2023, 06:29:18 PM
Tried taking negative off the battery for a minute. Didn't work.
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Post by: Brakballe on January 25, 2023, 01:52:13 PM
Once inside, can you open all doors from the inside?
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Post by: Redstart on January 25, 2023, 06:00:34 PM
No. Other than the drivers door. They are all locked.
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Post by: Brakballe on January 26, 2023, 12:21:13 AM
No. Other than the drivers door. They are all locked.

The master lock switch on the drivers side is ofc off, right?
Then you might have one of the 5 locks jammed by broken gear(s) or toasted motor.
Try go very close to each door and use the fob. One might sound different..
Title: Re: Help !!! Superlocking stuck on.
Post by: Redstart on January 26, 2023, 05:29:05 PM
Master lock is off. When I click the fob, I here the locks clunk, but that's it. From inside the car the locks move slightly when fob pressed. I had this problem a few months ago, but I eventually got the locks open. Not this time !!
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Post by: d2d4j on January 26, 2023, 06:10:31 PM
Hi

I could be wrong as this is for when locks will not lock

Make sure the handle on the tailgate is fully pushed forward towards the car

Also, try unlocking with key - I think you have to do it twice

Many thanks

John
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Post by: guest9236 on February 02, 2023, 03:45:28 PM
Hi all. My superlocking is locked on. Can only access the car with the key through the drivers door.  Key fob will not unlock car. After using key to unlock i can lock and unlock with fob but only driver's door. Any ideas?

Have you sorted the problem if so  what was the solution please 🙏
Title: Re: Help !!! Superlocking stuck on.
Post by: Redstart on February 02, 2023, 07:30:42 PM
No!! My mechanic had a look with his scanner today. Said he could lock it but not unlock it. The door handles inside move but don't unlock. He thinks either control unit or actuators. Though why they've all failed is odd. The previous two times this happened I got it open. Booked to main dealer next week. Let's hope they know what to do rather than just replace everything as they go...Contacted Honda uk to see if they've heard of it. Not heard back yet.
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Post by: guest9236 on February 24, 2023, 02:35:10 PM
No!! My mechanic had a look with his scanner today. Said he could lock it but not unlock it. The door handles inside move but don't unlock. He thinks either control unit or actuators. Though why they've all failed is odd. The previous two times this happened I got it open. Booked to main dealer next week. Let's hope they know what to do rather than just replace everything as they go...Contacted Honda uk to see if they've heard of it. Not heard back yet.

Any news on your lock problem yet
Would be interested re any solution
Hope it’s good news for you
Title: Re: Help !!! Superlocking stuck on.
Post by: Redstart on February 26, 2023, 06:52:12 PM
Picking it up from main dealer tomorrow. Expect a bill north of 1.5K...
Wish I'd bought a Toyota.
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Post by: Redstart on February 27, 2023, 06:09:22 PM
Paid for the fix. £1100 not as much but still grim. Went to car in dealers car park. Unlocked car, put on the superlocking.
unable to get in the car!!!!!! Exactly as I left it 19 days ago!!!! Can only access drivers side with key in lock!!!!
The word nightmare doesn't do it justice!!
3 actuators replaced. Not sure that was the problem...
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Post by: Wilmo on February 28, 2023, 02:16:18 PM
Rhymes with clucking bell!   :o
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Post by: Jazzik on February 28, 2023, 03:14:51 PM
Funny(https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a085.gif) to hear that a main dealer has the guts to take £1100 for such a 'repair'. Nothing has changed except two bank accounts...
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Post by: Kremmen on February 28, 2023, 03:17:42 PM
What was their reaction when you showed them it was still the same ?
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Post by: Redstart on February 28, 2023, 10:26:29 PM
Got the service manager to car. Showed him the problem. Left it with them. Missus told them to refund me.  They've cascaded it up to Honda UK. I suspect its an electrical problem,  relay or something.
I'm not sure dealerships have the skills to fault find, replace parts yes, but I do not take my car to dealers, I use a good garage. But they've been OK with their communications. No courtesy car though after 20 days...
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Post by: Kremmen on March 01, 2023, 03:53:48 AM
So is this a franchised Honda dealer ?
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Post by: Jazzik on March 01, 2023, 11:42:36 AM
I do not take my car to dealers, I use a good garage.

Now I'm a little lost here. Or rather more than a little... (https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a015.gif) What did you say here?

Picking it up from main dealer tomorrow. Expect a bill north of 1.5K...

Went to car in dealers car park

The (main) dealer you are mentioning, what is it, a (main) Honda dealer or a 'good' (https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/boese/d026.gif) garage?
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Post by: Kremmen on March 01, 2023, 12:18:41 PM
Exactly the point of my query. I'm confused as well.
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Post by: Redstart on March 01, 2023, 01:39:34 PM
I have my cars serviced at a local garage. Used him for 12 years. Took the jazz to main honda dealer for the superlocking problem. Hope that clears up the confusion...
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Post by: Redstart on March 01, 2023, 01:42:51 PM
Jazz currently at Vertu Honda Nottingham...
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Post by: Jazzfan49 on March 01, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Vertu, that says a lot after buying 2 PSA (Stellantis) vehicles I wouldn’t trust them with a pushbike  :o
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Post by: Redstart on March 01, 2023, 05:18:18 PM
I get a little nervous when they say a technician is working on my car. I prefer a car mechanic to be working on my car...
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Post by: Jazzik on March 01, 2023, 06:58:36 PM
If you have problems with the engine, brakes etc. you are right. (https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/haushalt/k050.gif)
With your problem, a technician really doesn't seem like a bad choice to me..
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Post by: Jazzfan49 on March 01, 2023, 07:33:27 PM
I think technician is a general term used for dealer/garage mechanics. :'(
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Post by: Wilmo on March 02, 2023, 02:04:52 PM
makes them sound rather more up market, especially if you are charging them out at £120+ per hour.

say mechanic, think grease monkey
say technician, think highly trained & educated.
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Post by: Lord Voltermore on March 02, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
They used to call them fitters.  Parts had to be hand fettled  to make them fit.  Especially on British cars.   Hence the old  slang term 'Birmingham screwdriver' (a hammer) 

With 'Technicians' I tend to think, if the computer says no, they're stumped.  :-[
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Post by: Jazzik on March 02, 2023, 02:42:06 PM
makes them sound rather more up market, especially if you are charging them out at £120+ per hour.

say mechanic, think grease monkey
say technician, think highly trained & educated.

Technician: not the one who, for example, replaces the brake pads, he is the mechanic.
Technician: the guy (or as with our dealer: woman) who walks around with the laptop (https://em-content.zobj.net/thumbs/120/sony/336/laptop_1f4bb.png) to help the mechanic locate a problem. (She also has a USB stick with all the latest updates in a desk drawer).
She seems to be a real computer freak. In addition, she is also a nice lady... (https://em-content.zobj.net/thumbs/120/sony/336/woman_1f469.png)
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Post by: Jocko on March 02, 2023, 03:36:30 PM
They used to call them fitters.  Parts had to be hand fettled  to make them fit.
Diesel fitter. Diesel fit if I file them. Diesel fit if I hammer them.
Title: Re: Help !!! Superlocking stuck on.
Post by: Redstart on March 03, 2023, 10:00:47 AM
The latest news from Honda. There was some error in the software stored there from previous actuator failure. They cleared it out, and now it works, but they are still checking it out. From 09.26 yesterday...Still not totally convinced it was the actuators though. Any thoughts anyone?
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Post by: Kremmen on March 03, 2023, 10:13:04 AM
Just to give it a good test before driving away.
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Post by: richardfrost on March 03, 2023, 04:50:29 PM
The latest news from Honda. There was some error in the software stored there from previous actuator failure. They cleared it out, and now it works, but they are still checking it out. From 09.26 yesterday...Still not totally convinced it was the actuators though. Any thoughts anyone?

I can believe one actuator but not three. Sounds reasonable that something needed to be reset after the failure. I think they have over engineered the solution and you should ask for 50% back at least!
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Post by: Redstart on March 03, 2023, 05:36:02 PM
Jazz now home after 22 days !! Superlocking works OK. You do wonder whether a software reset would have worked. Like it does on a misbehaving phone !! I have the old actuators,  and I'll have them tested.
I did approach the main dealer about a contribution to my costs from Honda UK.
We'll see...
My advice to anyone who has a door problem like mine is to get the software looked at first. You never know...