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Westy36

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JLR Flush Door Handles.
« on: March 01, 2023, 09:48:44 PM »
I noticed these the other day on a JLR SUV in our local Homebase car park. Flush door handles that pop out when the car is unlocked. They then pop back in when the car is driven off.


So what happens in icy conditions? How do you get in when the electric motor goes wrong? And being an unreliable JLR product it is going to!

What an absolutely stupid piece of car design. So, when will the rest of the car manufacturers follow this trend?

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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2023, 04:44:36 PM »
The Honda e has similar flush door handles for the driver and front passenger, and I've read from some owners they can freeze in cold weather, making getting into the car difficult. I can only imagine what JLR spec ones are like! What's wrong with with a normal handle? Aside from the 0.01% aero benefit, of course.

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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2023, 05:05:29 PM »
Tesla have similar and had to recall for small heaters to be fitted as they were freezing locked, as mentioned.
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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2023, 08:27:17 PM »
These were the best. Didn't stick and would skewer errant pedestrians.


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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2023, 10:54:42 AM »
These were the best. Didn't stick and would skewer errant pedestrians.


Also able to be unlocked with a screwdriver...

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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2023, 03:03:10 PM »
I even managed to unlock an old Ford with my fingernail!

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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2023, 04:52:41 PM »
Looks just like my garage door lock.

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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2023, 10:09:43 AM »
Just another pointless ‘innovative’ design idea. By the millennium cars had been more or less perfected design wise, manufacturers now just try and invent new things that aren’t even needed. A million sensors for pointless gadgets, too many electronics… all you need is a radio and heater.

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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2023, 10:20:24 AM »
The one newish innovation I would miss is traffic. Quite a few times I've avoided lengthy holdups via advance warning.
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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2023, 10:32:31 PM »
Replacing the wing mirrors with cameras (as on the Honda e) will provide a much bigger benefit to the aerodynamics than the flush door handles. I also recall reading that door handle problems made a significant contribution to Tesla's poor reliability ratings.
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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2023, 12:50:09 PM »
Whilst perhaps a bigger aero benefit, cameras for door mirrors are in my opinion a pointless feature - the image on a screen is not going to be as good as looking at a door mirror, surely?! And the screens on the edges of the dashboard are in an unusual position to glance at when driving. Maybe we need to concentrate on the basics and not apply tech to cars for the sake of it (touch screen HVAC controls?!).

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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2023, 02:43:14 PM »
Replacing the wing mirrors with cameras (as on the Honda e) will provide a much bigger benefit to the aerodynamics than the flush door handles.

To begin with, you may wonder why a car like the Honda e, which has a streamline like a sea container, should be equipped with these cameras and flush door handles...
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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2023, 02:53:02 PM »
I've seen the E pseudo door mirrors and they are not as good as quality mirror glass. Especially for reversing where you need good visibility.

Cameras are affected by flare under some lighting conditions.
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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2023, 03:42:33 PM »
They have made accessories for cars as long as they have made cars. Many have been  useless.  Here's one that had its time and place
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Re: JLR Flush Door Handles.
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2023, 04:29:21 PM »
I even managed to unlock an old Ford with my fingernail!
My brother had a Mazda like that.

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