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Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.

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Yes, but I think it was my own fault.
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SebastianTR

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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2023, 07:37:09 AM »
In this video guy show the P mode brake


It's just a finger size metal stuff that hold the whole motor which this motor produce 250nm torque and car about 1500kg

When you put your gear P this little metal will hold the car for 1 year 2 years 5 years. Eventually it will have some defect.
That's why we had parking brake (hand brake).

My wife only used DSG gear for years and learned how to use it.
We never put car directly gear P and parking brake.
When we stop; my foot on brake. First gear to N then hand brake then take of my foot from brake then press brake again and gear to park.
It's doesn't matter on a flat surface but if you parking a sloped place and directly P all load will stay on this little metal finger firstly
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2023, 10:18:09 AM »
I had an empty battery 2 times last year and had to call emergency help. I received a new battery and the garage solved a software problem with the GPS module, which remained active. I myself had the idea that the flat battery would have been caused by not putting the car on the steering lock before I left the car. I wonder if there could be a connection there.
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2023, 02:15:36 PM »
I have never known a car with any electrical connection to the steering lock. It is just a pawl that fits into a notch on the steering assembly. I try never to engage the steering lock.

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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2023, 02:33:09 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean  by steering lock either.  If you mean you may not have  switched off the big  start up  'ignition' button  then yes that may have contributed. If you do forget the car normally beeps at you,when you get out ' but not very loudly  - I should imagine  :-[
« Last Edit: February 04, 2023, 02:37:14 PM by Lord Voltermore »
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2023, 02:36:31 PM »
And why have I always thought that the Jazz automatically goes on the steering lock when you turn off the power? Try turning the steering wheel when everything is off... ;)
« Last Edit: February 04, 2023, 06:48:04 PM by Jazzik »
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2023, 03:13:08 PM »
To my mind, an electric steering lock is a frightening concept. If you are driving down the road and experience an electrical failure the pawl would drop down and lock the steering.

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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2023, 03:24:06 PM »
When I have turned off the engine, I always have to turn the steering wheel slightly to lock it. I had understood somewhere that it was necessary to arm the alarm. If the car is not in the steering wheel lock, there may be an electrical system working that waits for the steering wheel to lock.
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2023, 07:32:56 PM »
I had understood somewhere that it was necessary to arm the alarm. If the car is not in the steering wheel lock, there may be an electrical system working that waits for the steering wheel to lock.
I don't think so but I have no idea how a steering wheel lock works with keyless entry.

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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2023, 07:39:29 PM »
This is how Ford do it:
STEERING WHEEL LOCK - VEHICLES WITH: KEYLESS ENTRY AND PUSH BUTTON START

Your vehicle has an electronically controlled steering wheel lock that automatically operates.
The steering wheel will lock shortly after you have parked your vehicle and the passive key is outside it or when you lock your vehicle.

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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2023, 07:17:18 AM »
I've never turned mine after parking but what I have noticed a few times after powering up is the steering wheel twitching slightly in a manner that indicated to me steering lock being released.
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2023, 09:53:08 AM »
The same here and try turning the wheel after you switched power off: LOCKED...!
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2023, 09:17:56 AM »
Do we know for sure that there is a steering lock? I imagine the Jazz has electric power steering. Our Panda had that. Powering off the steering system may well give the impression of a lock and may explain the kick to the steering wheel when the car is powered up.
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2023, 11:50:35 AM »
Powering off the steering system may well give the impression of a lock

Here "the impression of a lock" is that the steering wheel can be moved (maybe) at most a fraction after powering off and that was it. Blocked. So shall we just say it's "locked"? What way? How? Does it matter? Maybe because of powering off the steering system. But powered off, blocked, locked... it doesn't move and that's what it's all about... isn't it?
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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2023, 12:02:15 PM »
I'm still not 100% sure  but I now think there is a positive locking action when you power down   not just  the absence of power assistance. Or movement when the power assistance  becomes active again.   I got a  slightly different effect  on 3 different power downs, possibly depending on whether or not the road wheels were straight ahead, and whether you are holding the wheel enough to feel   any slight feedback/locking  action. .   (probably best not to hold too hard in case you are resisting the locking mechanism. )

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Re: Have you experienced a flat 12 volt battery with your Mk 4.
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2023, 07:57:13 PM »
For me, definitely a positive lock after power down- felt just like the locking of the old fashioned manual key steering lock!

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