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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 => Topic started by: JenniferJazz09EX on May 01, 2022, 04:13:27 PM

Title: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: JenniferJazz09EX on May 01, 2022, 04:13:27 PM
This car that I bought is turning out to have stuff wrong with it I think. I want a quality diagnostics done on it. How much should it cost and what should I ask for? Does it need to be a Honda garage?

So far: moves on its own in neutral
Rattles accelerating uphill
Sounds rough after a long drive
Loses acceleration power (slow climbing hills when hot).

Think I have been done over by two brothers who sell cars as independents. They run a car wash and sell cars on the side. Found out from V5 person before me only had it 2 months before he sold it again.
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: Westy36 on May 02, 2022, 08:03:05 AM
Diagnostics can be done by any garage. Search or ask for recommendations in your area. Cost, phone and ask a few, main dealers will be more expensive.

You could buy yourself a diagnostic tool/fault scanner. Search the forum and you'll find lots of ideas on which one to buy. Autel OBD scanners are good I beleive.

Sorry to hear your car is causing you problems. As a consumer you have rights when purchasing a used car. They are detailed here https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/how-to-reject-a-car-your-consumer-rights/

Before buying a car, you can research the gov website for last v5 issued etc and mot history https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla  and  https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history?step-by-step-nav=58fad183-27f5-4dd9-b51e-696c992373d7
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: PaultheManc on May 02, 2022, 10:57:07 AM
Moving on its own in neutral and losing power up a hill would sound like a clutch problem to me.
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: Shantijoe on May 02, 2022, 05:37:37 PM
Hi
I used a simple diagnostic tool from Amazon for about £22.00
Very easy to use and it spelt out 2 faults with my engine so I knew what to ask for at the garage.

I took it to a Honda garage afterwards for them to test the ECU which may have caused the faults.
Though they had booked it in to test the ECU when I went to collect it they hadn't been able to test it after all!

good luck, joe
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: MiniNinjaRob on May 02, 2022, 06:44:02 PM
Moving on its own in neutral and losing power up a hill would sound like a clutch problem to me.

I was thinking the same.
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: Jocko on May 02, 2022, 10:16:54 PM
Clutch is engaged in neutral. A car cannot drive forward unless it is in gear. A slipping clutch is blatantly obvious on a hill. The revs go up and the car eventually comes to a halt. With regard to an OBD reader. Unless the car is throwing up a malfunction light an OBD reader will not find anything to report.
Jennifer talks about the blue light coming on. ? I have a Mk 1 and the only blue light I have is the main beam warning. Does the Mk 2 have a blue light for something else?
@Jennifer. Does the yellow MIL come on at initial ignition on? Looks like an engine.
(https://carwarninglights.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/www.carwarninglights.net-18-min.png)
If not perhaps the light is faulty and there are OBD codes to check.

Honda will charge a minimum of £100 to tell you you need to spend another £1000. Get a knowledgeable friend to drive the car for you. Ideally another Jazz owner. If you have to go to a garage go to a reliable back street independent and seek their advice. And don't agree to get work done until you have been back on here.
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: GBH on May 03, 2022, 08:05:30 PM

Jennifer talks about the blue light coming on. ? I have a Mk 1 and the only blue light I have is the main beam warning. Does the Mk 2 have a blue light for something else?


Yes, the Mk2 has a blue warning light on the dash to indicate that the engine is cold. This goes off after the car has been driven and the engine is warmed up.
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: bill888 on May 04, 2022, 05:52:38 AM
fwiw, it could be an i-shift model?
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: Jocko on May 04, 2022, 05:46:39 PM
Yes, the Mk2 has a blue warning light on the dash to indicate that the engine is cold.
So does the Mk 1. I just never considered it a warning light.
Title: Re: Is it best to use a Honda garage for diagnostics?
Post by: GBH on May 04, 2022, 06:27:52 PM
Yes, the Mk2 has a blue warning light on the dash to indicate that the engine is cold.
So does the Mk 1. I just never considered it a warning light.

Checked this morning and was only lit for about a few hundred yards from start before switching itself off.  Handbook describes it as "Low Temperature Indicator".

Reference bill888's post: if an i-shift model there will be no clutch pedal and clutch engagement is controlled through engine speed. Presume that a fault in the mechanism could result in the clutch trying to engage early?