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Title: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: RichardA on July 31, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
(Common Fault I've heard about on the internet).

Check the carpets in rear footwell or boot for sign of dampness. Even if the carpets appear to be dry, check for any lingering smells of dampness or water marks (stained carpets). Any sign of leaks requires a new tailgate or rear door seal which can be a lengthy process, including possibly some re-spray work.

Also check under the rubber strips that run from the front to back of the car and inside the tailgate/boot shuts. Look for signs of cracking in the paint/sealant.

Edit 18 March 2014:
Honda *may* fix if under 6/7 years old. As even the last Mk1 Jazzes are now in their sixth year (2008), it's advisable to talk to your Honda dealer ASAP.

For owners of older cars or the DIY minded, try this link:
http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/jazz_leak.html (http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/jazz_leak.html)
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest786 on February 13, 2009, 09:52:07 AM
The wheel well in the boot of my Honda Jazz keeps filling with water, which then splashes out and "floods" the rear of the car. I think the rain water is coming in through the boot seal around the boot locking catch.
Any one else seen this ?
Fixes greatly appreciated ?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest350 on March 31, 2009, 08:08:02 PM
I have had the new door seal (twice and new carpets at over £500 fitted) and it still leaks. It's driving me nuts. The dealer can't find out what's causing the leak.
Okay I found the leak myself. It was coming into the car through a door card button on the rear passenger nearside door. Duct taped that hole closed and re-fitted the door card etc. and no more leaks.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest805 on August 07, 2009, 10:08:53 PM
I have been collecting water in spare wheel well and I have tried in vain to locate the source . Today with the car facing uphill on a slope I have poured water into the sun roof drains but only about a third of the water actually  drains out behind the rear wheels . Then later on water  trickles from underneath the side trim in the boot. Obviously a lot of water is going elsewhere although I have seen no evidence on the head lining. Also what I cannot understand is that some water seaps out through the bottom  of the car just ahead of the rear wheel arches . I cannot believe that there are sunroof drains there as well ?
Can a blocked sunroof drain cause this? , because I cannot understand how and  if so it is possible to clear them ?

This is driving me spare :'(
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: bill888 on August 08, 2009, 10:40:41 AM
There are two drain pipes connected to the factory sunroof.  One runs down one of the A pillars.  The other runs over the top of the rear quarter glass and down the D pillar - perhaps that has split near to the boot well which is why you are seeing water trickle from underneath boot side trim panel?

If you remove the boot side trim panel (and if necessary the rear quarter trim panel), you should see the drain pipe.

Unfortunately my line diagrams doesn't show where the drain pipe exits at the rear.

Check your PM.

Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: E27006 on December 18, 2009, 07:54:22 PM
You have probably sold the Car by now, but is this leak due to cracking  of the Body Seam Mastic. Cold weather triggers this.  Honda know of this problem, they strip out the Paint and  Mastic, replace  it with better quality,  and Respray.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1216 on January 23, 2010, 04:40:56 AM
Hi i had the same problem. The root cause is not the seal but the electrical wire harness boot which located on the top. Most probably it could have moved whist spring cleaning of the car. As the black boot seals the harness. Move back the harness into place & this should solve the problem.

Rgds
Chandran
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest869 on January 27, 2010, 02:14:58 PM
My 2003 Jazz is like a pond in the wheel well.............

I have read elsewhere that this is caused by an issue with the C pillar / roof sealant and it is replaced by Honda even if the car is out of warranty.

I have just spoken to Honda UK customer service and they said that the car needs inspecting by a Honda dealer and I will be charged for this inspection. If the problem is their fault I will get refunded.

Now before I go ahead with this I will check the other possible causes (electrical boot etc).

Will Honda fix any car? What are the terms of this warranty fix?

Thanks

John

Update

I have just done some investigation with the watering can. I reckon the water was finding its way in through the tailgate stay bracket. So I have taken it off and used a bit Loctite 518 sealant around the bolt holes and on the threads.

I took off the roof gutter trim strip and there is evidence of some small cracks on the right side sealant. So I then removed the rear boot trim panel and the right side boot panel. These come out easily, they are just clipped in plus a couple of screws on the side panel. One of the bits of foam on the rear panel was wet. Which lead me to the right side. I poured water into the gutter and could see it weeping out of a panel joint, plus there was rust between the panels by the spot welds.

I then tried the water over the stay bracket, which is below the cracked sealer and it was still coming in.

I will now wait and see what happens.

If it is fixed I will wait for everything to dry out and then inject some thin wax sealant to prevent further corrosion.

Interestingly in the boot there is white seam sealer on the seams (my car is blue and there is no other white sealer). It appears to have been put in after production. There is quite a bit where I saw the water weeping in........ but obviously it isnt doing any good!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1232 on February 01, 2010, 08:11:41 PM
I have the same problem, and I can also see rust traces around the spot welded joint under the trim on the rear C pillar.
I looked at the rear quarter light seals, but there is no evidence of water ingress there.

I am going to strip the boot trim out and try the watering can, starting at the bottom and working up.

If you find the leak, do not use silicone, try Sikaflex or Wickes Ultimate Sealant instead, dont worry about the 'forget nails' title, these sealants are polyeurathane, the are flexible for 30 years, you can wipe any excess off with white spirit, and you can paint them.

I used to assemble the black detachable roof for the Frontera, and that was the only sealant the Japanese would accept on quality control.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest869 on February 02, 2010, 08:30:07 AM
There is still a little water coming in so the small cracks in my sealant must be letting in water.

I will go to Honda and see what they say. If they will not fix it I will tackle the job my self. It will be easy enough.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest869 on February 08, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
I went to see my local Honda dealer and the guy there knew all about the leaks. My prognosis is correct. There are 2 paths the water takes. One is through the tailgate stay bolt holes and the other through the cracked seam sealer down the panals and into the spare wheel well. He took one look at my cracked sealer and said that was it.

BUT. They are only repairing under warranty up to 6 years of age and my car is out of that.

So I will fix it myself.

He also said they fixed it one of 2 ways. Either took out all the sealer and replaced or pushed RTV silicon in to the cracks.............

I will remove the sealer and use some polyutherane (Sikaflex??) then probably spray in the repair.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest869 on February 10, 2010, 04:23:55 PM
I have removed and replaced the seam sealer.

A short "How To" is http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/jazz_leak.html (http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/jazz_leak.html)

Hopefully this will have now cured the leak.
I am glad I did it and not Honda as I feel sure I did a more thorough job.
I purchased my Sikaflex from Ebay, total cost £7.00 and delivered in under 24 hours!!


UPDATE: After lots of rain and melting snow the spare wheel well is now dry. The leak is fixed!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: achilles on March 15, 2010, 05:50:41 PM
i had a similar problem. using a watering can i found that water was passing down behind the back of the rear lights. there is a small gap between light  housing and body of car, which can be  seen when you open back door. i used a small bit of clear silicon to plug the gap.  stopped leak straight away. hope this helps.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1364 on April 22, 2010, 08:10:23 PM
i had same problem - took in into honda and they sorted with sealant along top of tailgate gulley
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: RichardA on April 25, 2010, 08:27:58 PM
Bump.

Please vote in the poll at the start of this topic if your Jazz has suffered from this problem. Thanks.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1285 on April 27, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
I had terrible problems with water in spare wheel well and rear passenger seat wells and after reading forums rang Honda customer service at the time my electric window had the recall. Contacted local dealer (My car was registered Feb 05). They said it would be done under warranty and it was fixed last week foc. it was a 2 day job and they supplied a courtesy car and hopefully no more problems!! Really pleased with the service I received.
Sue  
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1325 on April 30, 2010, 08:31:38 AM
Having just purchased an 03 Jazz I spoke with the local dealership re water in the spare wheel well. They are aware of the problem and said that Honda had increased the warranty period by three years and although my jazz is one year outside this period  they will still do the repair as a gesture to a new customer.

Regards

Chris
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1390 on May 07, 2010, 08:51:09 PM
Have discovered water in the spare wheel well of our 2003 Jazz, when getting the jack out. Had not noticed it before but then you do not get the jack out very often :)
Will monitor it now as to what the cause is.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1372 on May 18, 2010, 08:55:45 PM
Failed roof seam sealant:

Been in to Marshall Honda York today to have window switch recall attended to, still can't convince them to fix the water leak via the failed roof seam sealant. They are as disinterested in helping me with this as they were with the failed rear wheel bearing.
I've had my car since 2002, so realise that the warranty is getting a very thin now, but had hoped that water coming through a hole in the body would be covered by the 12yr bodywork perforation warranty - alas no joy according to Marshall Honda. I wonder what they would do if it ended up rusting though the spare wheel well?
They have offered to 'diagnose' it for me and perform a chargeable repair.

Has any one paid for this work, and if so how much did it cost?
Alternatively has anyone had this fixed after more than six years?

It seems a shame when cars treated with care just outlast the various warranty periods, if I had stressed this car all these common faults would have failed earlier & been fixed f.o.c.

TG, York

http://www.york-honda.co.uk/showroom/ (http://www.york-honda.co.uk/showroom/)  MAR479
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1828 on December 31, 2010, 10:16:07 AM
this is just what my Jazz is suffering from, so thanks all, and TG, for pinpointing the issue, and now I'll get it sorted!

Happy New Year everyone!  :-*
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1939 on February 16, 2011, 04:56:24 PM
The wheel well in the boot of my Honda Jazz keeps filling with water, which then splashes out and "floods" the rear of the car. I think the rain water is coming in through the boot seal around the boot locking catch.
Any one else seen this ?
Fixes greatly appreciated ?

Thanks in advance.

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Had the same problem with water in the wheel well in a 2007 Jazz with 13k genuine miles.
Contacted the supplying Honda mail dealer. (Rowes of Plymouth) who said they are aware of this problem but it is not covered by the warranty. Despite mentioning that other people have had this repair carried out under warranty if the car was less than 6 years old. They informed up this was only applicable if the car was registered 2002-2006
They did the job for £114 inc vat and said the water was coming in from the boot hinges.  The car has been very well looked after and serviced by Rowes of Plymouth from new at the correct intervals.
I am very disappointed that this repair does not come  under the warranty considering the car is less than 4 years old. Honda know about the fault and must think that it is normal for one of their cars to start filling up with water after its 3 years old.


Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1828 on February 16, 2011, 06:20:49 PM
@bernharvey, I sympathize with your predicament; especailly as your car is a 2007 model...thought they would have learnt from previous complaints!

I just got my car done today and it cost me £358, and Honda UK refused to pay for it, and didn't even offer any gesture of a discount towards the repair!  The only help I got was with the car dealer I bought it from, who offered £150 in compensation towards the repair!

I have to say if your main dealer did the repair correctly, then you got away lightly with sofar as cost is concerned! Let's hope we both have no recurrance of this issue! ;)

btw, check your rear passenger footwells and make sure they're dry, as I also had water going in there from the passenger doors!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest2896 on November 15, 2011, 08:35:04 PM
Hi,
I've just found some water in the right hand side of the boot in my 2006 Jazz. This is probably a stupid question, but can someone please tell me how to remove the roof gutter trim to look for any cracking in the roof seam sealant?
Many thanks
Sarah
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1828 on November 15, 2011, 10:25:53 PM
Hi Sarah

it's quite a messy job, and in all honesty, it's better to let Honda deal with the repair, as at least it will be under warranty if it fails!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest2896 on November 15, 2011, 11:00:20 PM
Hi Reedswood,
Thanks for replying. As you say, if it's the seal cracked then it's probably best to get the garage to sort it. However, I was hoping to check that it actually is the seal before I go to them, so I need to get the gutter trim off first, to take a look, and I don't know how to do that.

I'm not completely sure it is the seal, because the water seems to be coming from around the triangular access panel behind the rear light cluster, then in over the plastic trim below the panel. I don't want the garage to charge me for investigating, then say that it's something not covered by the warranty.
Many thanks
Sarah
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1828 on November 15, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
you can just strip off a foot from the rear, and you should see if it looks dried and cracked, but reads the same as my complaint and needs a little more than just the rubber renewed etc to seal out the rain..Honda are all to aware of this issue, too, so they will ensure it's water tight if they do the work...did you buy it from a Honda dealer? if so, check with them if this compaint is still under Warranty as your car is 2006, si it just might still be covered as it's under 5 years old...be quick and book it in for a survey...it should be free!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest2921 on November 22, 2011, 03:18:03 PM
thanks to John's post (Feb 10th, 2010) for v helpful repair pictures. I had the same problem as everyone here (water in spare wheel well in 2002 Jazz). I checked the roof gutter strip and it was cracked in a small area. I sealed over the affected area of the gutter and down to the door hinge with a layer of RTV silicone. I also sealed the door hinge fix points with red gasket from a motor factor. A quick easy job, even on a cold winter day. No leeks after lots of heavy rain.  thanks.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1240 on May 20, 2012, 09:39:51 PM
I have recently noticed water in the boot, both sides. Has anyone found that the water was coming in behind the back lights and not the roof seams? The water seems to be on the access panel to the lights. If so what was done to repair?
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest2765 on May 24, 2012, 03:07:59 PM
my car does occasionally get water in the spare wheel bit. I keep an eye on it, does seem that it only happens if its been snowing...
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1240 on June 16, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
I think i have found a product that might help - captaintolley.com , well its worth a try!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3804 on January 16, 2013, 12:43:50 PM
Have just bought a 2007 Jazz secondhand (not from a Honda dealer) and found the wheel well with water in it.

Has anyone had the repair done by Honda for free?

Is there a Technical Bulletin nos I can quote please to the local dealer?

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: 54 Jazz owner on February 12, 2013, 10:31:22 AM
Took a couple of visits to the dealer to convince him of the problem, it only became apparent after the firstyear or so. They used a load of clear silicon in the join of the  roof and boot, well into the courners too. This fixed it permanently, its no neat but only visable when the boot is opened.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3860 on February 23, 2013, 01:12:08 AM
I know I'm dragging up an old thread but it's an issue i'm experiencing currently - only just bought the car aswell! (albeit 2nd hand). I have read that to fix the leak from the faulty roof seals you have to chop the old sealant out and re-seal. It looks like it's going to make a right old mess if I scrape/chop the sealant, has anyone managed to fix the leak by spreading silicon over the cracked sealant rather than going the whole hog?  :-X
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest2963 on February 23, 2013, 05:53:30 PM
My hubby found a wet spare wheel well,  :-[ and traced it to the roof rail /roof join , he then cleaned it but left the old sealer in place, but used body sealer on top and left to set, then just painted it with black paint , (carefully!) :D until we get correct paint........  no wetness yet  :)
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1232 on February 23, 2013, 08:43:42 PM
I know I'm dragging up an old thread but it's an issue i'm experiencing currently - only just bought the car aswell! (albeit 2nd hand). I have read that to fix the leak from the faulty roof seals you have to chop the old sealant out and re-seal. It looks like it's going to make a right old mess if I scrape/chop the sealant, has anyone managed to fix the leak by spreading silicon over the cracked sealant rather than going the whole hog?  :-X
Buy some black Sikaflex and simply clean the old sealant surface/channel with white spirit, apply masking tape to the sides of the channel and gun the sealant down the middle. Get some water mixed 50/50 with washing up liquid and dip your finger in, then run your finger along the new sealant to smooth it, pull off the tape and you're fixed. Any excess can be removed with white spirit.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: culzean on February 24, 2013, 04:09:22 PM
Sikaflex is awesome - its an industrial / construction polyurethane sealant / adhesive  - it can also be used to seal the leaky place on the Civic where the spoiler joins the rear window.  it is much better than silicon.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3860 on February 26, 2013, 03:43:11 PM
"Buy some black Sikaflex and simply clean the old sealant surface/channel with white spirit, apply masking tape to the sides of the channel and gun the sealant down the middle. Get some water mixed 50/50 with washing up liquid and dip your finger in, then run your finger along the new sealant to smooth it, pull off the tape and you're fixed. Any excess can be removed with white spirit."

Sounds like a plan, thank you.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: Jem on March 03, 2013, 03:03:19 AM
I have the wet boot problem, and I have not figured out if its the joint at the top under the rubber strip. Last time I looked it did not look cracked. So it could be the boot struts.


I might get some of the Sikaflex, I know this seems like a obvious and maybe silly question but is there any difference between the colours of sikaflex? so if I got the white its no different to the black stuff?

Thanks.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1232 on March 06, 2013, 12:34:39 PM
You will have to remove the rear part of the trim that runs along the roof joints, it simply unclips, you don't need to remove it completely.

The colour of Sikaflex isn't important, it's all good stuff and pretty well indestructible.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: Jem on March 06, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
Cool thanks, first thing I am going to try is sealing around the boot gas struts to see if that is where the water is getting in.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1232 on March 08, 2013, 12:57:13 PM
It probably won't be the gas strut mounts, if you look at the roof seal channel you will see tiny little cracks in the paint, anyway, it isn't a difficult fix as long as you get the area clean with a bit of white spirit first. Use masking tape to cover the bits you don't want to seal though, Sikaflex will even adhere to a damp surface, like sh1t to a blanket as they say !!

 ;D
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: Jem on March 08, 2013, 03:45:54 PM
When I did look before I could not see any cracks. But will do it if the struts does not work.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3804 on March 18, 2013, 11:50:36 PM
Update:

Spoke with Honda customer services to enquire about this issue and whilst they played coy they were clearly aware of the problem. I said if I took the car to the local dealer (Colchester) would they be prepared to meet the cost if the dealer did not - they indicated they would certainly review it.

So off I went to GH and discussed the problem with the service reception and had it booked in (I mentioned that I had spoken with Honda directly and they had acknowledged the problem and would review the costs as necessary).

End result they re-sealed the gutters and so far the boot is dry. The dealer did try and request an inspection fee but I politely argued the point in my favour.

My Jazz is a 2007 model which may have been a factor.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1232 on March 19, 2013, 08:26:55 PM
With a user name like Aqua, surely you need water in the boot ??

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3804 on March 20, 2013, 08:16:38 PM
 :-X  :D


With a user name like Aqua, surely you need water in the boot ??

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3971 on August 28, 2013, 09:47:05 AM
saw water on the boot after the heavy rain on the weekend!!! >:(

It was fine when I bought it but I think it is the famous leak now.

can some one give me some idoit guide how to check out if it leak on the side under the plastic strip?

I cannot get the strip out (i didnt use too much force in case I snap it)

can anyone who had done the leaking help pls

here are some pic taken on bank Monday. the rain is on Saturday i believe.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/william910/IMG_1764_zps59628660.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/william910/IMG_1763_zps2874909c.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/william910/IMG_1762_zps0fd7d830.jpg)

many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: JazzyB on August 28, 2013, 05:02:07 PM
Search this forum theres plenty of comments made.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3315 on August 31, 2013, 05:02:25 PM
Hi Noodle,

The culprit is the roof seam sealant.  seems like Honda has been tricked when they procure the seam sealant material for the purpose . The flexibility seems to be not as what they have expected.  PM your email I'll send photos n the stuff you need ...  :-X
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1521 on September 12, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
2003 GD.

I've used the 'search' function on the Forum using the obvious (IMO) keywords, some info found but not enough.

After heavy rain a little water is found UNDER the boot carpet, right rear almost in line with the jack mount near the back panel. It then has just a short distance to track along and run down to the jack mount area. The topside of the carpet remains dry.

What's the most likely cause and how can I be sure?
Cure? Cost?
Easy DIY?

Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1521 on September 13, 2013, 10:05:38 AM
Did a Google... seems likely to be the roof seam under the roof trim strip. This shows how to fix it.
 
http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/jazz_leak.html

Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest2913 on October 27, 2013, 11:27:10 PM
Ive got a 06 plate and took it in for service and did work on it for free due to leak wasnt aware of coz i only just got the car but Ive compared the space wheel area between both cars, mine has some like white seal you see around the bath and my grandparents nothing? :S , 2 years passed and my grandparents honda shuttle got wrote off and got 56 jazz and the boot fills with water and ive seen where the water is coming from!
lift the boot floor up and remove the plastic grill, there is a join between two peices of metal, its keeps leaking from there, i used duck tape on it and havent check since but the window havent steamed up but ill check tomorrow and report back, might actually help some people!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1112 on December 30, 2013, 04:54:49 PM
my car is a 2005 sports and i have got water in the boot!! so much water that if my spare wheel wasn't bolted down it would drift away .
it has been in the garage twice to have this "fixed" but it came out worse ..gone back in again this week and i have told them i don't want it back till fixed   >:(
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest4475 on February 10, 2014, 08:15:45 PM
Hi

I have had problems with water leaking into the spare wheel well in the boot of my car, I looked on here and found it was the roof gutter sealants. So I have filled them with the sealant that was recommened but I still have loads of water in the spare wheel well. Help!!!! Do you know of anywhere else the water could be coming in from???

Please any suggestions???
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1112 on February 11, 2014, 02:11:38 PM
no more water in the boot !!!  :D the dealers took it to a body shop near colwyn bay they had it for a week ..said the sealent around the top and sides had all cracked they dug it out and replaced with a " special " sealer its been outside in all the last two weeks of rain and no more leaks ...so a big thank you to north wales honda ..and kim  :)   

sorry i forgot to had : the leaks are coming from around the gas struts as well as the seams so take them off and fill with a good sealer ..not silicone !!
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest4512 on February 18, 2014, 05:28:11 PM
Hi all,

Just discovered a small Lake in the back footwell of my wife's jazz.

Can I ask, as most complaints seem to be related to the boot, if the same suggested fixes apply for that area?

Cheers
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1112 on February 19, 2014, 09:44:46 AM
Hi all,

Just discovered a small Lake in the back footwell of my wife's jazz.

Can I ask, as most complaints seem to be related to the boot, if the same suggested fixes apply for that area?

Cheers
yes it seems most if not all leaks in the boot are coming from the seams and the struts
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest4512 on February 19, 2014, 11:38:25 AM
Thanks but what about the water in the rear passenger footwell?
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1112 on February 19, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
Hi all,

Just discovered a small Lake in the back footwell of my wife's jazz.

Can I ask, as most complaints seem to be related to the boot, if the same suggested fixes apply for that area?

Cheers
yes it seems most if not all leaks in the boot are coming from the seams and the struts
that could still be coming from the roof seams i think someone as mentioned that on here before ..or maybe under the floor ? not sure sorry
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest4512 on February 19, 2014, 02:33:04 PM
Thanks anyway. I'll take a good look at it when we get a dry spell
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest4512 on February 21, 2014, 06:26:53 PM
Right, I've done some more research and found that water in the passenger foot well is most frequently down to the plastic vapour barrier in the door. Apparently there are a number of gaps that need filled, and the barrier also needs properly affixed to the frame of the door.

The following link illustrates the problem and solutions with images and is very clear. I found it on the American Fit site, it was written by a member - http://www.mye28.com/tech/rods_pages/id25.html#9-21-12

Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest1112 on February 22, 2014, 02:01:04 PM
hey that's really  helpful for moob who posted the water problem , i was most interested in the way he fitted the headlight bulbs as upgrading mine soon ; [when it gets a bit warmer ] and i heard they were a pig to fit new bulbs .very helpful many thanks 
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest4512 on March 02, 2014, 08:09:16 PM
No worries. I've done quite a bit more research since posting this, and found there are a plethora of potential areas of water ingress in this car, its a pain.

Boot tyre well, roof rail sealant, seals under bolts, gromits etc.

Today I think I found another - the wiring for the factory fitted rear parking sensors - for some reason they neglected to fit a gromit behind the wire loom, so it looks like water comes in there as well - located on boot up stand behind plastic trim that meets the boot lid.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/the-moob/20140302_150420_WeaverAve.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/the-moob/media/20140302_150420_WeaverAve.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: RichardA on March 05, 2015, 08:29:44 PM
Looks like I too have the water leak problem.

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Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: ayoungh on March 05, 2015, 09:23:59 PM
Hey,

Where is your suspected water source?

I have a leak in my boot also but it looks like my rear tail light on the passenger side is a little loose :(

I think I need to take the bumper off to have a better look.

Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: RichardA on March 08, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Bottom left corner of the boot, below the passenger rear light area.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: tonytan on March 08, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
My 2 Jazz's (2006 and 2007 GD series) both are suffering the exact same problem as Richard's. My easy (as well as lazy) solution was to drill a hole the size of approx 10mm at the lowest point on the boot floor so any water coming through will just drain straight out. I did apply plenty of sealant around the drilled hole area to prevent corrosion.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: guest2913 on March 08, 2015, 11:04:29 PM
Diy fix to leaking boot on 2002 to 2008 me and family done for else than a pound! Look at the pics, pour water over the roof check for leaks, add blue tack repeat again and add more until they no more leaks, its held for a year and still goibg strong!

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Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: guest4512 on March 09, 2015, 08:16:28 PM
That's an interesting way James,  has it worked out well?

I went to all the hassle of buying a special sealant etc
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: guest2913 on March 09, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
one year later and two jazz done like this, not a drop of water!, but like I said it takes time to get it right, hose pipe and spray all over the roof and back of car including sides and then dive straight in to the boot area and watch it drip, apply the blue tack where it was dripping, dry off with a towel and start again, you'll find the leak straight to appear where you last put the blue tack this is why it takes about 45 mins to do it, you might have to go almost half way across, once it stops leaking, leave it for 24 hours and next day spray all over the back and see if it leaks, if your successful it shouldn't, a year later hopefully like we found out, no leaks at all! :D the best thing me and grandad found funny was on the back of blue tack pack it said "use me to fix leaks" and it did what it said! haha
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: guest4512 on March 09, 2015, 09:02:50 PM
Quality
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets
Post by: guest3252 on May 25, 2015, 11:26:00 AM
Hi Noodle,

The culprit is the roof seam sealant.  seems like Honda has been tricked when they procure the seam sealant material for the purpose . The flexibility seems to be not as what they have expected.  PM your email I'll send photos n the stuff you need ...  :-X
Hi could you tell me what u used to fix the leak prob on ur jazz. I have rusty rear seat hinges.thanks
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: guest4512 on May 25, 2015, 12:52:24 PM
There's a product called Silkaflex,  but there are alternatives,  see here -  http://www.eurocarparts.com/mobile/sealant (http://www.eurocarparts.com/mobile/sealant)
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: culzean on July 29, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
My 2 Jazz's (2006 and 2007 GD series) both are suffering the exact same problem as Richard's. My easy (as well as lazy) solution was to drill a hole the size of approx 10mm at the lowest point on the boot floor so any water coming through will just drain straight out. I did apply plenty of sealant around the drilled hole area to prevent corrosion.

Did the same in my wifes former GD when I noticed windows misting up inside when it was parked - turned out to be half inch of water in wheel well - 5 minutes with the trusty DeWalt and a 6mm drill - never had a problem after that.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: Jack Reacher on November 25, 2019, 05:21:26 PM
Hi all, new user but on 3rd Jazz, and yes water in spare wheel well, got cracks in the roof mastic under the roof rubbers, mine is a vtec 1.4 Mk3, UK honda dealers were a waste of time but a technician took a quick look and pointed out the cracks.
I find it outrageous that this problem still goes on so many years after it came to light 
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: culzean on November 25, 2019, 06:57:06 PM
We can blame EU directives for the degrading of sealants and paints ... their rules on VOC ( volatile organic compounds ) meant that proper paints could no longer be manufactured, I guess same with sealants - the modern ones seem to inferior to older ones.. same with no brainer plan about adding ethanol to petrol which corrodes the system and attracts water, causing many problems that should not exist, and the EU seems to accept the fact that rainforest is chopped down to provide land for growing sugar cane and maize to produce the ethanol... the lunatics have truly taken over the asylum....

I used to creosote wooden sheds and fences, which lasted ages, not allowed to use creosote anymore, instead have to pay or more expensive inferior products that need re-applying every year or so..
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: E27006 on May 13, 2021, 06:03:58 PM
 I believed the leaks affected the Jazz cars assembled in China, Japanese assembled cars were not affected and the changeover for source of manufacture  was around 2008,  The failure is believed to be of a mastic panel-to-panel sealing compound which cracks and brittles in UK winter  temperatures allowing water  to seep between the body panels of the rear of the car
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: RichardA on May 23, 2021, 11:39:43 AM
My Jazz was made in Japan and has the wet boot problem.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: Jocko on May 23, 2021, 02:38:49 PM
Flaky paint seems to be a Mk 2 issue.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: KJazz on May 25, 2021, 05:56:40 PM
2003
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: Masiedog on August 24, 2021, 07:07:06 PM
We have a 2005 SE version that had water in the boot when we bought it we innocently thought that the boot had been open for some reason at the time as it was raining heavy for a while , yes we can be gullible . But as we had had it a few days we still had this problem even after i had mopped it all up previous , it was getting worrying, i had the boot seal off, the back lights off , and the roof trim removed and cleaned the guttering there but couldn't trace it, it looked all fine then a few day's back on a dry day i got the hosepipe out and worked a slow stream of water from the lights up nothing ! Arggh, then i focused near the rear of the roof trim in the gutter where the rubberised strip lies right at the rear near the boot hinge the water appeared " got you " i thought YES there was a hairline crack in the mastic seal next to the rubber boot supplying the electrics to the boot hatch and same on the opposite side .
I applied some caravan mastic and it solved the water ingress so from my experience check this area first as it was not obvious and hard to get to.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: Jocko on August 24, 2021, 07:49:49 PM
Yes, that's the standard place for a leak on a Mk1 Jazz.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: under on July 22, 2022, 02:41:55 PM
I believed the leaks affected the Jazz cars assembled in China, Japanese assembled cars were not affected and the changeover for source of manufacture  was around 2008,  The failure is believed to be of a mastic panel-to-panel sealing compound which cracks and brittles in UK winter  temperatures allowing water  to seep between the body panels of the rear of the car

For me any mk1 version could be subject to the problem regardless of the year of manufacture. In 2005, 2006, 2007 or 2008 the assembly pieces remained the same.
Title: Re: Water in the boot / wet carpets (Honda Jazz 2002-2008)
Post by: Jocko on July 22, 2022, 05:08:54 PM
It depends on how well the mastic was applied, not on the parts used. It appears to be a Quality Control issue.