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Title: Dash board reflection
Post by: edam on June 16, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
Does the MK4 have the same problem as earlier models with the dashboard reflecting onto the wind screen?
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Kenneve on June 16, 2021, 04:41:09 PM
I have no problems with the Mk4 screen/reflections.
Having said that, I’ve had no problems with the previous Mk3 & Mk2 cars, although I’ve never polished the dashboard.

Maybe it’s because I have the seat set to Max height and I’m not a particularly short guy 5ft 10”. I just like to sit high up, having come from a 4x4 background.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: edam on June 16, 2021, 05:44:07 PM
Other than using black felt sheets on the dashboard I have never found anything else that worked.
Its strange that its only some drivers which notice it .
I like the MK4 but if I get the same reflections I wont buy one
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: guest10167 on June 16, 2021, 05:47:28 PM
Must say I haven’t really payed attention to this, but also haven’t noticed it so far, so I guess it’s no problem.
Thinking about it, the dash is one big flat surface with only two thin air vents under the wind screen and a small temperature sensor in the middle, so there’s not much to cause annoying reflections.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: toolroomboy on June 16, 2021, 06:16:10 PM
No issues for me.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: John Ratsey on June 16, 2021, 06:54:13 PM
In my experience the Mk 2 was the worst for this, the Mk 3 was better and the Mk 4 is better still. However, my eyes are much happier if I remember to put on my polaroids if driving on a sunny day although it's not dangerous if I forget to do so.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: edam on June 16, 2021, 07:09:26 PM
It is dngerous for me if I dont have the felt or poloriods
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: chicksee on June 16, 2021, 09:29:56 PM
Never noticed so can’t be a problem for me.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: nowster on June 16, 2021, 09:52:36 PM
I've not been driving mine in sunny weather long enough to be absolutely sure. I haven't noticed much dazzle from the dash. The angles are different from the Mk2, which does affect how much reflection there is. I also routinely wear polarized sunglasses in sunny weather which used to help a lot with the Mk2.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Jazzik on June 16, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
It is dngerous for me if I dont have the felt or poloriods

Maybe try looking through the windscreen instead of looking at the windscreen...  8)
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: sportse on June 17, 2021, 05:27:35 AM
You can get a can or pack of Simoniz Matt dash spray/wipes from Amazon or Halfords.

I had the problem on a earlier car, caused by a ‘valet’ before delivery where they must have used some cheap cleaner/furniture polish.

All the plastics were shiny until I’d cleaned them properly and removed their treatment.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Kremmen on June 17, 2021, 05:37:27 AM
As per another post. I accidentally polished mine during cleaning but some ArmorAll matt wipes fixed it.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: guest9236 on June 17, 2021, 09:40:40 AM
It is dngerous for me if I dont have the felt or poloriods

Maybe try looking through the windscreen instead of looking at the windscreen...  8)
How smart such a SIMPLE SOLUTION 
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: culzean on June 17, 2021, 10:37:30 AM
It is dngerous for me if I dont have the felt or poloriods

Maybe try looking through the windscreen instead of looking at the windscreen...  8)
How smart such a SIMPLE SOLUTION

You are still seeing the very annoying reflection,  it is like a head up display......
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Jazzik on June 17, 2021, 11:19:57 AM
It is dngerous for me if I dont have the felt or poloriods

Maybe try looking through the windscreen instead of looking at the windscreen...  8)
How smart such a SIMPLE SOLUTION

You are still seeing the very annoying reflection,  it is like a head up display......

That means, if I follow your reasoning, that a head up display is also "very annoying" and according to others here dangerous?
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: culzean on June 17, 2021, 11:36:02 AM
It is dngerous for me if I dont have the felt or poloriods

Maybe try looking through the windscreen instead of looking at the windscreen...  8)
How smart such a SIMPLE SOLUTION

You are still seeing the very annoying reflection,  it is like a head up display......

That means, if I follow your reasoning, that a head up display is also "very annoying" and according to others here dangerous?

In the rare case where one is fitted a head up display only covers a small area,  the reflections in MK2 Jazz cover pretty much the whole 'A zone' area above the limits of steering wheel rim ( the area in which you are not allowed to mount any equipment such as satnavs and dashcams and if you have a windscreen chip the vehicle will fail MOT).  Why doesn't Euro NCAP cover things like the reflection od badly designed dash in the windscreen.  The Civic is so much more relaxing to drive because it doesn't have the horrible reflection.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: edam on June 17, 2021, 03:15:26 PM
I like the head up display description which is exactly how it looks.
Going back to the original question does the MK4 have this problem.
I have asked a couple of salesmen who have said it doesn,t but they have never seen it on a MK3 either
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: bill ericay on June 17, 2021, 04:28:52 PM
I don't think it's been mentioned yet , but when I had my Jazz, some members were buying special fitted dash mats from AlieExpress to fix this problem. Perhaps a search will find this.
I sometimes had the problem in my Jazz, and would suggest height of the driver is a factor-- possibly taller drivers are looking through the screen at a different angle so would not see the reflection. I am definitely not one of the taller drivers !
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: John Ratsey on June 17, 2021, 06:25:25 PM
I sometimes had the problem in my Jazz, and would suggest height of the driver is a factor-- possibly taller drivers are looking through the screen at a different angle so would not see the reflection. I am definitely not one of the taller drivers !
More accurately it's the position of the eyes combined with the slope of the windscreen. The problem is worse on the Jazz than on many other vehicles because the windscreen is set well forwards to maximise internior space and this results in a long dashboard.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Jocko on June 17, 2021, 08:39:08 PM
possibly taller drivers are looking through the screen at a different angle so would not see the reflection.
I am 6' 1" tall and the reflections on my Mk 1 Jazz are terrible. They never prevent me from seeing what is ahead but were very annoying, to begin with. Now, like floaters in your vision, I seldom notice them.


(https://i.imgur.com/zX9l4tV.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: nowster on June 18, 2021, 09:04:56 AM
Going back to the original question does the MK4 have this problem.
The angle is much flatter in the Mk4, but it definitely has a strong dash board reflection if the sun is low. I experienced this yesterday evening.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: NoelM on June 18, 2021, 09:21:33 AM
Just found this https://gbr.grandado.com/products/dash-mat-dashmat-for-honda-jazz-fit-anti-slip-mat-dashboard-cover-pad-sunshade-dashmat-carpet-accessories?variant=38238943051925&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4ofx3t-g8QIVZ4ODBx22JQQqEAQYASABEgJUQfD_BwE
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: sportse on May 28, 2022, 12:08:25 PM
After using Tesco matt dash cleaner (recommended on here), I don't really have any issues with reflections in my car.

However, I had a crosstar loan car last week and the reflections are awful in that - driving early morning with low sun it's really bad.

Likely they have used some type of cleaner that causes the reflections. Or it hasn't been cleaned and that's how it was from the factory.

(I've also noticed that Honda sets the headlights too high on the cars in the factory - mine were too high before the first service, and the ones on the crosstar are the same.)
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Worthingmike on May 28, 2022, 12:59:42 PM
I dont have a problem with the jazz. I dont think I have ever owned a car which didnt have some reflection in the windscreen. But it has never been a problem. If you look at the windscreen then you can see a reflection but looking through i dont see it. Those cars with heated windscreen with the wires in can be very visible, but you dont notice them when driving as you are not looking at the windscreen but through it. .
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Jazzik on May 28, 2022, 03:37:06 PM
It's been almost a year since I wrote:

It is dngerous for me if I dont have the felt or poloriods

Maybe try looking through the windscreen instead of looking at the windscreen...  8)
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: sportse on May 28, 2022, 03:55:44 PM
Two cars driven back to back in the same conditions-

My own EX with the dashboard cleaned using Matt dash cleaner… no reflection issues.

Vs

A loan Crosstar EX that isn’t mine… awful dash reflections, the worst I’ve seen in a car.

I think they both use the same plastic for the dash, so it must be due to products applied to them.
Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: Kremmen on May 29, 2022, 08:22:49 AM
I've changed my dashboard glare solution to these bad boys :

(https://i.imgur.com/q8efDPS.jpg)

I think they do a slightly better job than the Tesco stuff but there's not a lot in it.

Title: Re: Dash board reflection
Post by: sportse on May 29, 2022, 09:21:28 AM
Here’s the reflection from an untreated crosstar dashboard with low sun.

On my own EX I wouldn’t even notice the reflections after matt dash treatment.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220529/eb18938328f5f685b43f63fa270ccdb5.jpg)