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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 => Topic started by: Babbington on June 14, 2021, 03:36:14 PM
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I went off for a drive to the south downs today. In the morning, with the sun in front ish of me, the refection from the top of the dash on the windscreen was at dangerous levels. If the road had not changed direction I think I would have had to stop and wait. Note that I'm not exaggerating: it was dangerous. I've only had the car less than a week, and I think the valet must have used some shiny dash cleaner on the top.
The internet says to consider a dash mat, but I'm unsure if what I've found will be good for my Jazz.
I have a 2018 1.3 ivtec SE. It's the face lift one.
So this is what I found on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B089FMPHBQ/?coliid=I2G232UV7X306O&colid=2B2WWY47P0OLU&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
It does say 2018, but did any of the face lift changes mean that this won't fit on my dash? Also, I'm not aware that anything changed in 2019, and this makes me think that by '2018' they only mean part of that year and not my car.
If anyone knows about my dash or has any other solution for dangerous glare, I would be grateful.
Cheers.
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The best fix is polarising sunglasses.
I found Mk 3 to be better than the Mk 2 for dashboard glare but I suspect that your diagnosis that the seller used some shiny cleaner to be correct. You could try rubbing the area with a moist nylon scouring pad.
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Totally agree with John, polarising sunglasses. I was absolutely amazed at the difference.
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Thank you both.
Hmmm... maybe this is a good excuse to buy myself some nice polarised lens aviators.
I have just been outside with the hand and surface sanitiser wipes that I have for Covid reasons. I read that the alcohol can get rid of the silicon. I also like John's 'nuclear option' of a gentle sanding. I read that acetone will cut through these silicon polishes, but I think that may be a little risky on the nice plastic.
I will keep rubbing with the wipes and looking for mat cleaning products.
I'm still interested though, if any other reader knows if that mat will fit my dash.
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+1 for Polaroid glasses. You shouldn't then also need a mat.
For the screen - use Bar Keepers Friend ... (don't use it over concrete as it may make a hole in the cement!)
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If you normally wear prescription glasses for driving these are a good option.
https://www.eyekeeper.com/products/large-clip-on-sunglasses-with-spring-draw-bar-polarized-c60?variant=32497583489090¤cy=GBP&utm_campaign=&utm_adgroup=&utm_medium=&msclkid=98b9a9ecb2771e021745c92bc9a43c53&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=uk-bing-test&utm_term=4585719404961098&utm_content=uk-bing-test
I use Armor All matt finish dash cleaner but this may be OK as well
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HG-Dashboard-Spray-Matt-Finish/dp/B004QV9JKG
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I would agree polarising glasses but try to remove the silicone spray that appears to be on your Dash ad use something like ODK Cabin which is superb!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383924061160?hash=item5963a843e8:g:jQIAAOSw1mdgmOPg
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I would agree polarising glasses but try to remove the silicone spray that appears to be on your Dash ad use something like ODK Cabin which is superb!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383924061160?hash=item5963a843e8:g:jQIAAOSw1mdgmOPg
In my experience only thing that will make any impact on Jazz regarding reflection in windscreen is a dashboard mat to completely take the shine off plastic, anything else is not effective ( except polarising glasses, but they have their own disadvantages like making the display on some LCD screens unreadable ) - There is little or no windscreen reflection in my Civic - looks like someone did a 'proper job' on designing it, my wifes MK2 Jazz is pretty bad in spite of the Armor All matt finish treatment.
dash mats were very popular in Australia when we were there,
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I found Sugar Soap good for taking the shine off the dash top.
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I had tried some matte dash polish but it didn't make much difference. Flip up sunglasses that fit on my spectacles (about a fiver on eBay) are great for going from bright sunlight into a tunnel of trees.
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Same experience here, dash reflection is bad. As a short term measure I used a piece of the non-slip woven type mesh mat stuff which works to some extent but does give a weave pattern in you field of view, better than glare but not ideal. I'll look into a proper dash-mat, thanks all for the suggestions. £18 odd isn't a big outlay even if it doesn't work out right.
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I found Sugar Soap good for taking the shine off the dash top.
A few days ago I noticed that Wickes sell a tub of sugar soap wipes. I'll buy some today and test in a safe corner of the dash first.
It sounds like a winning idea to at least get rid of the polish.
Thanks.
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I made the mistake of cleaning the dash once giving a glossy finish.
Got some Armor All Matt Wipes and they helped get it back.
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I stick A4 size black felt sheets , from Hobbycrafts, onto a non slip mesh mat. It not fixed to the dash so cant be used if using the windscreen demister vents .
I wonder if the MK4 has the same problem with the reflection. Will post on the other forum
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Following the post from edam above, I purchased a metre of 1.5m wide black craft felt from fleabay (item 310938609603 ) and a roll of non-slip mat from Wilko (1.5m x 50cm for £5). A bit tricky to get the shape absolutely right but using masking tape and patience and it's a good fit. Cut the felt, masked the edges, sprayed the back of the felt with foam contact adhesive (3M type 74, others available) and laid the non-slip mat on. Note I didn't spray the non-slip mat because with the holes it would go through to the side which would sit on the dash panel.
Excellent result, the difference is the proverbial night and day. Almost no reflection at all from the felt, well worth the effort.
You could get away with doing a much smaller area than I did, but covering most of the top means it doesn't immediately look like an afterthought. Just needs a slight trim here and there, I'll reduce it a bit just to the left of the centre vents so it sits flatter, and some holes for the screen vents.
(https://am3pap007files.storage.live.com/y4pKsxpNzHH2zIZTGcYa4BGvKm6Hmyarp_lmpBqv0boeUB8eXsM8sA1catB5mwFFk3wZNDGCxW6uBubwzjHTIPgKiFezJYFXDet8i3SHLSW2DZnVwJQ_Au7IjzzUo9sUkEPrHk8qIjSksdokAi3wBn0r6CowKjAMDCmlnIH6k4o86gVMfa72ClwPjEpK-Zz4DbSDUGUg_8BzWKEtwjOvoM-yIGHWSidpgG9hV6Grys86z0/IMG_6361red.jpg?psid=1&width=1000&height=750)
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But WHY should we have to do this !!!!!!!
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I sent for a Dash Mat from Ebay which cuts dash reflection. needed to use additional sticky pads but fits fine, did cut apperture for headlight sensor a bit bigger to ensure it didn't get false reading. Also protects from sun damage to dash top.
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But WHY should we have to do this !!!!!!!
Because of large inclined windshield and large too shiny dash top area?
I wish there were anti reflection coating inside the window, similar to spectacles.
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It’s the one thing that annoys me about the jazz, but it’s something I can live with… does seem to be a bit of a design oversight however.
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I would agree polarising glasses but try to remove the silicone spray that appears to be on your Dash ad use something like ODK Cabin which is superb!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383924061160?hash=item5963a843e8:g:jQIAAOSw1mdgmOPg
In my experience only thing that will make any impact on Jazz regarding reflection in windscreen is a dashboard mat to completely take the shine off plastic, anything else is not effective ( except polarising glasses, but they have their own disadvantages like making the display on some LCD screens unreadable ) - There is little or no windscreen reflection in my Civic - looks like someone did a 'proper job' on designing it, my wifes MK2 Jazz is pretty bad in spite of the Armor All matt finish treatment.
dash mats were very popular in Australia when we were there,
Sorry mate, I don't get it. I use ODK without any problems at all and where I live in Lincs we have the big wide skies with lots of glaring sun.
I get what you say about Australia having lived near Sydney for 10 years but the dash mats were largely to stop the sun wrecking the plastics as it does.
Each to his own but I'd hate the thought of riding round with a mat covering the dash.
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But WHY should we have to do this !!!!!!!
Because of large inclined windshield and large too shiny dash top area?
I wish there were anti reflection coating inside the window, similar to spectacles.
The large windscreens and huge dash area are main reason why aircon is now a requirement on cars, all that black surface absorbing the sun.
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If only they didn't design in a horizontal dash top but angled it upwards towards the driver so all you could mostly see is the edge.
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I'm pretty sure that the issue I was having in those first few days were, as suspected, due to the valet using some interior polish laced with silicone.
Now that I've spent time with the alcohol infused anti covid wipes and a good cleaning with sugar soap, the car is prone to reflections on the screen from the dash but nothing like on that first day.
It's not something I've encountered before, but really people need to remember not to use the shiny stuff on their dash. It could be truly deadly in a Jazz.
It's now a little annoyance rather than a significant safety factor.
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I sympathise with you as the modern design of cars mean that in certain circumstances the reflection on the glass from the dashboard makes driving more hazardous because the sun's shadows can easily conceal a potential problems hiding in the shade.
I 1st encountered this with my Mazda 2 Skyactive as the joints in the dash were horrific when the sun came out and that was cured with a dashmat obtained from Australia. I now have a Crosstar and while there are no joints, the reflections do indeed affect the view making it sort of milky. A dashmat from China at £13.50p has sorted that out.
The mats do not move, they do not cover the vents and they also stop the sun shining on the plastic which will crack in time but more importantly stops the oil in the plastic from evaporating and helps keep the screen clean thus making the viewing ahead clearer for longer. While windscreens are raked so severely, I will continue to be as safe as I can be especially as there are more cyclist about who do not wear bright clothing.
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Had same problem with 2016 1.3 S CVT. Tried matt dash cleaner - rubbish - tried pieces of black felt.....improved greatly but looked rubbish. Eventually bought a dash mat - exact fit for my year of Jazz. Have had this on and it works fantastically, looks fine, is made so that air bags still work unhindered. Did find I needed to add some sticky pads over and above those supplied.
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I bought some heavy duty matt black fabric and cut it to suit the dash. No problem since.
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Hi Babbington.
I bought one for my 2018 Jazz sport, and to be perfectly honest, yes, it does cut out the glare from reflection on the windscreen, but to be honest, I think that you are using a hammer to crack an egg with this. I bought it to protect the dash from breaking up due to strong sunlight/UV with age, but I was probably influenced by seeing many cars from certain areas in the USA with extensive dash material damage due to the climate there. Not really a problem here, as we could only pray for half of the sunshine they get , here in UK!
The cover I got, was same as the one you sent a link to, right hand drive, suitable for Jazz Mk 3, same company and price. Cut outs for windscreen air vents and all other air vents are a bit of a pain to line up properly, and my cover was NOT silicon backed as advertised, it came with Velcro square sticky pads to attach it. I have not used the Velcro to attach it, but just laid it on the dash. It took 6 weeks to arrive from China due to flood losses earlier in the year, so be aware of delay! I would probably just take the advice of other members on this post, and get with the dash cleaner anti-shine or nice new sunglasses, unless you really must have a removable cover. Good luck! :-)
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I bought a cover from US and tried it once, but I didn't like how it looks. I think it's too thick to take the shape of the dash nicely. I have been planning to try a simple black terry towel, but didn't got it done last summer. Now there will not be that problem until April or May.
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I bought a cover from US and tried it once, but I didn't like how it looks. I think it's too thick to take the shape of the dash nicely. I have been planning to try a simple black terry towel, but didn't got it done last summer. Now there will not be that problem until April or May.
Polarising sun glasses are the real answer, if you wear glasses you can get clip-on ones
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IUJ5AO4/
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I bought a cover from US and tried it once, but I didn't like how it looks. I think it's too thick to take the shape of the dash nicely. I have been planning to try a simple black terry towel, but didn't got it done last summer. Now there will not be that problem until April or May.
Polarising sun glasses are the real answer, if you wear glasses you can get clip-on ones
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IUJ5AO4/
Polarizing sunglasses do reduce the reflection, but the dashboard reflection blinds the shadow areas of the road even in less bright days, when sunglasses are not desired. Besides, I don't like to use sunglasses.
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I bought a cover from US and tried it once, but I didn't like how it looks. I think it's too thick to take the shape of the dash nicely. I have been planning to try a simple black terry towel, but didn't got it done last summer. Now there will not be that problem until April or May.
Polarising sun glasses are the real answer, if you wear glasses you can get clip-on ones
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IUJ5AO4/
Polarizing sunglasses do reduce the reflection, but the dashboard reflection blinds the shadow areas of the road even in less bright days, when sunglasses are not desired. Besides, I don't like to use sunglasses.
The clip-ons I use barely have a tint in them ( I only want the polarising bit ), and can actually increase contrast on duller days - you can get light yellow tinted polarised 'driving glasses' which are actually safer in low light.
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I'm glad it works for you. I'm rather looking for solutions to reduce the reflection itself.
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This is the stuff I bought.
From here https://aemarket.co.uk/
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How about black silicon table placemats?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08THNSYGQ/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B08THNSYGQ&pd_rd_w=mDulx&pf_rd_p=a8d38b47-cfdf-4208-95a0-1af779cb6e7d&pd_rd_wg=QoHkv&pf_rd_r=3SH4XFXAGFT57E8GMPJP&pd_rd_r=df117470-04aa-4508-a4c3-5cc9170e892c&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNUlFUDhDNjY1OExHJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODU0NjU3MzFOSVIzRE1HNU44MyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTY3NzQzQU1INEFBUEhPOUxSJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
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A Dash Mat is the way to go. Fitted mine 4 years ago on 2016 Mk3 and improvement was instant and fantastic. Also only needs a quick vac every now and then and protects the dash from sun damage. Ordered mine from Australia but WISH seem to have them now. Trawl the net.
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Hi Folks.
Only thing I would advise if fitting a dash mat purchased specifically for your model of Jazz/Fit, is to make sure that the cut-outs in the mat do not obscure windscreen clearing vents and sensors. The mat that I purchased online was of decent quality, but stated that backing was silicone, and did not rely on adhesive Velcro pads to secure it down to the dash. When it arrived, the backing was not silicone and relied on Velcro fixing pads. Returning item was not really cost effective, so I've kept it. Although all cut-outs were all there, they do not line up very well, and I have decided to remove the cover during the winter because it seems to compromise demisting on cold windows.
Will put dash mat back once warm sunny weather arrives, fingers crossed!
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I used non-slip matting under my home brewed dash-mat, I got it from Wilko but it's available widely. I've had absolutely no issues with it moving. May be worth a try. https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-non-slip-cushion-mat-45-x-125cm/p/0507531
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Got one from Ali Express. Arrived today
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Perfect fit and a good price @ £15 delivered
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Hello NoelM,
I am looking for a dash mat for my 2016 EX Navi
Please could you provide a link to the one you purchased and maybe a photo or two?
Do you think the mat allows the air bags to operate normally?
Thank's for your advice much appreciated
FredS