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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: What's wrong with the i-Shift gearbox?
« Last post by 123Drive! on February 24, 2018, 11:24:26 PM »
I have a 2009 ES. Brought it in 2012 with 22k miles on the clock. Having had bad previous experience with semi auto Toyota MMT, my mechanic thought I was crazy going for the i-Shift but it was within my budget. The gear change from 1st to 2nd from a cold engine is very jerky, but apart from that I can live it. It creeps better than the Toyota but can be unpredictable. The manual paddles are quite fun too except the engine is a bit weak for that. Unfortunately, three weeks ago, it suffered a breakdown with the actuator! It now has 80k miles. Honda wanted 2k to fix it but luckily with the help from this forum, I found a mechanic to repair it for 320! I would say get a low mileage one if you can. Many Civic i-Shift have also suffer from breakdowns. (Please read my tread-i-shift failure.) The breakdown came with no warning-my car has been well maintained and serviced. The above mechanic said to avoid this problem, have the car relearned the gearbox every 20k miles.
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New Members / Re: Just about to start looking for our first Jazz
« Last post by peteo48 on February 24, 2018, 10:12:49 PM »
Good point about the extra costs of servicing a CVT. Fluid changes add quite a bit to the service charge when due. About 80.
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: ****WARNING***
« Last post by ColinS on February 24, 2018, 10:03:31 PM »
The green tick it probably just checking that the security certificate is valid.  It really is not difficult to get a secure certificate on your website.  And I expect if you read the small print, they ask for permission to use your details for marketing purposes.

Unfortunately most people just tick the "I agree" box without reading it.  So easy to do and normally the default option.  They are most likely a legitimate site making money to fund themselves by selling on customer data.  And no I don't condone the practice.

The number of times I have this conversation with my customers.  The process can't be stopped, otherwise you would not be able to sign up for anything.  A far bigger issue is being tricked into downloading and installing programs which turn out to be Viruses or Trojans.

Stay safe!
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: What MPG are you getting from your Mk1 Honda Jazz ?
« Last post by ob13 on February 24, 2018, 09:39:12 PM »
Can see why it gets called the fibometer! on my normal local running about the gauge consistently shows between 34 and 37 since i got it 2 months ago,which to be fair i thought was pretty reasonable. Today i filled up again having covered just under 200 miles and worked that out as 43.6 mpg(36.8mpg on dash).This was the first time i checked.Only a few less than i used to get out my diesel that i replaced so with unleaded being a few pence cheaper it must cost about the same.

The one time i went on a slightly longer run of about 25 miles each way i reset the dash and it showed about 46mpg i think, so hopefully this could be over 50.
Not been on a motorway trip yet but guessing with the autobox it will revving its nuts off to keep a decent speed and this mpg will drop a bit?


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New Members / Re: Just about to start looking for our first Jazz
« Last post by TG on February 24, 2018, 09:34:40 PM »
Mk1 looks a bit old now, but has a good torque-y engine especially in 1.4 versions. MK2 is more refined a bit more comfortable and has a good under floor storage area in the boot.  I-shift is a robotised manual gearbox so you can drive it on the paddles all the time if you wish, but it will be sensible and change up/down when needed. I think if you use the throttle like a manual in full auto mode then some gear changes happen at times when a driver might not have performed them. In the manual you would have lifted at the change but not the case in the i-shift so can be a little jerky until you adapt your style.  This is common across other makes with robotised manual gearboxes.

For the same money I'd pick an i-shift MK2 over a CVT Mk1, especially when you consider there are 15 plate Mk2s knocking around so that body will continue to look a lot newer than the Mk1 in a few years.

One last thing CVT costs more to service as CVT fluid should be changed every 2 years, if you find a bargain jerky one then it's an easy fix with a flush & refill of the correct fluid to replace the expired stuff.
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TG
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Radio Code grrrrr
« Last post by TG on February 24, 2018, 09:16:32 PM »
Try 33124
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TG
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New Members / Re: Just about to start looking for our first Jazz
« Last post by Jocko on February 24, 2018, 09:14:31 PM »
Nothing wrong with a late Mk 1. I have a manual, 56 plate, with 100,000+ miles on the clock and it is a great car. You can see my average mpg during my time with the car (18 months), at the LH side under my avatar.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Would the Mk3 benefit from premium petrol?
« Last post by Jocko on February 24, 2018, 09:07:50 PM »
I saw a classic motorbike website a while ago with a list of fuels that did not contain ethanol.
I've seen that too (it appears to be a reprint of info I've seen from several years earlier) It is not the case in Scotland. All fuel in Scotland is supplies from Grangemouth and I believe Ethanol is added as a matter of course.
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New Members / Re: Just about to start looking for our first Jazz
« Last post by peteo48 on February 24, 2018, 09:03:32 PM »
Hope you find something within your budget. I have never had an I Shift - some like them, others don't but as the new owner of a CVT who was previously very sceptical about them, I am now a convert.
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: 2012 EX - best tyres?
« Last post by culzean on February 24, 2018, 08:27:06 PM »
I used Michelin ES for many years,  I knew they were not the grippiest of tyres but good wear,  they often felt 'squirmy' and lost a bit of directional stability 'when making good progress'.

I noticed the difference with Avon straight away,  the ZV7 tyre has only been on sale less than 2 years and is a new design and material.  Better grip than Michelin and very good directional stability and not at all 'squirmy'.   Bear in mind when reading European tyre tests that they always seen to put European brands first (especially Continental,  which I took off one of my motorbikes because they were crap,  and don't always get good reviews from buyers).
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