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Title: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: barcam on July 03, 2018, 08:41:30 AM
I can't believe it, I have actually found a Road Tester apart from Honest John who likes the Honda Jazz.

https://www.money4yourmotors.com/car-reviews/10870/honda/honda-jazz
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: donerkebab on July 03, 2018, 04:09:25 PM
Maybe just me but I cannot find this ECO mode button than the reviewer is on about.....see them in Renault though
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Jocko on July 03, 2018, 04:23:06 PM
He doesn't refer to an Eco button but the backlight on the speedometer that turns green when you are at the economy sweet spot. The 67 plate SE, I had on loan, had that. I had to look it up, on the internet, to see what it meant.
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Post by: donerkebab on July 03, 2018, 04:56:04 PM
Ah ok I do notice it going green around the speedo - didnt realise what it meant
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: mcderd on July 03, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
He says "changes the backlight colour of the speedometer from white to green" actually it has two shades of blue and one of green.

Dark blue (least economical)
Light blue (better)
Green (most economical)

Not sure where he got white from?
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: culzean on July 03, 2018, 06:48:53 PM
He says "changes the backlight colour of the speedometer from white to green" actually it has two shades of blue and one of green.

Dark blue (least economical)
Light blue (better)
Green (most economical)

Not sure where he got white from?

IMHO......

red for least economical,
orange for better 
green for most economical

would be much more intuitive.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Downsizer on July 03, 2018, 06:52:53 PM
Curiously, he suggests the cvt is only useful for urban use.  I find the low revs of the cvt at motorway speeds is a great asset.  Another curiosity in the review is the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: guest6630 on July 03, 2018, 07:00:03 PM
Do you know you can change the colours on this l am sure it goes from orange or pink to purple.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: andruec on July 03, 2018, 08:04:57 PM
He says "changes the backlight colour of the speedometer from white to green" actually it has two shades of blue and one of green.

Dark blue (least economical)
Light blue (better)
Green (most economical)

Not sure where he got white from?
Mine has two shades of both. Dark blue, light blue, light green and bright green.

For what it's worth though it's only the latest iteration of something that every Honda I've owned has had. The Jazz is the first I've seen with such a 'fancy' colour scheme but they've always had some kind of indicator. Previous models (going back to my first Honda a 6th gen Civic) had a green 'Eco' indicator.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Jocko on July 03, 2018, 09:19:06 PM
For what it's worth though it's only the latest iteration of something that every Honda I've owned has had.
The Mk 1 Jazz doesn't have anything, at least not on the S. Would be handy for some.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Skyrider on July 03, 2018, 09:22:29 PM
I didn't realise they went green, mine are usually shades of blue, often dark blue. :-)
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Skyrider on July 03, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
I get the impression that the tester did not drive a 1.3.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: andruec on July 03, 2018, 09:36:05 PM
For what it's worth though it's only the latest iteration of something that every Honda I've owned has had.
The Mk 1 Jazz doesn't have anything, at least not on the S. Would be handy for some.
I'm pretty sure mine did, but it was the CVT-7 Sport which if I remember correctly was top of the range back then. Although seems odd if they only put that light on the Sport edition :-/
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: peteo48 on July 03, 2018, 10:11:05 PM
Curiously, he suggests the cvt is only useful for urban use.  I find the low revs of the cvt at motorway speeds is a great asset.  Another curiosity in the review is the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!

Good point. 2000 rpm at 70. A very relaxed motorway cruiser that's also good round town. Oddly the odd bit of motoring that isn't urban for me are short motorway bursts. A look at a map of where I live (Warrington) will show you what I mean.

I think it might get a bit frustrating if you did a lot of driving on A class roads out in the country.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Skyrider on July 03, 2018, 10:32:34 PM
Curiously, he suggests the cvt is only useful for urban use.  I find the low revs of the cvt at motorway speeds is a great asset.  Another curiosity in the review is the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!

Good point. 2000 rpm at 70. A very relaxed motorway cruiser that's also good round town. Oddly the odd bit of motoring that isn't urban for me are short motorway bursts. A look at a map of where I live (Warrington) will show you what I mean.

I think it might get a bit frustrating if you did a lot of driving on A class roads out in the country.

I don't have any problems on A roads, motorways, or with urban use. I did a 70 mile round trip on motorways today, tomorrow a 60 mile round trip on A roads, Thursday will be local running about, Saturday and Sunday I drive to London, 400 miles of motorway with heavy urban traffic on arrival. The Jazz is versatile and capable of handling it all with ease. I have done that sort of journey in both the 1.3 and 1.5, it is just more relaxed and comfortable progress in the 1.5.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: andruec on July 03, 2018, 10:41:22 PM
Curiously, he suggests the cvt is only useful for urban use.  I find the low revs of the cvt at motorway speeds is a great asset.  Another curiosity in the review is the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!

Good point. 2000 rpm at 70. A very relaxed motorway cruiser that's also good round town. Oddly the odd bit of motoring that isn't urban for me are short motorway bursts. A look at a map of where I live (Warrington) will show you what I mean.

I think it might get a bit frustrating if you did a lot of driving on A class roads out in the country.
I don't find it so, but then I don't tend to rush about anyway. I can easily keep up with other traffic (and am usually held up by them on bends) but if I need to get a move on it responds well enough to the accelerator. I live in a small rural town (albeit not far from the M40 and half way between Birmingham and London) so most of my driving is on rural main roads.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Jocko on July 04, 2018, 06:53:25 AM
the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!
Not in the Oxford English dictionary.
]I'm pretty sure mine did, but it was the CVT-7 Sport which if I remember correctly was top of the range back then. Although seems odd if they only put that light on the Sport edition :-/
It is not in the Owners handbook (08) for any version of the Mk 1 Jazz. Found an online version here
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/811004/Honda-Jazz.html?page=89#manual (https://www.manualslib.com/manual/811004/Honda-Jazz.html?page=89#manual)
and it is not on any dashboard configuration shown (pages 86 - 90)
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: mikebore on July 04, 2018, 07:07:27 AM
Do you know you can change the colours on this l am sure it goes from orange or pink to purple.

When I first got my Mk3 I tried to change the colours as in the manual, but it didn't work. There was a thread about it and others confirmed. I haven't tried since, but I have had some software updates (infotainment) since last trying so is it working now?

I agree with suggestion red/orange/green would much more intuitive. Even just orange/green. Blue conveys nothing.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: barcam on July 04, 2018, 07:46:57 AM
Curiously, he suggests the cvt is only useful for urban use.  I find the low revs of the cvt at motorway speeds is a great asset.  Another curiosity in the review is the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!

I was on the motorway with the Wife doing 70mph, I asked is this quieter than my old Fiesta 2015 ecoboostat at this speed, yes said my Wife, so what more can I say. The rev-counter was showing just over 2200 revs with the throttle eased back for cruising, no cruise control. I believe the CVT version is higher geared than the manual.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Skyrider on July 04, 2018, 08:31:09 AM
Curiously, he suggests the cvt is only useful for urban use.  I find the low revs of the cvt at motorway speeds is a great asset.  Another curiosity in the review is the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!

I was on the motorway with the Wife doing 70mph, I asked is this quieter than my old Fiesta 2015 ecoboostat at this speed, yes said my Wife, so what more can I say. The rev-counter was showing just over 2200 revs with the throttle eased back for cruising, no cruise control. I believe the CVT version is higher geared than the manual.

I have found the 2018 model to be quieter than my 2016 car, it is probably the stiffer bodyshell and improved sound insulation. I have had the facelift car for eight weeks but keep noticing things that work, feel, or sound subtly different to the previous car even ignoring the change to a bigger engine and CVT.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: andruec on July 04, 2018, 08:31:37 AM
the word "feelsome" about the steering - I've never seen this word before!
Not in the Oxford English dictionary.
]I'm pretty sure mine did, but it was the CVT-7 Sport which if I remember correctly was top of the range back then. Although seems odd if they only put that light on the Sport edition :-/
It is not in the Owners handbook (08) for any version of the Mk 1 Jazz. Found an online version here
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/811004/Honda-Jazz.html?page=89#manual (https://www.manualslib.com/manual/811004/Honda-Jazz.html?page=89#manual)
and it is not on any dashboard configuration shown (pages 86 - 90)
My memory is playing tricks on me then. Oh well.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: mcderd on July 04, 2018, 09:36:32 AM

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Mine has two shades of both. Dark blue, light blue, light green and bright green.

That's interesting, the manual says two blue and one green, I will look at mine more intently next time I go out. I must admit before I read the manual I thought it was just blue or green, did not realise there were two shades of blue.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: andruec on July 04, 2018, 11:07:23 AM

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Mine has two shades of both. Dark blue, light blue, light green and bright green.

That's interesting, the manual says two blue and one green, I will look at mine more intently next time I go out. I must admit before I read the manual I thought it was just blue or green, did not realise there were two shades of blue.
Maybe I'm wrong about that as well :-/

I don't really pay it much attention since there's not much I can do about it. I don't control the gear ratio and either I want the power and it's blue or I don't and it's (probably) green. There are usually far more important things to be paying attention to ;)
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Skyrider on July 04, 2018, 12:25:11 PM
+1

The only reason I have not turned them off is the management likes the pretty lights!
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Post by: peteo48 on July 04, 2018, 12:29:59 PM
+1 for me as well.

I'd developed an unhealthy obsession with the ECO light and the gear shifter indicators on my MK2. I hardly notice the lights on the Mk3.


I might even be paying more attention to the road!!
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: andruec on July 04, 2018, 04:51:58 PM
I tried to keep an eye on it this afternoon and it does appear to be two blue, one green.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Skyrider on July 04, 2018, 04:57:37 PM
I tried to keep an eye on it this afternoon and it does appear to be two blue, one green.

That's what mine does.
Title: Re: A Favorable Honda Jazz Road Test Review For Once
Post by: Downsizer on July 19, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
I tried to keep an eye on it this afternoon and it does appear to be two blue, one green.

That's what mine does.
This thread has prompted me to delve into the menus, where the only option offered
for the fuel economy backlight is "on or off".  I don't find it helpful so I turned it off, but it doesn't go off - it simply stays blue all the time!