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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 => Topic started by: guest6609 on February 05, 2017, 11:01:55 AM
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Hi
I noticed today on the multi-function display that there is a LIM symbol on the top left of the display, which I have not noticed before, so think it must be new...anybody knows what this means?
I looked in the handbook but can't find reference to it.
Thanks in advance
Neil
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Automatic speed limiter - it will read the speed on the road signs and try to stop you going any faster (unless you really put your foot down). It's explained in the handbook somewhere. I've never tried using this function but did find useful (i) the display of the last speed limit sign and (ii) a little 'ping' when accelerating through 30 mph (as once the Mk 3 gets going it easily gets over the 30 mph limit).
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Interesting. How does it try to stop you going any faster?
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There are two speed limiters, referred to as Adjustable and Intelligent, (linked to the speed sign reader). See pages 417 to 427 in the user manual. I have no idea how they work, I have not used them as I prefer cruise control.
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Fully discussed here http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=8617.msg44145#msg44145 (http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=8617.msg44145#msg44145). I still think it's amazing after 12,500 miles.
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Have to confess to giving an Audi a bit of a fright on the way back from golf today. I followed the Audi onto the A43 and for a laugh decided to select 'S' and floor the accelerator. The Audi started to indicate to pull out then had to change their mind. They never did catch me up ;D :-[
I was thinking of my tyres. My thoughts were along the lines of 'sod the damn' things' :D
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I find flooring it in third is useful if you want to shift, but I know my pals 300+ BHP Audi S3 would leave me in a cloud of dust as he disappeared into the distance leaving me a view of its quadruple exhausts.
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I find flooring it in third is useful if you want to shift, but I know my pals 300+ BHP Audi S3 would leave me in a cloud of dust as he disappeared into the distance leaving me a view of its quadruple exhausts.
For sure. But I find that most people don't want to use what they have. Whereas when the mood takes me I will push my car as hard as I can. A Jazz pushed to its limit (red line all the way way with CVT) will outperform an Audi driver not willing to work the car hard. Not something I do very often but I was on my way to the petrol station and decided ti have some fun ;)
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It does an engine good to be well exercised on a regular basis when it is fully up to operating temperature, remembering the oil takes longer to heat up than the coolant, it blows all the crap out of the engine and exhaust after a few days of pottering around. :-)
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It also engages the vtec system and keeps it free to move and in good condition.
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Automatic speed limiter - it will read the speed on the road signs and try to stop you going any faster (unless you really put your foot down). It's explained in the handbook somewhere. I've never tried using this function but did find useful (i) the display of the last speed limit sign and (ii) a little 'ping' when accelerating through 30 mph (as once the Mk 3 gets going it easily gets over the 30 mph limit).
Thanks, that helped me found out how to turn it off
Neil
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Prompted by this thread I have been trying out the LIM options for the first time. Observations so far:
I am impressed by the smart LIM as well. For me it hasn't picked up any non-applicable side roads yet.
In a 30 zone it limits the speed to 30mph on the speedometer, which is a true 27mph (from satnav) so seems very slow.
The most frustrating time is when leaving a 30mph village. The end of speed limit sign is a few hundred yards from last house, and normally I would be picking up speed a bit as I approached the sign, but the LIM function doesn't let you do this until you are 10 yards past the sign.
The LIM speed can't be overridden by pushing hard on the accelerator. I floored it with no effect. Am I doing something wrong?
Not sure I will stick with it but might use it sometimes.
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You can always adjust the limit manually so that it lets you drive at a true 30 or whatever. But you then have to do it again if it sees a repeater sign. Life's a bit too short for all that I think!
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The most frustrating time is when leaving a 30mph village. The end of speed limit sign is a few hundred yards from last house, and normally I would be picking up speed a bit as I approached the sign, but the LIM function doesn't let you do this until you are 10 yards past the sign.
The system is trying to keep you within the law, because the speed limit applies until you pass the sign.
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You can always adjust the limit manually so that it lets you drive at a true 30 or whatever. But you then have to do it again if it sees a repeater sign. Life's a bit too short for all that I think!
Thanks, are you saying you can use the + button to make it go at 30 instead of 27 even in smart mode? I didn't try that, but it would be tiresome to do it each sign.
I can see the non-smart settable LIM might be useful on motorways. I find cruise control on motorways is a problem because of frequent need to adjust or cancel unless the motorway very clear.
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The system is trying to keep you within the law, because the speed limit applies until you pass the sign.
Yes I do appreciate that!
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You can always adjust the limit manually so that it lets you drive at a true 30 or whatever. But you then have to do it again if it sees a repeater sign. Life's a bit too short for all that I think!
Thanks, are you saying you can use the + button to make it go at 30 instead of 27 even in smart mode? I didn't try that, but it would be tiresome to do it each sign.
To answer my own question after trying out...it is as you say, you can tweak speed in smart LIM mode. Whats more it doesn't reset to 30 when its sees reminder speed signs in the same zone, but does start again at 30 next zone.
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I can see the non-smart settable LIM might be useful on motorways. I find cruise control on motorways is a problem because of frequent need to adjust or cancel unless the motorway very clear.
Depends how you drive motorways I suppose. I find I can drive for hour after hour in lane one at around 60mph.
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The LIM speed can't be overridden by pushing hard on the accelerator. I floored it with no effect. Am I doing something wrong?
Pressing the accelerator pedal to the floor for a second or so will cause the system to bleep and then allow you to break the speed limit. It will continue flashing the limit (but not bleeping) until you again go below it and then you are back to it limiting you, helping to save children running into the road, cars coming out of drives etc. and possibly your licence.
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The LIM speed can't be overridden by pushing hard on the accelerator. I floored it with no effect. Am I doing something wrong?
Pressing the accelerator pedal to the floor for a second or so will cause the system to bleep and then allow you to break the speed limit. It will continue flashing the limit (but not bleeping) until you again go below it and then you are back to it limiting you, helping to save children running into the road, cars coming out of drives etc. and possibly your licence.
Thanks. I know that is what it supposed to do and since posting before I have tired it four times and only once did it let me accelerate, and then there seemed to be quite a delay. Will try some more times.
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Given the speed limiter's weakness that it can't be permanently calibrated to true road speed, the alternative which I used on my Mk 3 Jazz was the speed alarm which gives a modest beep each time the vehicle accelerated through 30 mph (which can be adjusted). I found that to be useful because of the car's willingness to put on a few revs (CVT version) when pulling away from lights, roundabouts, etc and quickly exceed a 30 mph limit.
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Given the speed limiter's weakness that it can't be permanently calibrated to true road speed, the alternative which I used on my Mk 3 Jazz was the speed alarm which gives a modest beep each time the vehicle accelerated through 30 mph (which can be adjusted). I found that to be useful because of the car's willingness to put on a few revs (CVT version) when pulling away from lights, roundabouts, etc and quickly exceed a 30 mph limit.
Not sure what you mean here John and how your solution is any different to the LIM (either road sign recognition or manual). As far as I am aware, they are all, including the alarm and cruise control, calibrated to the speedometer. How else could you do it, other than GPS? Perhaps you are not aware that if the manual limiter was last used at 30, when you engage it again (assuming it has not recently seen a speed limit sign to the contrary) it will resume set at 30. That's what I do when I leave home on every journey.
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Given the speed limiter's weakness that it can't be permanently calibrated to true road speed, the alternative which I used on my Mk 3 Jazz was the speed alarm which gives a modest beep each time the vehicle accelerated through 30 mph (which can be adjusted). I found that to be useful because of the car's willingness to put on a few revs (CVT version) when pulling away from lights, roundabouts, etc and quickly exceed a 30 mph limit.
Not sure what you mean here John and how your solution is any different to the LIM (either road sign recognition or manual). As far as I am aware, they are all, including the alarm and cruise control, calibrated to the speedometer. How else could you do it, other than GPS? Perhaps you are not aware that if the manual limiter was last used at 30, when you engage it again (assuming it has not recently seen a speed limit sign to the contrary) it will resume set at 30. That's what I do when I leave home on every journey.
John is referring the completely independent alert system which bleeps when you go through set speeds. It doesn't regulate or control the car speed at all, and can be used in parallel with LIM. I also have mine set to bleep at 30, but wasn't aware of what John said that it can be fine tuned to say 33mph.
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Given the speed limiter's weakness that it can't be permanently calibrated to true road speed, the alternative which I used on my Mk 3 Jazz was the speed alarm which gives a modest beep each time the vehicle accelerated through 30 mph (which can be adjusted). I found that to be useful because of the car's willingness to put on a few revs (CVT version) when pulling away from lights, roundabouts, etc and quickly exceed a 30 mph limit.
Not sure what you mean here John and how your solution is any different to the LIM (either road sign recognition or manual). As far as I am aware, they are all, including the alarm and cruise control, calibrated to the speedometer. How else could you do it, other than GPS? Perhaps you are not aware that if the manual limiter was last used at 30, when you engage it again (assuming it has not recently seen a speed limit sign to the contrary) it will resume set at 30. That's what I do when I leave home on every journey.
John is referring the completely independent alert system which bleeps when you go through set speeds. It doesn't regulate or control the car speed at all, and can be used in parallel with LIM. I also have mine set to bleep at 30, but wasn't aware of what John said that it can be fine tuned to say 33mph.
Yeah I know what it does. There are two of them, I only use one and have that set to 74. But I didn't understand the weakness of the limiter John was referring to.
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Given the speed limiter's weakness that it can't be permanently calibrated to true road speed, the alternative which I used on my Mk 3 Jazz was the speed alarm which gives a modest beep each time the vehicle accelerated through 30 mph (which can be adjusted). I found that to be useful because of the car's willingness to put on a few revs (CVT version) when pulling away from lights, roundabouts, etc and quickly exceed a 30 mph limit.
Not sure what you mean here John and how your solution is any different to the LIM (either road sign recognition or manual). As far as I am aware, they are all, including the alarm and cruise control, calibrated to the speedometer. How else could you do it, other than GPS? Perhaps you are not aware that if the manual limiter was last used at 30, when you engage it again (assuming it has not recently seen a speed limit sign to the contrary) it will resume set at 30. That's what I do when I leave home on every journey.
John is referring the completely independent alert system which bleeps when you go through set speeds. It doesn't regulate or control the car speed at all, and can be used in parallel with LIM. I also have mine set to bleep at 30, but wasn't aware of what John said that it can be fine tuned to say 33mph.
Yeah I know what it does. There are two of them, I only use one and have that set to 74. But I didn't understand the weakness of the limiter John was referring to.
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Given the speed limiter's weakness that it can't be permanently calibrated to true road speed, the alternative which I used on my Mk 3 Jazz was the speed alarm which gives a modest beep each time the vehicle accelerated through 30 mph (which can be adjusted). I found that to be useful because of the car's willingness to put on a few revs (CVT version) when pulling away from lights, roundabouts, etc and quickly exceed a 30 mph limit.
Not sure what you mean here John and how your solution is any different to the LIM (either road sign recognition or manual). As far as I am aware, they are all, including the alarm and cruise control, calibrated to the speedometer. How else could you do it, other than GPS? Perhaps you are not aware that if the manual limiter was last used at 30, when you engage it again (assuming it has not recently seen a speed limit sign to the contrary) it will resume set at 30. That's what I do when I leave home on every journey.
John is referring the completely independent alert system which bleeps when you go through set speeds. It doesn't regulate or control the car speed at all, and can be used in parallel with LIM. I also have mine set to bleep at 30, but wasn't aware of what John said that it can be fine tuned to say 33mph.
Yeah I know what it does. There are two of them, I only use one and have that set to 74. But I didn't understand the weakness of the limiter John was referring to.
I think he just meant that the smart LIM setting can't be permanently adjusted to work at a true 30 (or 40 etc), whereas the speed alarm can (which is news to me but you and John have both said it, so tomorrow I am going to set my speed alarm to 33).
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I think he just meant that the smart LIM setting can't be permanently adjusted to work at a true 30 (or 40 etc), whereas the speed alarm can (which is news to me but you and John have both said it, so tomorrow I am going to set my speed alarm to 33).
That's what it says in my HR-V manual which is very similar to the Jazz manual in this respect. It's something I set once and then never revisited.
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... tomorrow I am going to set my speed alarm to 33.
Remember it will sound as you accelerate through the set speed. So if you set it to a speed you actually intend to drive at, it will sound frequently as your speed inevitably varies up and down slightly, which you might find a little annoying. Personally I find it useful to set it at an indicated 30 knowing that's a bit below actual road speed so that it warns me when I'm about to exceed actual 30 (and the second alarm is set so that I get warned when I'm about to exceed 70). After it's sounded I know I need to keep a check on speed, ie I drive normally.
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Thanks, valid points....will experiment.