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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 => Topic started by: SuperCNJ on June 04, 2019, 11:54:59 PM
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We've been toying with the idea of replacing our 14 year old 1.4 GD Sport with a used MK3 Jazz but we are a bit undecided on which one to get as there are things we want from both the Sport and the EX and we also have some questions I hope some of you who have these cars can help us answer.
We don't do much mileage with the car as it is mostly used for the school run and grocery shopping so most of the mileage is over short journeys - probably less than 5k miles a year.
My wife and I love the look of the new Sport and quite keen on the idea of having a bit more power (although not essential). However, we're not sure if it would mean paying a lot more in fuel costs and insurance over the EX. This is something I would like to get your opinions on - as to whether you really notice the difference in fuel consumption between the two engines. Well, I suppose the more meaningful comparison might be the difference in fuel consumption between our current GD and the GK Sport?
The other thing that we really would like to have are LED headlights - which I have read conflicting information on, with some saying that it's only available on the EX and not the Sport while other sources say it is standard on both.
One idea I had, to get the best of both worlds, was to go with the EX and then change the bumpers and side skirts to make it look like the Sport - not sure how easy this is though. Has anyone done this before?
I'm still doing my homework on the GK, so it would be great to get some advice from current owners on how they feel about the GK and if there are any particular faults to look out for.
Many thanks :D
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Have you looked at Honest John's website. I think the answers to your questions are there.
This https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/honda/jazz-2014/history/ (https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/honda/jazz-2014/history/) says both EX & Sport have LED headlights.
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I have an EX and the only things that the sport hasn’t got are
climate control
Reversing camera
Keyless entry and start
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Drive both versions then choose which you prefer, sell you old Jazz privately or through we buy any... then bargain hard for the new Jazz I would consider almost new from Motorpoint or carwow etc.
As for the conversion avoid that option, the vehicle would be fine for you but would be regarded a possible accident repair jobby when you sell.
There are plenty of clean Jazz mk3 out there - but several cat S and others to avoid
If paying over £3k used the always go for full HPI check
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Have you looked at Honest John's website. I think the answers to your questions are there.
This https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/honda/jazz-2014/history/ (https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/honda/jazz-2014/history/) says both EX & Sport have LED headlights.
Thanks for this, I hadn't read this one before and yes, it does answer some of my questions but I would really like to know if the Sport is a lot more thirsty than the EX in the real world. I guess if the fuel consumption of the GK Sport is similar to our current 1.4 GD Sport then it probably wouldn't matter so much as we wouldn't notice any difference.
But I understand that the GK Sport is of a much higher insurance group compared to the other models, though I'm not sure if that equates to a much higher premium. Has anyone had quotes for both models before?
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Drive both versions then choose which you prefer, sell you old Jazz privately or through we buy any... then bargain hard for the new Jazz I would consider almost new from Motorpoint or carwow etc.
As for the conversion avoid that option, the vehicle would be fine for you but would be regarded a possible accident repair jobby when you sell.
There are plenty of clean Jazz mk3 out there - but several cat S and others to avoid
If paying over £3k used the always go for full HPI check
Thanks for your advice. I think we will test drive at least one of these but we can't really get a feel for fuel consumption on the test drive. So I was hoping owners of these models could feedback their thoughts on this - particularly if they have owned a GD 1.4 Jazz before. That would be really helpful.
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I have owned the 1.4(GE),1.3 and now the 1.5, all CVT. I have found all to return between 40 and 42 mpg. However the 1.3 does have the potential to give a much better mpg if driven with restraint due to the Atkinson Cycle feature.
I did notice from the Honest John item quoted earlier that the Sport appears to have been discontinued after only 15months on the market. I am now hoping that the new hybrid jazz will offer a similar performance to my Sport, otherwise I may have to look at something else when the time to change comes.
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My 1.3 cvt is averaging between 48 to 50 mpg according to the computer on a 50 50 motorway and town commute
I previously had a 1.3 manual that used to claim 54 mpg
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You can browse real world mpg data on fuelly.com. Roughly it looks like the Mk3 sport is similar to a Mk1 and the EX is better.
Got a feeling Honest John site may have some real world data too. Good luck.
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We, at local Honda dealers, almost signed to buy a new 1.5 "Sport" recently, checked on availability of
glass roof ala "EX", Informed Honda has stopped them. No sunshine roof either !!!
Walked away. Keep our current "EX" thanks, 63 plate, only 8,854 miles.
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For 5000 miles a year any increase in fuel consumption is going to cost well under £100 a year, I would think. The 1.3 GK Jazz is definitely more economical than the 1.4 GD, so the chances are you won't notice the difference even with the sport unless you hammer it. Insurance may be a more important issue to check, especially if you live in a high risk area.
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I did notice from the Honest John item quoted earlier that the Sport appears to have been discontinued after only 15months on the market.
Honda are still offering it on their site, unless they are only selling what they have in stock. Can you link to the Honest John info?
Okay. Found it.
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Ex Honest John:
"May 2019
Reader report when attempting to order a Honda Jazz Sport that the Jazz Sport has been discontinued. Confirmed by Honda that Jazz Sport discontinued due to next gen Jazz with hybrid drivetrain making debut late 2019. Still "a few" Jazz 1.5iVTEC Sports in UK stock."
Well that was an 12 month wonder.
It will have great rarity value.
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I have owned the 1.4(GE),1.3 and now the 1.5, all CVT. I have found all to return between 40 and 42 mpg. However the 1.3 does have the potential to give a much better mpg if driven with restraint due to the Atkinson Cycle feature.
I did notice from the Honest John item quoted earlier that the Sport appears to have been discontinued after only 15months on the market. I am now hoping that the new hybrid jazz will offer a similar performance to my Sport, otherwise I may have to look at something else when the time to change comes.
Thanks, did you notice a significant change in fuel consumption going to the 1.5 Sport from either of your previous cars?
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My 1.3 cvt is averaging between 48 to 50 mpg according to the computer on a 50 50 motorway and town commute
I previously had a 1.3 manual that used to claim 54 mpg
Isn’t the CVT supposed to be nore frugal?
We’re looking to get a manual though.
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For 5000 miles a year any increase in fuel consumption is going to cost well under £100 a year, I would think. The 1.3 GK Jazz is definitely more economical than the 1.4 GD, so the chances are you won't notice the difference even with the sport unless you hammer it. Insurance may be a more important issue to check, especially if you live in a high risk area.
Good points there, thanks! We’re leaning towards the Sport too now but just want to make sure we won’t get a shock having enjoyed the relative economy of the 1.4 GD over the past decade...
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You can browse real world mpg data on fuelly.com. Roughly it looks like the Mk3 sport is similar to a Mk1 and the EX is better.
Got a feeling Honest John site may have some real world data too. Good luck.
I’ve had a look at fuelly before but I guess you have to take it with a pinch of salt as it depends on how people drive. I figured a better way would just be to ask you guys as most people would normally get a sense that a car is more thirsty than another...
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Ex Honest John:
"May 2019
Reader report when attempting to order a Honda Jazz Sport that the Jazz Sport has been discontinued. Confirmed by Honda that Jazz Sport discontinued due to next gen Jazz with hybrid drivetrain making debut late 2019. Still "a few" Jazz 1.5iVTEC Sports in UK stock."
Well that was an 12 month wonder.
It will have great rarity value.
Presumably all the 1.5 engines are now going into the Jazz hybrids.
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Thanks, did you notice a significant change in fuel consumption going to the 1.5 Sport from either of your previous cars?
No, very little difference. In fact the fuel consumption of my 1.5 is almost the same as my previous 1.3EX, 1.5 engine without climate control compared to 1.3 engine with auto climate control.
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My 1.3 cvt is averaging between 48 to 50 mpg according to the computer on a 50 50 motorway and town commute
I previously had a 1.3 manual that used to claim 54 mpg
Isn’t the CVT supposed to be nore frugal?
We’re looking to get a manual though.
It’s supposed to be but as I have never worked out a accurate mpg I don’t know for sure. Perhaps the latest models computer is more accurate/ less optimistic I don’t know?
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We have just swapped our MK1 1.4 jazz sport for a 2109 sport and if the cars fuel readout is accurate it seams very similar to our old car, it is just the grin on my face when driving it that has got wider.!
Pulling on to the motorway from the slip road is a lot better.
Like you we do not do many miles in the car but when we do it is mostly for longer runs as the wife takes the bus and I use a motorcycle for commuting.
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I wish the 1.5 engine was standard in the UK. It should be. It is in the United States....
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We have just swapped our MK1 1.4 jazz sport for a 2109 sport and if the cars fuel readout is accurate it seams very similar to our old car, it is just the grin on my face when driving it that has got wider.!
Pulling on to the motorway from the slip road is a lot better.
Like you we do not do many miles in the car but when we do it is mostly for longer runs as the wife takes the bus and I use a motorcycle for commuting.
Thanks. That's great! I take it you haven't noticed much difference in fuel use yourself.
I've just found out that the cost of insuring the 1.5 Sport compared with the 1.3 EX is only £25 difference per year, so I guess we'll be going for the Sport!
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For 5000 miles a year any increase in fuel consumption is going to cost well under £100 a year, I would think. The 1.3 GK Jazz is definitely more economical than the 1.4 GD, so the chances are you won't notice the difference even with the sport unless you hammer it. Insurance may be a more important issue to check, especially if you live in a high risk area.
Good points there, thanks! We’re leaning towards the Sport too now but just want to make sure we won’t get a shock having enjoyed the relative economy of the 1.4 GD over the past decade...
Hi.
If you need any help with insurance at all then please feel free to drop me a line.
Regards,
Dan.