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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: Karoq on July 11, 2021, 03:56:45 PM
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Has anyone replaced the ghastly 'beep-beep' on a hybrid jazz, specifically Crosstar if so what did the dealer charge?
Thanks.
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Has anyone replaced the ghastly 'beep-beep' on a hybrid jazz, specifically Crosstar if so what did the dealer charge?
Thanks.
The horn on our MK1 Jazzes was so embarrassing I went to scrapyard and got a couple of Fiat horns ( plenty of Fiats in scrapyards then ) much louder ( is a loud horn a requirement in Italy ). , just had to modify Honda bracket and solder / heatshrink the wires. Civic horn much better.
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Does it not affect the Canbus system then?
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Does it not affect the Canbus system then?
Mk1 doesn't have Canbus.
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I have one of the last Mk1's and the horn is more than adequate. it has a loud, confident sound.
I had a Nissan Micra previously and the horn was frankly pathetic.
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I can't remember the last time I used the horn
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Does it not affect the Canbus system then?
That's what I was worried about!
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I can't remember the last time I used the horn
Only use horn as a last resort to wake up drivers who have gone to sleep when traffic lights change etc ( although they are more likely messing with their phone). Better to use the brakes than the horn in most situations.
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Only use horn as a last resort to wake up drivers who have gone to sleep when traffic lights change etc ( although they are more likely messing with their phone).
Sounding the horn whilst stationary is illegal (Highway Code, Rule 112). Approved use is to warn of your presence whilst moving, although many other drivers seem to treat it as a personal affront to their manhood if you do.
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Only use horn as a last resort to wake up drivers who have gone to sleep when traffic lights change etc ( although they are more likely messing with their phone).
Sounding the horn whilst stationary is illegal (Highway Code, Rule 112). Approved use is to warn of your presence whilst moving, although many other drivers seem to treat it as a personal affront to their manhood if you do.
Just the shortest possible 'toot' used. So what else can you do when vehicle in front stays put ( getting out of the car to tap on their window is a bad move, as soon as you are out of car sods law says they drive off - and then you are the one holding traffic up ), and taxis often use a peep of the horn to alert customers they are outside their house. This is one of those laws that many people break every day. Using horn between 11-30pm and 7am in built up areas is frowned upon. If someone was reversing towards my parked car I would not hesitate to honk if they were getting too close, has saved me getting hit a few times. There is no law on how loud a horn can be, but it must not have multiple tones. I find Harleys with open exhausts far more annoying than a car horn, and they are still legal, nothing said about riding a Harley in a built up area between 11-30 and 7-00, my brother in law has one and we can hear him many streets away when he visits our house..
The list of laws people break every day is a long one, and drivers are more likely than many others to do it, simply because there are a myriad of laws that motorists need to obey.
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/16-highway-code-rules-most-people-ignore/
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Thank you for all your comments, but nobody has answered my question!
I am used to a 'proper' horn on my Karoq and have always hated the Honda 'bleat' on all the 8 HondasI have owned.
I called my Honda dealer who said he had just replaced a HR-v horn for a customer with an Accord horn. I know not which model as some Accords I have heard suffer from the same problem.
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Only use horn as a last resort to wake up drivers who have gone to sleep when traffic lights change etc ( although they are more likely messing with their phone).
Sounding the horn whilst stationary is illegal (Highway Code, Rule 112). Approved use is to warn of your presence whilst moving, although many other drivers seem to treat it as a personal affront to their manhood if you do.
So if you are stationary at the traffic lights & the car in front of you starts rolling back you just sit quietly till he hits your car while rolling back. He could then claim you went into the back of him as the car behind is usually held responsible when there are no witnesses.
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Not sure what point you are making? I am trying to find out about replacing the miserable, standard toy horn.
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Only use horn as a last resort to wake up drivers who have gone to sleep when traffic lights change etc ( although they are more likely messing with their phone).
Sounding the horn whilst stationary is illegal (Highway Code, Rule 112). Approved use is to warn of your presence whilst moving, although many other drivers seem to treat it as a personal affront to their manhood if you do.
So if you are stationary at the traffic lights & the car in front of you starts rolling back you just sit quietly till he hits your car while rolling back. He could then claim you went into the back of him as the car behind is usually held responsible when there are no witnesses.
That’s a misunderstanding; Rule 112 (and the underlying Construction & Use Regulations) reads:
Rule 112
The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn
- while stationary on the road
- when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am
except when another road user poses a danger.
Law CUR reg 99
So if someone is rolling back towards you then they obviously pose a danger and you should warn them with the horn. But that’s a different case to the one described by Culzean where he’s just being held up by someone being a bit slow off the mark at the traffic lights. That is illegal.
All I’m doing here is stating what the law says.
Not sure what point you are making? I am trying to find out about replacing the miserable, standard toy horn.
Apologies for going off topic, I’m just trying to correct some misunderstandings. If people want to continue the debate about legal use of the horn then I’m quite happy to open a new thread, otherwise let’s get back to your question (which I can’t answer, unfortunately).
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The ultimate solution for your problem:
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It's one of the 1st checks I do when testing a used car. Agree with Jocko re Fiat horns.
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I can't remember the last time I used the horn
I used mine this morning approaching a blind corner on a single track country lane.
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yes - but did it make a timid 'pooping' noise? ;D ;D
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yes - but did it make a timid 'pooping' noise? ;D ;D
"Poop poop!" went Mr Toad.
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A friend switched his OEM horn for a set of quad air horns.
At an MOT the mechanic blasted the horn and frightened the life out of all the other mechanics :)
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yes - but did it make a timid 'pooping' noise? ;D ;D
"Poop poop!" went Mr Toad.
All over the seat of his motor car.....
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Well, used the horn for the first time today. Not great but does the job. It was to warn a cyclist riding in the middle of the road, no hands on the handlebars and texting on his phone (I am not kidding).
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begs the question, is a friendly 'pooping' tone for the horn more socially acceptable than a nasty aggressive blare, and ultimately just as effective as a warning noise/ :-\
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If I had my way I would fit a claxon under the bonnet. Trouble is, that dinky Jazz 'motorbike' battery would expire.
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If I had my way I woujld fit a claxon under the bonnet. Trouble is, that dinky Jazz 'motorbike' battery would expire.
I was thinking more Dukes Of Hazzard, really popular with the Woke Patrol.
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I remember when every second car had a D of H horn, then they changed the regs so that all notes had to sound together. My Maserati air horns were just two discordant notes.
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I used to sport a Tandy bull horn some years ago but I forgot to remove it when p/x
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Alternative Mk.4 horn?
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Train horns seem to work quite well in little cars :D
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Friend has been moving a set of quad air horns from car to car.
He was told at a recent MOT and service that one mechanic was tinkering in the engine bay whilst another was doing the MOT. When he tested the horn the one in the engine bay banged his head on the bonnet :)
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If I had my way I would fit a claxon under the bonnet. Trouble is, that dinky Jazz 'motorbike' battery would expire.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184894040749?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2b0c8b2aad:g:k1EAAOSwJMlgWGBs&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACoPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsS7UXID%252BRPOSNsnm8kYPghtIQpwJ64hdTij59%252BobC%252BSr2kO%252F%252BsHPEAhX4zk%252FrTYi7ldsAd1ElESGqkIrX%252Fb843LhhsU6w9CgO0PysxFLNcfuDu856Ugk03TD2moFiLcJ9tbJDbKL9CsICscD39g729v9PbzeLd0juJ0WTKWLA9JaCk%252FGFK7%252BXX2F%252Fe5dSfB2kMstkkda04FwcXUIP2LygDjC9ajakJvavhQFv0JMGU0qLhUG5PmqYV4K3luThYPqalMIsb03pV9o9pQCETD3vtro%252BuihR4DuwEDNMyIi5nuNyCtxDUMwgXvinOGYHuTi4%252FeSaHDnTdsTXzWkfphYiPqhZuqqA%252BIbpUgVihCZKfayYHls6v1vRCuInWapTq3qkAKntl2ydMBb%252BvdzeD4cudbnzJGMSYv%252Bv75w%252FwZrS9rIItfBlNrQ3dEMItKnkEVEvBFMf7BSFmXt4VTfSR9kPdqjhkOOOz%252FhFpz5Z74%252BeGZm7dOjGubzBQkg%252FrlCzvI%252B8dus7hP%252FJBKL6BK6sXhhrAH%252B4Gs27vI6DYbKv4DWFrO4RhP3nkNtPeaxMnnM4PCTGi204ZADGvaU%252FYg9Kq8HYBXteU5fR53hWeSN8r88NkH6qOiNGCkEw5nNh99GjA6k0djKXMYO8oCmeIe7U5er3TCcmVFWoG%252BxsPan9F%252B1C4SF5h5r9VCh9yyqkynRrRxgN1Pr0P%252FosWeKTIWues8VPRiI8FSPHpNyPGd7sFMzFk6AuRgLsq5FbBb0%252FHKAsEpLobVTE%252Fvg13hrDH%252B0GMoF8KHWW86FlsJNruj0JEbS24yDdgNDDFUOGjKbjX63o1W6j9%252FQDJLcutuuOZzZpHZGdKMg%253D%253D%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBMlImw46xf
They don't use much current. I had one on my Mazda Bongo. Brilliant. Canbus is a pain in the @rse, spoling our fun!
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I say this mostly in jest, but with an element of truth. ;D
All new cars should be fitted with a horn that sounds like a duck quacking. Perfect for a short 'I am here' quack.
But less likely to be used aggressively because you would sound like a manic mallard. :-X
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I say this mostly in jest, but with an element of truth. ;D
All new cars should be fitted with a horn that sounds like a duck quacking. Perfect for a short 'I am here' quack.
But less likely to be used aggressively because you would sound like a manic mallard. :-X
Many devices stop working when they have a quack in them....
The only 'manic mallard' I know is this one..
https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/whats-on/mallard-worlds-fastest-steam-locomotive
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You cant beat an old klaxon horn , like this one
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You cant beat an old klaxon horn , like this one
This is the noise the one I put up on the eBay URL makes.
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I have swapped my Crosstar standard horns for a pair from my local car accessory shop but I decided to also buy a cheap set from the auction site, just for the correct connection to the Honda harness as I did not want to cut anything.
On my MKIII sport I could not get to the horns without a lot of work but it was a lot easier on the Crosstar as both horns are mounted higher up and you just have to pop off the top cover at the front of the car.
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I don't think I've heard the hooter on my car yet.
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I don't think I've heard the hooter on my car yet.
Naughty ;D
Must admit I dont use mine as often a some advocate.
I prefer the motorcyclist tactic , assuming you are invisible and always able to avoid them whatever they might ,or might not, do. I occasionally do an 'I am here' toot but dont rely on them reacting.
Rarely I do a retrospective " I was here, I hope you realise you didnt see me and need to improve" type hoot. (not strictly within the highway code :-[)
The standard ex horn sounds ok to me.
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I don't think I've heard the hooter on my car yet.
Naughty ;D
Must admit I dont use mine as often a some advocate.
Who advocates that?
I prefer the motorcyclist tactic , assuming you are invisible and always able to avoid them whatever they might ,or might not, do.
Yup, same here. Riding on two wheels is a great way to learn caution on the road. It would be good if all road users could start off on low powered motorcycles.
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I have swapped my Crosstar standard horns for a pair from my local car accessory shop but I decided to also buy a cheap set from the auction site, just for the correct connection to the Honda harness as I did not want to cut anything.
What about the CANBUS? No problems?
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Who advocates that?
I meant individuals who may rely on their horns more often than they should.
Advanced motoring organisations take a more pragmatic approach. The best defensive driving is to keep out of their range. Not relying on the horn stopping them in their tracks. If they cant reach you there is less need to warn them. :P
On a blind bend etc where you cant control the other vehicles speed of approach, or an advanced warning so they wont be startled and do something irrational. Or a gentle toot to remind them the lights have been green for 10 seconds Ok
Beyond that it quickly gets into "get out of my way" territory.
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I have swapped my Crosstar standard horns for a pair from my local car accessory shop but I decided to also buy a cheap set from the auction site, just for the correct connection to the Honda harness as I did not want to cut anything.
What about the CANBUS? No problems?
No issues, the horn is conventionally wired and via a relay.
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Don't need to use the horn that often but if I need to I prefer to have one that does not sound like a moped.
Honda also fit this type of horn to there motorcycles, so I have replace mine with the same horn as on the car.
I was parked up on my bike when a driver of a Nissan Oashqai started reversing into me ,even though they had loads of room in front of them to pull out and I was glad that I had a louder horn fitted.