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Title: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 12:48:59 PM
Hi everyone

So I bought my Jazz 16 plate CVT recently and I was playing around with the buttons...somehow I turned off the adaptive cruise control! So now it's in normal cruise control so it doesn't keep a certain distance behind!

I want to switch back to adaptive cruise control from the normal cruise and I have tried everything... I've looked in the manual which doesn't say anything about it, and googling...YouTube just says to hold the distance button for a second but my car doesn't have a distance button!

To sum up: how on earth do you switch to adaptive cruise control!?

Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: mikebore on July 26, 2019, 12:58:33 PM
I don't believe the Mk3 Jazz has adaptive cruise control...my 2016 doesn't.

The three modes turned on by the main cruise control button are
conventional cruise control
Speed limiter to speed you set
Inteligent limiter sets to speed of last seen road sign.

It might have been introduced in the 1.5 models?

Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 01:07:26 PM
Are you sure because I am sure when I bought it driving home I could see the distance lines for the cruise control lines image. Then I pressed something and it said normal cruise control selected.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: Jocko on July 26, 2019, 01:07:53 PM
The 67 plate SE, that I had on loan, didn't have adaptive cruise control.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: mikebore on July 26, 2019, 01:10:38 PM
Are you sure because I am sure when I bought it driving home I could see the distance lines for the cruise control lines image. Then I pressed something and it said normal cruise control selected.

I would love for you to be correct!  where were you seeing the "cruise control lines image"
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 01:12:56 PM
I think it can be enabled somehow in the settings. I am 100% sure I saw the exact three lines for distance on the dash. Then whatever I pressed switched it to manual cruise.

If there's someone with more knowledge than me who can investigate this in the settings that would be cool.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: Jocko on July 26, 2019, 01:14:38 PM
Have you switched off the Forward Collision Control?
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 01:16:24 PM
Have you switched off the Forward Collision Control?

No I've not done that.

I can't remember exactly where I saw the three lines but it might have been on the little screen on the right or the main one. It definitely said in the main screen 'cruise control' when I switched to it by mistake. I definitely think there's a way guys.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 01:19:30 PM
Also this website says the Jazz 2018 CVT and diesel has adaptive cruise control. Not mentioned about 2016 model. Maybe the 2016 CVT has ACC?

https://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-advice/reviews/2018-honda-jazz-review-5-things-to-know/30756/ (https://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-advice/reviews/2018-honda-jazz-review-5-things-to-know/30756/)


Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: mikebore on July 26, 2019, 01:22:22 PM
I have my manual as a searchable PDF and "adaptive" doesn't come up with anything.

Could yours be an import model perhaps?
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 01:28:26 PM
I have my manual as a searchable PDF and "adaptive" doesn't come up with anything.

Could yours be an import model perhaps?

No it's a UK model. I think the last owner managed to find a way to activate it but I can't contact them now to ask how. I'm really convinced about this!
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: mikebore on July 26, 2019, 01:31:51 PM
I have my manual as a searchable PDF and "adaptive" doesn't come up with anything.

Could yours be an import model perhaps?

No it's a UK model. I think the last owner managed to find a way to activate it but I can't contact them now to ask how. I'm really convinced about this!

I can tell that! I hope you are right! I am pretty tech minded and have explored every feature of my car in the three years I have had it, including ones I never use. I would really like ACC.

There are some pretty knowledgeable people on this forum who haven't chipped in yet so maybe more info will emerge.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: mikebore on July 26, 2019, 01:38:01 PM
I assume you have found this page:

https://owners.honda.com/vehicles/information/2018/Fit/features/Adaptive-Cruise-Control/2

Not sure what country it applies to (not UK because of "Fit" not "Jazz")

My Jazz does not have the "Interval" button, which has three lines on it...does yours?

The article tells you how to switch between ACC and Standard control...press and hold the interval button.

Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 01:42:45 PM
I assume you have found this page:

https://owners.honda.com/vehicles/information/2018/Fit/features/Adaptive-Cruise-Control/2

Not sure what country it applies to (not UK because of "Fit" not "Jazz")

My Jazz does not have the "Interval" button, which has three lines on it...does yours?

The article tells you how to switch between ACC and Standard control...press and hold the interval button.

I don't have the interval button either that's why I was wondering why I saw it. If you think about it the Jazz has all the sensors to have ACC. The collision warning, lane departure etc.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 01:47:08 PM
I remember the last owner said he was an engineer!

Is it possible Honda were planning to put ACC in the MK3, but later decided against it probably to make people buy the more expensive Civic. So disabled it in the software?
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: Ralph on July 26, 2019, 01:51:15 PM
The Fit's adaptive cruise control system uses a radar unit located behind the grille, as well as a camera on the windscreen I don’t think the uk Jazz has the radar unit fitted
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: mikebore on July 26, 2019, 01:59:28 PM
I remember the last owner said he was an engineer!

Is it possible Honda were planning to put ACC in the MK3, but later decided against it probably to make people buy the more expensive Civic. So disabled it in the software?

But the software needs the controls on the steering wheel, not just the sensors. Maybe the previous owner did rig something up, but I would somehow be surprised, especially if it involved hacking the Infotainment unit or the Info screen to produce the lines you saw.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: ColinS on July 26, 2019, 02:09:56 PM
The car definitely does not have Adaptive Cruise Control.  What you saw was the setup for the Forward Collision Warning system which can be set for three different distances as per the manual page 132.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: mikebore on July 26, 2019, 02:25:09 PM
The car definitely does not have Adaptive Cruise Control.  What you saw was the setup for the Forward Collision Warning system which can be set for three different distances as per the manual page 132.

That doesn't fit with what nomnom said earlier "I am sure when I bought it driving home I could see the distance lines for the cruise control lines image. Then I pressed something and it said normal cruise control selected."

And the Forward Collision Warning setting screens look like the attached. Its a mystery!

Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: ColinS on July 26, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
A mystery indeed.  Does the VIN give any clues?
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: Downsizer on July 26, 2019, 02:48:29 PM
Also this website says the Jazz 2018 CVT and diesel has adaptive cruise control. Not mentioned about 2016 model. Maybe the 2016 CVT has ACC?

https://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-advice/reviews/2018-honda-jazz-review-5-things-to-know/30756/ (https://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-advice/reviews/2018-honda-jazz-review-5-things-to-know/30756/)
This is a review of cars in India.  There is no UK Diesel Jazz.  I should think adaptive cruise control would have a nervous breakdown in Indian traffic, which seems to go in all directions at the same time!
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: nomnom on July 26, 2019, 03:27:22 PM
I wasn't using the cruise control when this happened. I was just playing around with the buttons as I literally just bought it and was driving home figuring out what everything does.

I think ColinS you are right those lines were probably the forward collision warning. When it said cruise control on or off whatever it said that was when I must have pressed the Main button for cruise control.

This is the only thing that disappoints me about the car I thought it had ACC. Other than that it's a fantastic car and I would have still bought it. The plan is to keep this as my last reliable petrol car for about 5 years and then switch to the hybrid Jazz which will be the MK4. Hopefully that will come with ACC!
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: John A on July 26, 2019, 09:14:59 PM
Just a thought, it's not the Lane Departure Warning that showed the lines?
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: peteo48 on July 26, 2019, 09:18:20 PM
I've always assumed that earlier Mk3 Jazzes did not have adaptive cruise. On reading this thread I decided to ask the old boy across the road who has a late 2017 EX Navi - he always buys the top spec car and he is clear that his car does not have ACC.

I think ACC is a great idea and would love it on my next car. Where I live, the roads, including the motorways, are so busy that ordinary CC is more or less redundant. I always like it on a car for the odd long journey purely to give my right leg a rest.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: John A on July 27, 2019, 08:54:49 PM
Been using a hire car with adaptive cruise control and it's great in a number of scenarios, e.g. 50mph speed limit, set it at 50 and if someone slows down so do you, and when they accelerate so do you, up to the limit you've set. And if they stop for a traffic light etc, so do you. It's been on an automatic, and this is the best version of it, just need to trust the system, and keep your foot somewhere near to the brake / accelerator pedal as appropriate,.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: richardfrost on July 28, 2019, 04:33:18 PM
My RAV4 has ACC. I was quite insistent that I had it to the point of refusing a car the dealer found and had brought to his dealership for me, because it did not have it, despite them thinking it did. I ended up getting one which had been a Toyota Fleet Car for 12,000 miles.

Well, I hardly use it. Why? Takes all the interest out of driving and makes me lose attention. It is absolutely useful in restricted lane average speed limit roadworks and things like that, but in the normal commute and drives of les than an hour, I rarely switch it on.

Funny that! Was convinced it would be a great feature. When combined with lane departure warning and collision detection, you are almost in auto pilot. But because the car is not fully autonomous you need to stay alert, and long stretches of doing nothing but steer make for a dull journey.

Another weird feature of ACC is when you 'lock on' to the car ahead and for whatever reason that car slows down over time and eventually you realise you are doing 50 in a 60 or similar. Then you have to take control in order to overtake, as the ACC does not really respond quickly enough on the accelerator when you move out to overtake. Then you are in manual for a bit until either the road ahead is clear or you feel you are in a good traffic flow, then you re-engage ACC.

In the end, it's more trouble than it is worth, for me.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: culzean on July 28, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Richard you have hit the nail on the head about 'driver aids' they lead to distracted / bored drivers, I feel much more alert and alive riding my motorbike than I do driving a fug-box and as well as the sheer performance the main thing is you are very vulnerable on a bike sharing the roads with metal boxes controlled by distracted and inattentive drivers. I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I have used cruise control on my wifes Jazz in UK.  Used it more in places like USA and Australia on their straight roads uncluttered with traffic.  My brother had adaptive CC on his Suzuki Grand Vitara and tried it, but after initial novelty wore off, guess what....not used now.  He has a pre-flight routine in his Vitara which involves turning every auto aid fitted to his car that can be turned off...OFF...

Personally I would replace all the safety devices in modern cars ( which lead to drivers feeling invulnerable and taking risks ) with a metal spike in centre of steering wheel to help focus drivers attention....
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: Jocko on July 28, 2019, 05:53:26 PM
a metal spike in centre of steering wheel to help focus drivers attention....
It didn't work back when all cars were fitted with that metal spike (the solid steering column). Only way to stop drivers getting bored, distracted, and inattentive is to get rid of the driver.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: peteo48 on July 28, 2019, 09:13:37 PM
My RAV4 has ACC. I was quite insistent that I had it to the point of refusing a car the dealer found and had brought to his dealership for me, because it did not have it, despite them thinking it did. I ended up getting one which had been a Toyota Fleet Car for 12,000 miles.

Well, I hardly use it. Why? Takes all the interest out of driving and makes me lose attention. It is absolutely useful in restricted lane average speed limit roadworks and things like that, but in the normal commute and drives of les than an hour, I rarely switch it on.

Funny that! Was convinced it would be a great feature. When combined with lane departure warning and collision detection, you are almost in auto pilot. But because the car is not fully autonomous you need to stay alert, and long stretches of doing nothing but steer make for a dull journey.

Another weird feature of ACC is when you 'lock on' to the car ahead and for whatever reason that car slows down over time and eventually you realise you are doing 50 in a 60 or similar. Then you have to take control in order to overtake, as the ACC does not really respond quickly enough on the accelerator when you move out to overtake. Then you are in manual for a bit until either the road ahead is clear or you feel you are in a good traffic flow, then you re-engage ACC.

In the end, it's more trouble than it is worth, for me.

Interesting "real world" experience Richard. Makes me think. That said, the motorways round our way are pretty busy most of the time and I thought it would be useful when I am not in the "BMW" lane!
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: culzean on July 28, 2019, 10:12:41 PM
a metal spike in centre of steering wheel to help focus drivers attention....
It didn't work back when all cars were fitted with that metal spike (the solid steering column). Only way to stop drivers getting bored, distracted, and inattentive is to get rid of the driver.

Alternatively ( seeing as we are going to have to wait a long, long time for driverless cars - if they ever happen ) is to make the punishment for being bored, distracted and inattentive and causing an accident a lot harsher - if you kill someone with a vehicle you may get fined or a ban, or a short sentence - kill them any other way and you can expect 10 to 30 years,  a vehicle is a lethal weapon and it is about time the law reflected that.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: Jocko on July 28, 2019, 10:18:59 PM
I agree. Causing death by dangerous driving should have a minimum sentence of 14 years, not a maximum. After all, only seven of those years are served behind bars.
Title: Re: Help! Cruise Control how to switch to Adaptive?
Post by: guest7494 on July 30, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
I agree. Causing death by dangerous driving should have a minimum sentence of 14 years, not a maximum. After all, only seven of those years are served behind bars.


Any person who takes another’s life  by dangerous driving or other means should reap what they sow, that would focus ones attention.
 This country is too soft, thats why we have such interest in getting here.

Also treason should be treated the same way.
If your not sure what I mean then think about it!,