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Ed the Jazz

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Tyre change
« on: June 08, 2022, 11:03:50 PM »
Just had to change all 4 tyres only 2016 Jazz S CVT at 32000 miles. Tread was fine but side walls were crazing and splitting on the original Michelin Energy's 185/60R15. Went for 185/60R15 Michelin Crossclimate 2 and am running 34 front 33 back. Wow super improvement on ride quality, handling and lack of noise. Car is more like a limo than a jazz. Tyres are not cheap but certainly worth every penny.

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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2022, 08:41:24 AM »
Just had to change all 4 tyres only 2016 Jazz S CVT at 32000 miles. Tread was fine but side walls were crazing and splitting on the original Michelin Energy's 185/60R15. Went for 185/60R15 Michelin Crossclimate 2 and am running 34 front 33 back. Wow super improvement on ride quality, handling and lack of noise. Car is more like a limo than a jazz. Tyres are not cheap but certainly worth every penny.

Great choice! Had Crossclimate's on my old Nissan Qashqai. They have remarkable longevity, perform flawlessly in winter and, as you say, actually improve ride comfort. Well-worth the extra cost!

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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2022, 10:27:45 AM »
I've recently had a set of Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen3 tyres put on my Yaris. The refinement and ride comfort is very good, way better than the mix of Avon and Chinese things which were on it. Obviously can't comment on cold/snow etc, (mind you, it is still only June, anything could happen).

At my current use rate I doubt I'll ever wear out the OE Michelins on the Jazz, but if we are still able/allowed to drive petrol cars when the time comes (and I'm still fit to drive) I'd certainly put some form of all-season tyres on it.  ;D

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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2022, 02:27:04 PM »
I've recently had a set of Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen3 tyres put on my Yaris. The refinement and ride comfort is very good, way better than the mix of Avon and Chinese things which were on it. Obviously can't comment on cold/snow etc, (mind you, it is still only June, anything could happen).
Never say never. the attached photo was taken on the Gottard Pass in Switzerland in June 2019.

The Yaris was fitted with Goodyear Vector 4 Season gen 2.  Superior in every way to the Pirelli Cinurato P6 summer tyres they replaced  (the pirelli still had 6 mm tread)        Better in summer,  and not even in the same ball park in winter  - Limpet vs ice hockey puck.

Over the years I have driven in snow in June July and August.  Winter legal all season tyres ,and a set of snow chains, suits my peculiar needs better than separate summer and winter tyres, and having to decide which would be best for the current season and location.  :-\

    I have recently bought a set of  Vector 4 season Gen 3  ,fitted to after market alloys  for my Mk4  (happy to buy the newer tyre version of the devil I know). Not driven on them yet, as I  want to get some more wear out of my original wheels and summer tyres.   
A second set of wheels is a bit drastic for most, but Folks if you need new tyres  I dont think you will be disappointed with a decent  brand of all seasons for all year round use.  .     They are a world away  from the  so called 'all season' tyres available a few years ago
« Last Edit: June 11, 2022, 03:04:37 PM by Lord Voltermore »
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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2022, 05:08:05 PM »
...Never say never. the attached photo was taken on the Gottard Pass in Switzerland in June 2019. ...
;D
Yep, I've been in a snow shower on 1st July when crossing an Aline pass on a motorbike trip. Up there it can happen any day of the year.
Not quite the same here in leafy Warwickshire, chances are we won't see any snow at all, last winter I think we had 2 days when we got a thin sprinkling which lasted a few hours.
I worked in Austria for a bit, and you knew within a week or so when the snow would start. Winter tyre season would be announced, typically first week of December IIRC.

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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2022, 07:32:23 PM »
I have photographs taken in Burntisland (Fife) one June when a sudden heavy snowfall occurred. It didn't lie for long, but while it did it was a couple of inches thick.

Lord Voltermore

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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2022, 08:07:42 AM »
In Germany you must have tyres suitable for the current weather  conditions, regardless of the date. So if it suddenly snows  in July those on summer tyres should stop driving immediately and park until conditions improve.   ???.  Increasingly likely in spring and autumn.
   This legislation prompted the rapid development and improvement   of all season tyres, suitable for 130 mph on the autobahn in the summer,but also  winter conditions typical of central europe.   (In nordic countries etc ,proper winter tyres are adviseable, but these are unsuitable for summer)   Incredibly Iceland has no legal requirement for winter tyres  ,but in reality without them    you would be in deep (erm) snow  with your insurers.  >:(

This legistlation does not apply to the UK of course, and those  of us who can pick and chose which weather to drive in  might not need to rush to buy all season tyres.

But its the weather and road conditions  that affects your ability to stop ,steer , or ineed get any traction at all.Not legislation.  Personally I think anyone needing to replace their summer tyres would be daft not to consider  all seasons.     

 I loved my Goodyear Vectors,  Michelin crossclimates are well thought of , as are Vredsteins . 
   I have experience of much cheaper all seasons   on another car.  (Kumho Solus)  They are more than adequate, but a bit 'squeally' when making tight turns on smooth tarmac (such as multi storey car parks) and I didnt think they climbed a steep muddy track quite as well as the Goodyears would have done  ,although it was a different car.  Summer tyres would have stood no chance !    On the  plus side the Kumho are quiet, comfortable ride , wear well, and still perform at least as well in the summer as many budget brand summer tyres  (and a few premium ones)
« Last Edit: June 12, 2022, 08:36:24 AM by Lord Voltermore »
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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2022, 11:15:14 PM »
We've just put four CrossClimates on our 2016 CR-V and the difference in road noise and ride quality is astonishing! it's good to hear they make a difference on the Jazz too as I'll need to get some in the future due to the factory Dunlops cracking badly :(

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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2022, 03:44:03 PM »
Remember to change your tyres at 10 years, whether they are worn or not.

The rubber dries out they crack and don't perform as they should, also more susceptible to blowouts.

Lord Voltermore

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Re: Tyre change
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2022, 01:42:44 PM »
10 years old is an mot failure if the vehicle has 8 or more seats.  Seems they are happy for you to have a blow out on the motorway if only 5 people are at risk
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