The life expectancy figures the ONS use are based on lifetime expectancy. You confused the issue by introducing incremental life expectancies of healthy people based on age today. The figures you posted that a 85 year old can expect another X number of years certainly apply to a healthy person, but not, as I pointed out an already very sick 85 year old. Your figures have no relevance to the subject being discussed.
I think you have misunderstood the figures Bazzer was quoting.
The lifetime expectancy at birth is going to include people who die young.
If you survive child hood illnesses and car crashes in your young daft days etc. you can expect to live longer than the average life expectancy of a person at birth (which includes the ages of people now deceased)
You completely misunderstood my point, what I was saying is that vast majority of people who have 'succumbed' 'with covid' so far have been over 85 with multiple ( 2 or more ) pre-existing serious health conditions. Those figures Bazzer quoted were for 'healthy' people over of age 75, 85 etc.
The figures from the paper Bazzer quoted were for average people.
Some will be carrying some kind of condition. Some will not. Some conditions will be more well managed than others.
That is the nature of average.
Lots of people, who would otherwise have had years of life to look forward to, with or without underlying conditions have been killed by covid whether or not by covid alone.
The other point I was making was that life expectancy at age (say) eighty is greater than life expectancy at birth.
If you consider 100 people with a life expectancy of eighty (at birth) and by the time you reach eighty say 50 have already died at an average age of seventy, the remaining 50 might expect to have 10 years left to maintain the average life expectancy at birth.
(this is a simplification since the average rate of death increases with age, but I hope it makes the point)
Edit Upped the ages in the example by 10 years to bring it more into line with the John Campbell video.
Second edit to Culzean I suggest you re-read (or read) the link I gave a couple of days ago
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https://www.futurity.org/cdc-covid-19-comorbidities-2436032-2/