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cosb6

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2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« on: November 04, 2019, 02:02:25 PM »
Hi,
Has anyone had to replace rear shockers? (picture attached)

I've done the brake pads on the rear (at just 24k miles as they were a service advisory), and underneath both shocks are leaking, one would be an MOT fail (it passed without advisory 7 weeks ago).

Never replace one in 20+ years of motoring.... these are in very poor condition at 25k miles / 3 years old, and somewhat surprising.


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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 08:45:11 PM »
That looks rather a lot of oil for a leaking shock absorber?  ???

It's a long time since I saw a shocker blown like that. It looks rather greasy, what does the oil smell of? Is it water soluble? It seems to be up the side of the top shroud too, how far does it go up?

Are both sides like that? Seems very unusual, the only legitimate explanation I could think of would be a bad batch?

Any sign of a damp shocker at MOT time should at least merit an advisory, i.e. 'monitor and repair as necessary'. Hard to believe that both shockers have gone from MOT pass to that, in 7 weeks. Last question, anyone else touched on the car since the MOT, apart from yourself?

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 09:57:59 PM »
Try to clean it and see if it's leaking again. I had my car serviced by a Honda Dealer and they said the same thing. I took it to an independent and they said the shocks were dried! Doesn't warranty cover this? Classed as wear and tear?

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2019, 11:39:02 PM »
my rear shocks were replaced after i traded my 2011 mk2 jazz in at 44k miles, they seemed fine and dry to me but they apparently failed the mot before being resold at arnold clark

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2019, 08:13:26 AM »
Hi,
Has anyone had to replace rear shockers? (picture attached)

I've done the brake pads on the rear (at just 24k miles as they were a service advisory), and underneath both shocks are leaking, one would be an MOT fail (it passed without advisory 7 weeks ago).

Never replace one in 20+ years of motoring.... these are in very poor condition at 25k miles / 3 years old, and somewhat surprising.
Mine are ok after 2,5years and 34000miles. They are made by Sachs, in my opinion the one in the picture has to be replaced, clearly one seal has been damaged.
100$ and half an hour of work, it's easy.

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2019, 09:11:07 AM »
my rear shocks were replaced after i traded my 2011 mk2 jazz in at 44k miles, they seemed fine and dry to me but they apparently failed the mot before being resold at arnold clark

Mine are 10 yrs old and 97k miles. Still original pair despite being driven by learners and over hundreds of pot holes in London.

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2019, 09:25:08 AM »
Actual shock adsorbers can easily last more than 100000miles, improved rubber and oil have increased their duration.
Looks like this pair was defective.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2019, 09:31:38 AM by jazzaro »

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2019, 09:32:04 AM »
Actual shock adsorbers can easily last more than 100000miles, improved rubber and oil have increased their duration.
Looks like this pair was defective.
Definitely defective (or someone has sprayed oil on them). My car has done 120,000 miles in 13 years, on the original shock absorbers, without a trace of leaking.

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2019, 10:11:03 AM »
Try cleaning them with a rag and cleaner or paraffin and see what they look like after a month's usage..

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2019, 10:46:18 AM »
Wrong way. You will have a clean shock adsorber, but with no oil inside so a bad working shock adsorber, so poor handling and poor brake efficiency.

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2019, 11:57:58 AM »
I would clean them down then do a bump test, in case some enterprising mechanic has sprayed oil on them to make an extra buck. Take it you noticed no deterioration in handling prior to you spotting them.

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2019, 12:39:32 PM »
I would save the money for a bump test, that oil surely comes from the shock adsorber and the quantity means that now it's empty, so not working properly.

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2019, 01:12:51 PM »
I would save the money for a bump test
Don't follow. All you do is push down on the suspension and check its action.


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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2019, 01:22:58 PM »
Bump tests tend not to work. Suspension is too hard to compress effectively  with body weight.

If the shocks were made in Mexico, anything is possible though

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Re: 2016 - Jazz Shock Absorbers
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2019, 02:03:19 PM »
I never have any problem, but there again I am 20 stone bouncing on the door kicker plate! I could do a bounce test on a tipper truck  :D

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