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If your Jazz suffers from notchy steering, please tells us what year the car was registered

2002
6 (5.5%)
2003
8 (7.3%)
2004
6 (5.5%)
2005
21 (19.1%)
2006
17 (15.5%)
2007
24 (21.8%)
2008
28 (25.5%)

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Author Topic: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 Stiff or notchy power steering  (Read 132817 times)

guest150

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2010, 02:10:26 PM »
You should print off this full thread to show your dealer. At least he will know that this is an established fault and it might make it a bit more difficult to fob you off. It worked for me as Honda agreed to change the rack when this was thread was presented to them.

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2010, 08:49:33 PM »
I know what you mean - I really want to love my Jazz, but the steering is so bad, I can't see past it. I love the look of the car and the space inside, and the little extras like all-round electric windows, which a lot of cars of the same size (e.g. polo) don't have.

The dealer says he'll have to drive the car himself to judge the problem. I can't get to the dealer (an hour's drive away) until the weekend, so in the meantime I'm going to take it to a power steering specialist and see what he says.

Thanks again for your responses.





If you are hoping to get this sorted under warrenty then do not let any other garage deal with it. If honda see that someone else has been at it the warrnety may well be void.

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2010, 10:34:24 PM »
Hi there and thanks for the reply.

I bought the car from an independent dealer, not a Honda dealer, so the warranty is not a Honda warranty. I guessed that the same thing might be true of the independent dealer's warranty, though, so I checked with the dealer before I had other mechanics look at the car. With the permission of the dealer, my local mechanic re-alligned the steering and checked the rack and steering motor. He advised replacement of both. With the knowledge of the dealer, I have since had a power steering specialist check the car, and he agrees that I should not be driving it as it is. I haven't had a chance to call the dealer with this news, but I will do so tomorrow morning. The power steering specialist has also advised replacement of the steering assembly. I am hoping the warranty will cover the costs involved and that the dealer will authorise a mechanic local to me to carry out the work, as I do not want to drive for over an hour on the motorway in a car that a power steering specialist has described as unsafe.

Thanks again for your reply. I have also found a post on another forum where a Jazz owner describes the same problem and having the steering assembly replaced by her Honda dealer who said it was something they had done several times. I will print that post as well as these to show my dealer if necessary.


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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2010, 06:47:21 PM »
any chance of a link to the other forum thread?

ta

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2010, 10:31:05 AM »
I have a 2010 model honda jazz ( 3 months old ),  It is displaying the same erratic steering characteristics described my many of your other members on their earlier series models. Namely stiff steering and unpredictable power steering whilst trying to drive in a straight line, particularly at motorway speeds. As one would expect, the supplying dealer, and Honda Customer Services, were totally dismissive, and deny that any problem exists. Can any one suggest the best way forward in this case ?

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2010, 11:28:29 PM »
Just a quick update to my previous post.
I had the steering rack of my Jazz replaced by the dealer. I had to pay for the service charge (about £270). The steering does self centre now. The 'sticky' feeling of the steering is improved, but it still doesn't feel as good as in some other cars I have driven. Anyway driving is better now as I don't have to constantly correct the steering position. Hope things won't get worse after some time

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2010, 07:55:54 AM »
I have a 2010 model honda jazz ( 3 months old ),  It is displaying the same erratic steering characteristics described my many of your other members on their earlier series models. Namely stiff steering and unpredictable power steering whilst trying to drive in a straight line, particularly at motorway speeds. As one would expect, the supplying dealer, and Honda Customer Services, were totally dismissive, and deny that any problem exists. Can any one suggest the best way forward in this case ?

Geoff

Perhaps you could (as others have done) print this thread and show it to the dealer, or else perhaps contact one of the dealers who has already replaced a steering rack for a forum member. Mine was done by Avonvale Solihull 0121 744 7744.

However this is the first I have heard of a GE showing this problem and it may be that you have to wait until a few more GE cases come to light before a problem is acknowledged.  A bit worrying as we changed one of our GDs for a GE in March this year (no problems so far) and are due to change the other one in about 2 weeks time.

Regards

Nigel

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2010, 08:16:46 PM »
Both our (Japanese made) Jazz GD's have never had a steering problem, but neither of them will 'self-centre' from full lock without a little help from the steering wheel for the first bit.

If you look how small the turning circle is for the Jazz this is really not surprising, and as an engineer I think it is unrealistic for people to expect the steering to self-centre without initial help when the wheels are turned through such a large angle relative to the straight ahead position.

I can't comment on any other 'problems' because I have never experienced them!
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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2010, 02:16:51 PM »
Indeed. My EX Jazz has a tighter turning circle than my 2002 Micra had. No steering problems (yet) here.

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2010, 07:43:13 AM »
I've got a 2003 Australian delivery Jazz Vti (1.5 litre) with the same steering trouble described in the opening post in the column. My mechanic can't find anything wrong. I've driven a 2006 Jazz & the steering was lighter, but more importantly had more feel and was not as stiff and wooden. Does anyone know if you can fit the 2006 spec rack & electric motor assembly into the earlier spec Jazz? The rest of the car is so good, I'd spend the $$ if I knew it would work.

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2010, 09:00:36 PM »
Having just got a new( to me) 2006 Jazz 1.4SE auto, I was having palpitations reading all these stories about the steering. So I felt I had to take it out on our nearby Motorway to try it.
Since I've had it( only 5 days) I've only be driving on normal roads. Well I have just got back and can honestly say I had no steering probs at all. I covered about 20 miles and got up to 80 mph. It kept straight and I even let go of the steering wheel momentarily to test it. OK its a calm evening with no wind, but so far no probs at all..Fingers crossed because Ive got a 170 mile motorway trip to Devon coming up soon. ;D

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2010, 10:00:44 AM »
Hi All..  After years of happy VW driving.. and also my wife's wonderful TOYOTA Corolla VVti (2002 plate) for the last 5 years we decided to go for our first Honda ever.  In March 2010 we bought a brand new 2010 Honda Jazz 1.4 and it's a great little car.... EXCEPT for the steering !!  The Toyota was so precise and easy to drive at low or high motorway speeds - exactly like it was on rails. The Jazz however is very unsettling !!  It does exactly what others are describing around the centre point when motorway driving. It wanders away from a straight line so that you have to constantly correct it. The correction feels stiff, then gives and it over-corrects.. you then have to re-correct it in the other direction, which is again stiff... then it  gives again and over-corrects. It feels like a constant battle on the motorway and the weirdest steering feel I've ever experienced.     I told the Honda dealer in Milton Keynes within a week of taking ownership and they said it may need bed in as it was brand new... and that of course they would fix it if it continued.  They are a great dealership and I fully expect that they will do just that.  Now... we've had it for 6 months and done 6k+ miles and it is still stiff so I'm taking it back to be rectified shortly.  Will post up how it goes from there.   When I was a kid I used to build bikes from old bits. Exactly the same feel and problem was hit several times on my cycles... If I over tightened the steering bearing even slightly the bike would feel EXACTLY like my new Jazz and require constant correction as I rode it. A slight loosening sorted it out on my bikes and I fully expected that 6k+ motoring would sort out the Jazz too. Maybe Honda are too good.. and it needs 100k+ use to wear it in :)

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2010, 10:36:34 AM »
Hello,everyone first time in here ~
i got same issue with the power steering problem i bought a second car from private seller. the car is 07 model jazz. the guy bought this vechile on may of 2008. i think my car still in warranty. the steering is quite sticky and quite hard to control it. really stiff. is that i can go any dealer to get this problem solved or i have to go the one i bought this car?
really apprecated for someone answer me. i will print this thread and show to the dealer hopefully they can help me fix the problem~~

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2010, 11:59:11 AM »
I had success at the second attempt with the dealer by printing off this thread. My car is a 07 and the steering has been fine since the steering rack has been replaced. Good Luck!

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2010, 12:04:21 PM »
Cheers dds, thanks for the reply. just wanna know is that every dealer service centre i can go or have to go the one i bought this car?

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