Having had a closer look I'm not surprised.
Where that bit of leather/PVC or whatever touches the side plastic, the plastic is a semi-sharp solid edge.
Not the best of designs.
I suspect the 'robots' sit in the middle of the seat base, not sliding in and across from the side?
I not think that removing that plastic will help, my driver seat upholstery cracked exactly in middle of that artificial leatherDoes look strange. Could it be cuts from a metal watch strap or charm bracelet whilst adjusting seat height?
(https://i.ibb.co/RT84KMd/353494-D7-7-EC2-400-E-B06-B-43193234-A2-BF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CKLsyXD)
It’s looking like cracks same shape.
I not think that removing that plastic will help, my driver seat upholstery cracked exactly in middle of that artificial leatherLet me know how you get on with dealer warranty claim. I’m awaiting response from Honda, so will update forum with outcome.
(https://i.ibb.co/RT84KMd/353494-D7-7-EC2-400-E-B06-B-43193234-A2-BF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CKLsyXD)
It’s looking like cracks same shape.
I wonder if this would invalidate the warranty :
https://www.autoglym.com/leather-cleaner-balm
More to the point, would it help ?
or
Are those side panels vinyl, in which case normal baby oil would be best.
It's on my list to check later.Nope
If you press leather with a finger, it produces spider like creases whereas vinyl doesn't.
Depending on that test it's either leather balm or baby oil on the shopping list.
Thinking again about @Roman issue, could that be a jacket with an unfastened zip that's dropped between the seat and closed door, or something along those lines as it doesn't look like natural crack/rip
Another one from Japan
This time it`s honda FIT 2020 e:HEV (Jazz MK4)
https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0001231286/SortID=23975834/ (https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0001231286/SortID=23975834/)
Driver used car half year
picture somewere in middle of page
https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0001231286/SortID=23975834/ImageID=3510675/ (https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0001231286/SortID=23975834/ImageID=3510675/)
And in Japan dealers replacing seat covers
Translate page with google there many reports on this thread.
For what it’s worth, checked my Crosstar seat and all ok. Presumably the “water repellent “ upholstery does not (so far!) have the same problem as the EX.The fabric covering my Crosstar's seats includes the sides.
The diagonal cracking in the pictures looks to me more like a shear stress failure rather than abrasion on a sharp edge. This might happen if the occupant "shuffles" backwards and forwards on top of the seat whilst the lower edge of the seat sides is restrained. That's a perfectly natural thing for the driver to do, so the seat ought to be designed to cope with it. Either the design is wrong (material too stiff, maybe?) or its not been manufactured correctly.
Regarding the use of conditioner, these products are generally intended to help keep the surface clean. Faux leather is plastic so the conditioner won't soak in to keep the material supple in the way it would with real leather.
...What's the consensus on the EX steering wheel, leather or not?I think all the ‘leather’ is plastic.
General cleaning product or leather cleaner/protective cream?
Thanks
Don't know what popped into my head but I wondered if the heater was drying out the plastic, pvc, faux-leather, whatever, and making it brittle.
I adjusted my bonnet catch, now closes more easily and still shuts flush.
No other car manufacturer has such poor quality.
To sportse
Try to close boot when one of doors opened,
I expiriensed boot closing problems before with Suzuki Vitara, when you try to close boot agresively the air not escaping from cabin throught boot valves efectively, and boot not closing.
It's a strange design - you can't push the bonnet down to lock as it will bend, so the official workshop method of closing it showed to me by the workshop manager is to lift it high and throw it down!
That realy weird, to close bonnet on my Jazz i lifting it 10-20cm from locked position and relese it.
Didn't meet any of this 'loads of silly problems'... even the bonnet and tailgate close 'normal'. Maybe our dealer did before delivery what Kremmen did himself?
There are lots of people in the UK finding very poor pre-delivery inspections sadly - looks like you have better dealers there.
Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.
Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?
Same for the tailgate - any attempt to close it normally results in it only half locking if the other doors are shut.
To get it to lock you have to do a similar procedure of lifting it high and throwing it down... with another big bang.
Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.
Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?
Same for the tailgate - any attempt to close it normally results in it only half locking if the other doors are shut.
To get it to lock you have to do a similar procedure of lifting it high and throwing it down... with another big bang.Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.
Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?
Page 180 of my, but also your manual:
To close the tailgate, grab the inner handle,
pull the tailgate down and push it closed
from outside.
So don't try to throw it closed.
Damn this should be printed on first page ;)Same for the tailgate - any attempt to close it normally results in it only half locking if the other doors are shut.
To get it to lock you have to do a similar procedure of lifting it high and throwing it down... with another big bang.Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.
Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?
Page 180 of my, but also your manual:
To close the tailgate, grab the inner handle,
pull the tailgate down and push it closed
from outside.
So don't try to throw it closed.
Honda do seem to have dropped the ball with the Mk4 Jazz.
Loads of silly problems that shouldn’t happen to a manufacturer that has been in business many years.
Basic things like seat material, etc.
On mine, the boot catch and bonnet catch require slamming. I’ve complained to several dealers and they say that’s how Honda designed them!
No other car manufacturer has such poor quality.
Maybe to a tiny extent excusable if you were a brand new manufacturer with a cutting edge car that no one else had… but not for a mainstream manufacturer.
It seems you have a different Jazz than most here.I seem to think so:
Maybe I have a Friday afternoon car?
...I adjusted the bonnet catch as per Kremmen's post. Need to look at it again though as it's still a bit of a high drop but much better than before.
I had the 'boot strap' fitted at time of purchase and don't have a problem when closing the boot.
It's easier to 'swing' it down to close it and sometimes a helping hand is required just before the latch connects but nothing close to a slam!
Hi, later I will also go and check my seat, although I would be surprised to see it damaged, I have so few kilometers on the car that I do not expect to find any damage,I sure if you driving alone only your side will be affected, i almost all time drive alone. No passenger sitting on front passenger seat every day.
but what happens only on the driver's seat (and therefore would suggest the wear of the seat) or also on that of the passenger (and therefore would suggest poor quality of the material)?
(Sorry for the mistakes I used Google translate)
You don't have to do anything. Your Elegance has no "leather" parts in the seats at all, so the problem does not exist for you. ;)There we in same boat :P
Hi Guys, I have a Jazz EX hybrid, 2021 reg, bought it from Holdcroft Honda about 6 months ago with 5600 on the clock,about a month ago I was cleaning the inside and noticed a series of rips/ delaminating of the drivers seat edge exactly as in the previous photos!, I’m not heavy, I’m 66 yrs of age so don’t rag it,don’t own a cat, We worked it out ,we’ve owned approximately 18/20 vehicles in that time and never ever owned one with such a badly damaged seat!! Took it back to Holdcroft who took photos and made a report and sent it Honda Warranty dept, after a few weeks they rung me today to say they think it’s wear and tear!! Really,get a grip, if this isn’t acknowledged and repaired/ replaced under warranty I’ll lose thousands when I come to change the car, never owned a Honda before and I can see this being the last, if this is how they treat customers who only 6 x months ago gave them £21000There is lots of evidence on line ,internationally ,that this is a problem, and that Honda is rectifying it under warranty. Or they are in some countries. This thread has become a bit bloated with other issues, so I am not sure anyone has yet made a successful warranty claim in the UK. But the fact remains ,if Honda have accepted liability in one country how can they with honour claim its fair wear and tear in another?.
Also ,as a last resort ,there may be protection under consumer law , for goods not fit for purpose. Companies certainly dont like receiving court papers or being sued,or having to employ lawyers. . Citizens advice bureau or Local Trading standards may be able to advise.I wouldn't leave that until last. A polite letter to Holcroft Honda reminding them of the "fitness for purpose" requirement of consumer law puts the onus on them to continue to argue with Honda (a comment mentioning that a search of the internet reveals that this problem has occurred elsewhere may be appropriate). Pretend leather sides to car seats should not crack up in a year, or even 10 years, if the material used is suitable for the usage. And for those where the cracking starts after the warranty period ends, if the material is inherently suitable then there's the latent defect provision.
No mine is fine. Checked the area and the upholstery is fine. Felt around a bit and there appears to be a groove in the foam behind the outer material. I think this gives it more flexibility
My driver’s side seat squab leatherette side has cracked, exposing the white inner material. The cracking appears to correspond to the area that creases when compressed.
Car is only 1 year old but 24k miles. I’m not a heavy or large person, no physical abrasion as on outer edge of seat, no cleaning products used and never experienced this issue with my previous cars at later age and higher mileage.
Has anyone else the same issue? Dealer have taken photos and contacting Honda, so await outcome.
Just checked my Jazz SR, thinking surely my seat is fine as I’m so careful getting in and out, and shocked to see it cracking in the same place. I literally put no pressure on the side getting in and out and am so careful to keep the car pristine. I can’t believe this. :-[I have the same problem, like you I polish with "leather cleaner", & noted it last week cracks, took the car back to Honda Vertu Boston who are going to replace the drivers seat
I'm from Italy and I have the 8 year warranty too.
I had no issues in having the seat cushion replaced, I just went to the dealer, have them looking the seat, and then they got the ok from Honda in 1 day.
The seat arrived a couple of weeks later, I left the car for one day to have it replaced.
So far everything looks even better after 1 year.
My driver’s side seat squab leatherette side has cracked, exposing the white inner material. The cracking appears to correspond to the area that creases when compressed.
Car is only 1 year old but 24k miles. I’m not a heavy or large person, no physical abrasion as on outer edge of seat, no cleaning products used and never experienced this issue with my previous cars at later age and higher mileage.
Has anyone else the same issue? Dealer have taken photos and contacting Honda, so await outcome.