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weeleyboy

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Wheel compatability
« on: December 14, 2017, 03:40:08 PM »
I'm thinking of fitting 15 inch alloys to my 2013 Jazz in place of the 16 inch ones and wonder if the wheels from the Civic will fit the Jazz ok?

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2017, 03:43:58 PM »
There is a website that cross references the specifications of various alloy wheels, but I can't find it. Basically the Jazz is compatible with many other models like Vauxhall Corsas, Rover 25s, but we would need the years to know which ones are compatible.
Not the one I was looking for, but this one is a start https://www.wheel-size.com/
« Last Edit: December 14, 2017, 04:00:37 PM by Ozzie »

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2017, 03:56:46 PM »
I'm thinking of fitting 15 inch alloys to my 2013 Jazz in place of the 16 inch ones and wonder if the wheels from the Civic will fit the Jazz ok?

Civic wheels from 2006 onwards have 5 studs,  Jazz only has 4 - so answer is no, they will not fit

Try mytyres.co.uk they have a huge range of alloys from 14" upwards at reasonable prices - use link below (for some reason in pictures they show 5 studs but description below rims states 4 holes on 100mm PCD which is correct for Jazz) - mytyres prices are not much more than I paid per wheel to have my alloys refurbished about 6 months ago.  You will need to go for higher profile tyres to keep rolling radius the same - On Jazz the 15" tyres are 175/65  and the 16" 185/55 (and 185 are pricey,  I am thinking about getting 15" alloys for my wifes GE Si as both ride comfort and tyre price are greatly improved).

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/komplettrad.pl?dsco=110&language=EN&typ=alu&CGISESSID=205aba3217b6787821d5bdbbc9b6f008&manufacturer=HONDA&class=Jazz&type=GE6%2C+GG*%2C+GP1honda_jazz_08%7C2011-2015&variant=139956835099791972&TypSearch=Show+rims

« Last Edit: December 14, 2017, 06:36:42 PM by culzean »
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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2017, 07:37:17 PM »
Here is the site for what you need  https://www.wheel-size.com/

First enter Jazz to get details ,then see 'other car using this wheel size'  ( 15" 5 1/2J , 45 offset, 4 x100 pcd) which gives other cars using this wheel size.

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2017, 08:03:57 PM »
Sorry Ozzie !!! I have just repeated your post, that'll teach me to read  all the posts and engaging my brain before actions  :-[

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2017, 09:16:41 PM »
Sorry Ozzie !!! I have just repeated your post, that'll teach me to read  all the posts and engaging my brain before actions  :-[
No worries  :D

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2017, 12:50:28 PM »
I'm thinking of fitting 15 inch alloys to my 2013 Jazz in place of the 16 inch ones and wonder if the wheels from the Civic will fit the Jazz ok?

Why 15's?

They'll look lost in the Arches in my opinion.

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2017, 01:12:11 PM »
I asked Honest John {https://www.honestjohn.co.uk ) if this would improve the ride and tyre noise levels and got this reply
"It is improved by switching to 15s and preferably Michelin Cross Climate tyres that also give a better ride, but one reader found that you can get compliant Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons all weather tyres in the rare Honda 16-inch size. No worries about speedo, etc swapping from 16s to 15s because the rolling circumferences of the deeper profile tyres are roughly the same."

The smaller rim has a deeper profile tyre and is a more comfortable ride with less road noise. I would be interested to hear from others experiences.
If the overall diameter is roughly the same I can't see why they look odd in the wheel arches.

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2017, 01:30:50 PM »
If the overall diameter is roughly the same I can't see why they look odd in the wheel arches.

Maybe having a small amount of wheel proportionally compared to tyre?

I think the 16 inch wheels tyres look too thin, and am looking at getting some all season tyres fitted, so will check out the Goodyear option. They seemed to do almost as well as the Michelin CrossClimate tyres in a test I read on-line.

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2017, 01:45:21 PM »
I'm thinking of fitting 15 inch alloys to my 2013 Jazz in place of the 16 inch ones and wonder if the wheels from the Civic will fit the Jazz ok?

Why 15's?

They'll look lost in the Arches in my opinion.

The 15" wheels with higher profile tyre give a much better ride and an infinitely greater choice of tyres at much lower prices.  When I take winter tyres off my wifes Jazz in March and refit 16" wheels I am always struck by how much harsher the ride is, and noisier - she would happily leave 175/65R15 on all year round.  The handling does not feel quite a sharp with higher profile,  but the Jazz is no sports car and unless you want to drive like a loony it will not be so noticeable.

This could well be the year I get 15" alloys for her car and enjoy the benefit of much cheaper tyres, a lot more choice of tyres and better ride (her 16" alloys may well need a refurb anyway and that costs around £50 a wheel about the same as brand new 15" alloys from mytyres - so will actually be cheaper rather than spending more money buying rare and expensive 185/55 tyres again).

The outside diameter is same as 185/55R16 but there is more tyre and less wheel,  so space taken up in wheel arch is exactly the same, maybe black / dark grey alloys would look better as difference in colour between tyre and wheel would not be so different.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2017, 02:20:36 PM by culzean »
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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2018, 08:41:58 PM »
I've seen some 15 inch alloys from a 1999 Mazda MX5 for sale and wonder if they would suit my Jazz. They have a 100mm PCD so bolt holes would line up but they are currently fitted with 195/50R/15 tyres which don't seem to be a recommended size for the Jazz.

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2018, 08:57:49 PM »
Plenty of information on wheels on this site if you use search, be careful of offset and wheel location spigot diameter as well as rolling radius which will affect speedometer reading, also fitting non standard wheels may interest your insurance company.
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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2018, 09:03:06 PM »
We have them on our MX5, centre bore is 54.1 but Jazz needs 56.1mm (or greater which can be reduced with spigot rings).
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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2018, 09:04:28 PM »
Offsets are the same but MX5 wheels are:
Bolt pattern   4 x 100.00 x 54.00
and Jazz is     4 x 100.00 x 56.00.

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Re: Wheel compatability
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2018, 09:57:10 PM »
We have them on our MX5, centre bore is 54.1 but Jazz needs 56.1mm (or greater which can be reduced with spigot rings).
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Note to OP it is the spigot that keeps wheel running true and takes weight of vehicle, it is important that wheel studs are there to clamp wheel to hub and not take vehicle weight.  If the spigot hole in the wheel is too small for the Jazz hub it will not work and the hole in mazda wheel is 2mm too small for Jazz - as TG says if hole in wheel is larger than hub you can get spigot rings to make up the difference,  but it gets messy.

You can get brand new alloys from mytyres for around £60 so why buy something that is not right (and secondhand as well with unknown history) - it costs £45 to £50 to get an alloy refurbished so buying new is a no-brainer.

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/komplettrad.pl?cart_id=25720392.110.89072&Cookie=&CGISESSID=6d070bcebc7e2529913391a2df7d4690&Change=Rim&language=EN&dsco=110&typ=alu&Zoll=15&RadHerstellerFilter=.&Hersteller=DEZENT&Typ=DEZENT%20TD%20graphite%20anthrazit%20matt&Farbe=anthrazit%20matt&ShowRim=0&BestellNr=TTDK2GA38#MontageBild

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