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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Farewell to the Jazz, hello to the HR-V
« Last post by Nicksey on Today at 12:56:49 PM »
I have recently being offered a great deal on the HR-V if I traded the Jazz in (which I paid cash for). I have owned the Jazz for only 1.5 years, and 18000 miles, so still have 3.5 years/4 services left too. The cash plus the Jazz offer was ridiculously cheap and I can see why people do the swap.

Me... not for me. Having moved down to a Jazz because my previous Renault Capturs were too big (just one reason), the last thing I want is another SUV type sized vehicle.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Farewell to the Jazz, hello to the HR-V
« Last post by JB on Today at 12:54:06 PM »
I have [sport, normal, eco] in my jazz advance sport.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Nicksey on Today at 12:48:05 PM »
I certainly would not buy a car with that fault. Period.
If the manufacturer does not resolve it free of charge, I will never buy another Honda.
And not having repair kits available for a common fault is disgusting.

UK consumer law is quite clear on this issue with cars..
Honda should be ashamed of their actions or lack of them.

Maybe its because the fault is only now appearing. It seems to be an age related, rather than mileage related issue. Cars reaching the 3.5 year old period, and by all accounts limited to a batch. I would hope that as I type, Honda are already in the throes of acquiring this part, and are waiting for dealers to start saying their customers are getting angry. I would then hope, that rather a damaging deluge of complaints about driving safety standards, that the matter will be dealt with quietly and calmly in the favour of the customer.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Steve_M on Today at 12:43:04 PM »
The numbers on the Japan list are all Japan market VIN, they do not use a 17 digit VIN, they only have the model code (GR3 etc. and 7 digits. So these numbers have no relevance to European models.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Lord Voltermore on Today at 12:38:53 PM »
I am a bit confused by the chassis numbers on the list on page 4.   They show 7 digits.  My car appears to end in  6 digits    2021** 

If I ignore  the first digit  this appears to put my car within the GR3 1200001  -GR3 1218092
May21 3rd  year of Reiwa  (21 may 2021) to 2 Feb  4th year of Reiwa   (2 feb 2022)  which is about right as the car was delivered in October 2021.   

Is this correct?

It might be that the 7 digits are referring to the engine number, as the brake servo is bolted onto the engine (on the backside).
My 2022 Jazz has engine number GR3-LEB8-3102084 , condensed to GR3-3102084 there is no match in the list.
I guess the Honda dealer or importer should know what the 7 digits are referring to.

It could be the engine number  . My engine number   is  about 95 thousand lower than  the 1200001 number and its not impossible the engine was made before 21 may 2021  ,even if the car itself was assembled later. There was chip shortage at the time.    My car is only about 1 year older than yours yet your engine number is 2 million higher than mine.  I doubt they made 2 million more engines in a year, or had 95,000 in stock when my car was built.

So if its based on engine number my car is in the clear   :P I wonder what changed.    If its Chassis number I am not. :(.   Maybe its better not to know  or worry about it.   This is my first Honda car  so I am not particularly brand loyal. But  I still think its better the devil you know and which has  a good reputation for reliability  than changing to another  brand who might be hiding their  secrets .   
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Farewell to the Jazz, hello to the HR-V
« Last post by Pogglefish on Today at 12:33:59 PM »
So I traded my Jazz in for an HR-V last week.  I was actually planning to get another Jazz, but a combination of deals available on the HR-V, several new ones that they wanted off the forecourt on 24 plates, and the particular one that I bought being in a the (let's say) distinct colour of Sand Khaki, actually made it about £15 a month cheaper for me to lease an HR-V than a new Jazz.

After one week, my initial thoughts on the difference between a Mk.4 Jazz and the current HR-V are as follows:

- The HR-V is a lot more comfortable.  Like the Jazz, the steering wheel still doesn't come out quite as far as I'd ideally like, but the seats are much better.  It is also a little quieter insider at high speed.

- Whilst, seats up,  the boot in the HR-V is not noticeably different in total size to that of a Jazz, it is shallower and therefore has noticeably more floor space, so bags do not have to put on top of each other as often.  Seats down, there is quite a bit more load space.

- The HR-V has three driving modes (sport, normal, eco) as compared to just two (normal and eco) in the Jazz.  The only use for sport so far found is when it is necessary to accelerate quickly on (say) a short slip-road which brings me to:

- The HR-V can accelerate faster than the Jazz, but both cars are equally happy with the high-speed cruise.

- Being a bigger car, the HR-V's fuel consumption is slightly worse; I averaged high fifties in the Jazz, low fifties in the HR-V so far.

- The HR-V has a better stereo.  Actually I think the unit might well be the same, but it has more and better speakers.

- The HR-V has some toys that the Jazz does not have, but none of these are things you could not live without (hill descent control (why? it's not a 4x4 and doesn't pretend to be), dual zone air-con, automatic tailgate, air vent diffusers and possibly a couple of others so minor I have forgotten them).

- The HR-V does not have silly plastic fins on its wheels.

In summary therefore, the HR-V is very slightly better than a Jazz.  It is not, in my opinion, £8,000 better than a Jazz (which would be the difference in full new price, top of the range to top of the range) but if you lease/PCP your cars as I do, and you can get an HR-V for less per month than a Jazz with all the care packages thrown in for free, the change is probably worthwhile.

- Pogglefish
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Driver side electric folding mirror
« Last post by olduser1 on Today at 11:35:43 AM »
Get a used Honda one same spec from your local breakers yard. The Chinese made electricsl parts are not worth the effort.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by madasafish on Today at 11:08:45 AM »
I certainly would not buy a car with that fault. Period.
If the manufacturer does not resolve it free of charge, I will never buy another Honda.
And not having repair kits available for a common fault is disgusting.

UK consumer law is quite clear on this issue with cars..
Honda should be ashamed of their actions or lack of them.

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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by RA273 on Today at 10:44:32 AM »
I am a bit confused by the chassis numbers on the list on page 4.   They show 7 digits.  My car appears to end in  6 digits    2021** 

If I ignore  the first digit  this appears to put my car within the GR3 1200001  -GR3 1218092
May21 3rd  year of Reiwa  (21 may 2021) to 2 Feb  4th year of Reiwa   (2 feb 2022)  which is about right as the car was delivered in October 2021.   

Is this correct?

It might be that the 7 digits are referring to the engine number, as the brake servo is bolted onto the engine (on the backside).
My 2022 Jazz has engine number GR3-LEB8-3102084 , condensed to GR3-3102084 there is no match in the list.
I guess the Honda dealer or importer should know what the 7 digits are referring to.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Cobb2 on Today at 10:10:20 AM »
For those interested or perhaps you have seen it already since you are worried about your brakes and been trawling the web -  there is an interesting recent thread on Honest John  concerning Brake Servo Failures.

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/197644/honda-jazz-hybrid

Looking at the Japanese translation (thank you for doing that FMIB)  like "Lord V"my car might be in the list if you ignore previous letters and numbers, but not sure if that will be the case or relevant here. I have mentioned it to my dealer but they say they can only go on what UK Honda say. The dealer has dealt with several of these faults before and currently has one order for someone coming in mid April. Mine may get diagnosed today if they have time and then they may contact Honda for goodwill. As I said before we will see!
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