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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 => Topic started by: bus_ter on December 03, 2020, 03:58:21 PM
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Just curious.
What sort of tyre Life are owners getting.
I changed mine about 2 years ago, only because they had become brittle and lots of cracks.
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I use Michelin Energy Saver+, and I do half of my 60,000 miles each year on motorways, but I manage to get 80,000 miles from the rears and 40,000 miles from the fronts if I can avoid punctures.
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I just replaced mine at 22,500 miles as they were down to 3 mm (possibly 40,000 before they were illegal). The rears I replaced to have the same all-weather tyres all around. The rears were great even though one of them had been on the car since before I got it, and I had put 44,500 miles on it.
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I use Michelin Energy Saver+, and I do half of my 60,000 miles each year on motorways, but I manage to get 80,000 miles from the rears and 40,000 miles from the fronts if I can avoid punctures.
80,000 :o That is some serious mileage from tyres. :) You had your moneys worth out of them!
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I must admit that I found the wear on the Dunlop SP 2030s was really bad on my 2013 Mk 2. At 12,500 miles the fronts were down to just over 3 mm.
On my first Mk3 the Michelin Energy Savers on the front had 6 mm after 20,000 miles so I reckon they would have done around 40,000.
I've got 2030s on the new car but, at current mileages, it will be 4 years plus before I reach 12,000 miles!
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I reckon 80,000 from a set of hard compound tyres, on the rear, is the norm for a small car, unless you are tough on them. Motorway miles are perfect for tyre life unless you pick up punctures.
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The Jazz is predominantly a low mileage car and I guess a lot of tyres will be at the end of their useful life before the tread has dropped below the minimum requirements.
I have obeyed the same rules over my driving career.
Change tyres when they get to 3mm
Change tyres older than 7 years
Don't mix tyres on same axle, preferably all 4 the same
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I have a similar dilemma on my 2013 Civic.
Still on original tyres and pads. Tyres look fine, no cracking yet but then it's only done 23k and is garaged out of the sun's rays.
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I must admit that I found the wear on the Dunlop SP 2030s was really bad on my 2013 Mk 2. At 12,500 miles the fronts were down to just over 3 mm.
On my first Mk3 the Michelin Energy Savers on the front had 6 mm after 20,000 miles so I reckon they would have done around 40,000.
I've got 2030s on the new car but, at current mileages, it will be 4 years plus before I reach 12,000 miles!
That supports my feeling too, Dunlops are wearing fast. Well, that means I'm getting Michelins sooner for summer tires too. ;)
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I reckon 80,000 from a set of hard compound tyres, on the rear, is the norm for a small car, unless you are tough on them. Motorway miles are perfect for tyre life unless you pick up punctures.
I've not run one small car long enough to guage it to be honest, so it will be interesting to see the wear rate of the Michelin tyres on our Jazz. Non noticeble in the few months weve had it. :)
The longest Ive run one car, was 130,000 over 12rys in my Octavia. Branded tyres, Dunlop, Hankook and such, seemed to last on average upto 40,000. So, in my mind, that's why I have tyre life pegged as such. My Honda motorcycle will finish a rear tyre in less than 2000 miles!
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I reckon 80,000 from a set of hard compound tyres, on the rear, is the norm for a small car, unless you are tough on them. Motorway miles are perfect for tyre life unless you pick up punctures.
I've not run one small car long enough to guage it to be honest, so it will be interesting to see the wear rate of the Michelin tyres on our Jazz. Non noticeble in the few months weve had it. :)
The longest Ive run one car, was 130,000 over 12rys in my Octavia. Branded tyres, Dunlop, Hankook and such, seemed to last on average upto 40,000. So, in my mind, that's why I have tyre life pegged as such. My Honda motorcycle will finish a rear tyre in less than 2000 miles!
Great cars. I had a TDI estate. Pound for pound, probably the best car I have owned. The Jazz is a great car but is not ideal for distance cruising on UK roads, if you can call them that...:)
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I must admit that I found the wear on the Dunlop SP 2030s was really bad on my 2013 Mk 2. At 12,500 miles the fronts were down to just over 3 mm.
On my first Mk3 the Michelin Energy Savers on the front had 6 mm after 20,000 miles so I reckon they would have done around 40,000.
I've got 2030s on the new car but, at current mileages, it will be 4 years plus before I reach 12,000 miles!
We had Dunlop 2030's from new on our 2009 Jazz - it's a very soft tyre, was great in the 2009 and 10 winters! In some markets it's sold as an all-season tyre. IIRC they only lasted mid teens of miles, and that was with swapping them around to even out wear.
Replaced them with full winter Michelin Alpins in 15" wheels (tyres were about half the price of 16" ones at the time), ran the Alpins year round (still do) and each set is lasting 30K + miles.
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I've driven 550 000 km with my awesome Peugeot Partner, so I've experienced quite many tires too. And it's easy to compare, when the car remains the same. Michelins and Hankooks have had longest life and good driveability, Continentals wear fast and are too soft to my taste. In family's other cars I've got good experiences and decent lifetime with Goodyears too. Nokian tyres I dislike due to very soft tread, they feel a bit like old cross ply tyres.
Regretting I have to say, that in my experience French car manufacturers know how to make good and stable highway handling to a car. Germans can get to same level, but unfortunately Honda or other Japanese cars do not reach that level.
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Great cars. I had a TDI estate. Pound for pound, probably the best car I have owned. The Jazz is a great car but is not ideal for distance cruising on UK roads, if you can call them that...:)
Agreed 100%. Probably not the right forum for Octavia love, but the MK1 was a fantastic car. We had the 1.6 petrol, and it returned and avg of 48mpg. Biggest boot ever. We took ours on many european road trips. So many memories, the best I've ever owned too. :D
The Jazz is an amazing car, with a lot of virtues, but it is not a long distance comfort car. I drove our Octavia a total of 688 miles in one day on a road trip in 2012, I wouldnt be able to do that in a Jazz.
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Regretting I have to say, that in my experience French car manufacturers know how to make good and stable highway handling to a car.
I agree. I have had a few Citroen and Peugeots, and they make excellent cruising cars majoring on comfort. :)
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Just on Octavias, used a lot by taxi firms all over Europe. A testament to their longevity.
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I drove our Octavia a total of 688 miles in one day on a road trip in 2012. I wouldn't be able to do that in a Jazz
Or in a full electric :)
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Just on Octavias, used a lot by taxi firms all over Europe. A testament to their longevity.
Indeed. The old 1.9 TDi has clocked up 500k+ in a lot of vag cars, including the Octavia. Legendary engines in low BHP tune. :) Such a shame VAG cannot make them like that anymore.
Posted by: Kremmen
"Or in a full electric "
Agreed. Range is a real problem with electric cars right now. On that trip from the Czech Republic to Dunkirk, I wouldn't have been able to cope with all the recharing needed with a 200 miles range. My old Octavia needed one refill at an Aral station in Germany after 500 miles, and that tank then got us back to Suffolk. :D
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Talking about tyres, is it possible to fit tyres which are a bit more 'offroad'? I don't mean real offroad stuff, just tyres wich look a little bit more tough. Maybe something like the tyres of a Cross Polo. I really like that look haha.
I performed a Google search, but could't really find such tyres.
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Talking about tyres, is it possible to fit tyres wich are a bit more 'offroad'? I don't mean real offroad stuff, just tyres wich look a little bit more tough. Matbe something likt the tyres of a Cross Polo. I really like that look haha.
I performed a Google search, but could't really find such tyres.
Michelin Cross Climates
https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/michelin/crossclimate/175/65/R14/H/86/m?tyre=35184257&gclid=CjwKCAiAiML-BRAAEiwAuWVggoZZW9VKRVwOl_qD1SAaMAsbKZHThb65l5P8MDhErOIbboTBKjdxZxoC3fwQAvD_BwE
I have 15 inch CCs on my Mark 2 Jazz.. Work v well in mud.