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Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« on: August 27, 2023, 02:26:11 PM »
The rear discs were looking pretty crispy and handbrake performance had dropped...

Went for Mintex this time and Bosche pads, I see they are the same fitment as the Rover 25!


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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2023, 10:06:46 PM »
Nice one. How much were the discs?

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2023, 11:30:36 AM »
I thought the rears were drum brakes!? my 2003 is rear drums brakes i believe.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2023, 08:54:19 PM »
I thought the rears were drum brakes!? my 2003 is rear drums brakes i believe.
Later Mk 1's had disc brakes on the rear. My 2006 included.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2023, 01:34:00 PM »
I thought the rears were drum brakes!? my 2003 is rear drums brakes i believe.
Mine has discs all round.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2023, 02:29:56 PM »
Nice one. How much were the discs?

Off the top of my head, they were 27/28 quid delivered via eBay

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2023, 02:31:37 PM »
I thought the rears were drum brakes!? my 2003 is rear drums brakes i believe.

You're better off with the rear drums in my experience.

The rear discs are well known for poor handbrake performance, in comparison to the drums.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2023, 06:23:24 PM »
I thought the rears were drum brakes!? my 2003 is rear drums brakes i believe.

You're better off with the rear drums in my experience.

The rear discs are well known for poor handbrake performance, in comparison to the drums.
Usually caused by poor maintenance. Drum brakes require little maintenance (none), Rear  calipers and pins exposed at the rear of the wheel require maintenance every 2-3 years. They rarely get it and calipers/sliding pins seize.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2023, 10:42:05 PM »
I haven't serviced the sliding pins before but I might have to give that a try thanks. I haven't noticed any real difference difference the rear drums and rear discs on both our Jazz's. The brakes don't feel quite as sharp on the older Jazz with drum brakes but I think it could do with bleeding the brake system because it felt slightly better after the last time I bled them but didn't have time to do the whole system thoroughly.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2023, 10:51:05 AM »
I thought the rears were drum brakes!? my 2003 is rear drums brakes i believe.
Later Mk 1's had disc brakes on the rear. My 2006 included.

Change over was with that mild update (not facelift) in 2004.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2023, 01:05:03 AM »

Usually caused by poor maintenance. Drum brakes require little maintenance (none), Rear  calipers and pins exposed at the rear of the wheel require maintenance every 2-3 years. They rarely get it and calipers/sliding pins seize.

The regular braking performance was fine with the rear discs but there was no comparison between our original 02 plate with drums and the current 56 plate with the rear discs. With the drums you had complete confidence but not with the discs.

Even with new calipers and slide pins, the handbrake performance still isn't the best. There was supposedly some sort of advisory from Honda, that you should leave the car in gear. This also affected the Honda Civic too of the same era.

Here's an example thread, on this forum, from way back in 2010:

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=1186.0

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2023, 10:28:06 AM »
I totally stripped and cleaned my rear disks on 2012 Jazz and replaced pads with EBS (with a wear coating which cleaned the old disks). Since then handbrake performance has been superb.

Lack of skilled maintenance is a killer - as is faulty assembly - which is easy. The Cross in the caliper MUST be adjusted so the cross runs vertical/horizontal. And deviation and the pads do not seat properly and braking performance is poor and the rear pads wear unevenly.  This is covered in the official workshop manual online .
It is not highlighted but I have seen some terrible examples on FB Jazz Owners Club.

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Re: Replaced the Rear Discs and Pads.
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2023, 11:30:55 PM »
I totally stripped and cleaned my rear disks on 2012 Jazz and replaced pads with EBS (with a wear coating which cleaned the old disks). Since then handbrake performance has been superb.

Lack of skilled maintenance is a killer - as is faulty assembly - which is easy. The Cross in the caliper MUST be adjusted so the cross runs vertical/horizontal. And deviation and the pads do not seat properly and braking performance is poor and the rear pads wear unevenly.  This is covered in the official workshop manual online .
It is not highlighted but I have seen some terrible examples on FB Jazz Owners Club.

Perhaps there's some difference with your 2012 model compared to the 2002~2008 range?

You wouldn't get the caliper to seat unless you align the cross on the piston with the pin on the pads in my experience. Was first caught out with that, on a KIA Picanto, many moons ago!  ;D

Braking performance wasn't an issue, as far as I could tell but handbrake performance pretty poor.

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