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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 => Topic started by: 123Drive! on February 02, 2018, 04:30:04 PM
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My 2009 i-Shift ,with 80k miles, broke down this morning. The transmission warning light came on and the car just stalled. It restarted after 2 mins and I tried to engage it to A1 but wasn't happening. Another 2 mins later, it got going but after 5 mins it happened all again, coming to rest at a busy single carriageway.
Guess who stopped and offered help? A lady with a white newer Jazz stopped to see if we were ok! I thank her and also said how lucky she is driving a manual, lol!
In another tread recently, I mentioned my 1st gear seems jerky. I don't hear much with the i-Shift failure in this forum. The car is in Honda now. They think could be ecu update, sensor, if not the clutch (£650)! Will keep informed.
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Unfortunately, Honda has said the clutch and actuator needs replacing, £2000! OMG!
I have been looking at other alternatives, mainly sending it away for repair.
http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/honda-civic-clutch-actuator-gear-actuator-repairs/
This company said it doesn't need reprogramming if using the same gearbox for repairs.
Has anyone been in this situation? Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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There is a bit on the Civic forum re Ishift and it's problems. All I did was put in Ishift any problems and it came up with the Civic forum. It appears that Sinspeed do a lot of the Ishift type actuators because it seems Honda are not alone in producing an Ishift type transmission. I came across their add and I seem to remember the repair is less than £200 and they try and turn around within 24hrs. please check yourself.
Good luck what a bummer!
Certainly worth a try.
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I did a bit more research and I might have given you suspect info. Reading the Civic forum there are several unhappy customers of Sinspeed. However, the one I actually saw was an Ebay ad for San Cars. Al I did was punt in Honda Ishift and it came up down the page. They are in Leicester but no phone number. He appears to be OK. Another is ECUSolutions Wales on 0800 2465606.
Hope this is of some help. Makes me concerned about mine. Bye the bye a lifetime warranty seems to be the order of the day so what Honda got wrong one wonders.
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Thanks auntyneddy for all the information. I also find this Northampton mechanic, automobilklub, Daniel. He seems to be quite popular and well reviewed. And reasonable cost too. But he is really busy.
I m devastated about the whole event. The Jazz is so reliable and I have great expectations. My Civic Bel Air auto ran for 18 yrs before I sold it to my former pupil. I hope your i-Shift is alright now.
Anyway, I will be going to Honda on Monday and see what's happening.
Thanks again. Nice weekend!
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I didn't suggest the 'automobilklub' as he seemed overwhelmed with work but as you say he does get exceptionally good write ups. Good luck, I really do not understand Honda's rip off prices with this part. Clearly it is not a major problem to fix and if repairers are offering a lifetime warranty, why can't Honda be a little more reasonable with the cost of a new unit.
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You hit the nail on the head!, auntyneddy!
The car is old now so why not keep customer happy as they will earn the money from labour costs anyway. Plus they don't have to guarantee the actuator.
My old Civic had problems with the Lamba sensor and the old dealer just said we can do original one for £300 or £110 for Lucas. Common sense dictates.
But looks like I will go to a gearbox specialist. AM motors in Kingsbury has been recommended as it's near my work. Will Keep in touch.
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A quick update. The Jazz is now fixed, £320! automobilklub in Northampton done the job for me. Daniel, the mechanic, test drive the car with me, making sure I am happy before handing the payment. I drove another 60 miles back home and the car was very smooth. He basically repaired the actuator and reprogram the system. He also accommodate me by doing the work in his home which quickened the repairs. Really appreciate his efforts and professionalism. Highly recommended.
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Excellent. I know exactly how good you feel.
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Thanks Jocko! It was either paying £2k or scrapped the car which meant it would have to be a brand new car. Apart from financial reasons, there's not a car I say hand on heart I love except the Alfa Romeo Giulietta...!
But the Jazz has been well looked after and having previous experience of Honda, should run for a few years to come. So was in denial the system failed. Anyway, gave it a good old wash this morning.
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Well done, it must be a tremendous weight of your mind. You also have the knowledge that if you hadn't tried and listened to Honda you would have been well out of pocket.
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I've done 27k in my iShift so far, so good. It is a 2010 model EX iShift.
I have not taken it in to Hendy Honda for its service and MOT this year. For the first time I have taken it to Volksberg and Newbold in Torquay.
I think the service cost at Hendy would be in the region of £275, then add £15 for a rental car to get home in. Then £8 in top up fuel for the rental car.
Would anyone recommend extending the warranty? I have had it under warranty since I bought it four years ago. Never had to use the warranty, nor call the AA service included with the warranty.
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It's a difficult one. If we told you not to, and then breakdown in a few months you are going to blame us. TBH, my car has done 80k miles and had no issues what so ever, only wear and tear like tyres bulbs and wipers. But my actuator failed and cost £320 to repair. That's the only thing that went wrong.
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My Jazz, at 100+ K miles and 12 years old just cost £324 for a gearbox repair. How many years warranty would that buy?
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My Ishift came with 2 yrs warranty. They argued about the brakes, fixed after a strong word. Car had full Honda service history which of course you don't see. Then I found that the brake fluid had not been changed at 3 yrs. They did this again after a strong word. The rust that appeared within 3 months was a case of you can buy a touch up pen!!!!!!When I mentioned this to Honda, it was very much ignored. So, my only dealings with a main dealer will be the ONLY one I shall have. As to the warranty, it was all in the price nothing free about it. I looked into the warranty question and as Jocko puts it, cost of repairs against many £100's per annum, which is the best bet given the reliability of the Jazz? I had my last service done locally, when I wanted it done, no hanging around lift home and collected when ready and a bill for £150 including changing the Ishift box oil ( I supplied this) and a MOT.
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Yes definitely if the "free" warranty runs out then might as well use the money for extended warranty on maintance. If the car is serviced according to the book, then it should be reliable. Even if you encounter a problem like mine, £320.should fix the i-Shift actuator.
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I have heard it said that all these actuators, including Honda, are made by Bosch. Did your repair man make any mention of it? My Jazz i SHIFT is at 30k. If I got to 80k and that failed, I would consider I had my money out of it.
I would still repair it as my body is Dinitrol'd and it is over maintained mechanically.
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Had a chat with the £350 i-shift repair man from Northampton who does 2/3 of these every week, he says there is nothing you can do to prolong the life and it WILL go one day. Mine has done 40k and is fine, however the clock is probably ticking !!!
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Is life expectancy related to type of usage? Urban driving with innumerable gear changes will cause a lot more wear to everything in the drivetrain compared to out-of-town driving with far fewer gear changes.
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Is life expectancy related to type of usage? Urban driving with innumerable gear changes will cause a lot more wear to everything in the drivetrain compared to out-of-town driving with far fewer gear changes.
Agree, that is the same problem as with normal manual gearbox bearing failures on GD, my wife did short journeys in her GD, my mileage was always long distance commuting on good A and B roads. The cars were identical 53 plate 1.4 and her gearbox got so noisy at around 80K that it had to be fixed, my gearbox was till fine at 120K when it got traded in. They both had gearbox molyslip in, and I am sure that without it my wifes bearing would have failed sooner because she did a lot more low gear mileage than I did, putting more strain on the bearing.
There is a lot of sense in the 'motorway miles' being better for a car than local mileage. High mileage does not hurt modern cars, in fact I am wary of cars that have done only small annual mileages as being potentially more liable to give problems.
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No lexi, I didn't ask him if they were made by Bosch. I will next time. I guessed these semi-automatic have a shelf-life. Unfortunately when we brought it, no one told us. But at least for now, my car is working and lucky I didn't have to pay £2k for repairs!