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pd

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Hi, I've just had my Jazz pass the MOT and my mechanic changed the oil and fixed the  CVT Judder as the CEL light was on and the D light was flashing . 2 days later the light was on again and I had to wait for the engine to warm up before the gearbox would engage.
My mechanic had a google and probably read this forum and said this was a Jazz 'thing' and the work around was to use the paddles to put the gearbox into 1 st gear just to move off then go back to auto . This was great for a couple of days , no Judder and It worked every time.
Now this doesn't work at all, I can only move if I'm in reverse and going into Manual makes no difference, even if I wait for 15 mins with the engine running .

Any ideas folks?

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PD

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2020, 02:53:19 PM »
A shot in the dark, have you checked the gearbox oil level?

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2020, 03:46:50 PM »
Hi Vic , well it was Serviced, oil changed and ran lovely for a couple of days , the oil level is fine .
then to get it to drive I had to press the 7 speed button to put it into Manual ad it would drive then i could go back to Auto and it was fine, now it wont go at all.
My mechanics diagnostics wont tell him exactly whats wrong so he wanted to drive it to his mates garage to use his tool, but cant now as it wont blooming move at all (except for reverse lol)

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2020, 04:04:16 PM »
Does the 2005 model have gear selection indicators in the instrument panel, in the speedometer for instance? If so does each letter light up when each position selected? I believe the 2005 model had P.R.N.D S.L. available. What I am looking for here is a selection problem.
If the gearbox selects reverse and the car moves then the transmission hasn't failed completely as I see it.

Vic.

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2020, 04:18:26 PM »
Did the mechanic use the correct fluid? Only the Honda fluid should be used.

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2020, 05:50:41 PM »
Yes Vic, if I go through gears the relevant letter lights up .

Jocko, I assume so,  you are talking about the transmission fluid ? I will ask him next week. Would that cause my issue if it was the wrong fluid used?

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2020, 06:31:15 PM »
As Jocko asks was the correct CVT fluid used when last changed? if not you may be able to flush then refll with another fresh fill of Honda CVT.
Let the forum know how you get on.

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2020, 09:12:10 AM »
just spoke to the Mechanic, he used the correct Honda CVT fluid . Hes baffled why it drives in reverse but not forward or not in manual mode .

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2020, 10:22:21 AM »
Not that I distrust the mechanic, it's a very long shot, but what colour is the oil on the gearbox dipstick?

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2020, 10:36:07 AM »
I think it was the usual yellowy oil colour .

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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2020, 11:27:42 AM »
Sounds normal. It wouldn't be the first time someone's put ATF in one  :-[

Well, it's either something to do with the oil change, or just a coincidence. It might be worth checking the connectors & wiring to the solenoid valve bank on the top of the gearbox, see if anything has been disturbed. A diagnostic might end up being the way to go, see if the gearbox has any stored codes that might give any clue.

I suppose it's possible that the oil change has flushed something around the system and it's lodged somewhere it can cause trouble. I might be tempted to try another oil change if nothing else helps.

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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2020, 01:20:02 PM »
Thanks Paul . I'll suggest another Oil change to my mechanic . He cleared the warning lights, and they haven't come on again but she still only goes into reverse . Hes thinking is a connector issue , his diagnostics don't tell him much so hes going to tow it to a garage ( Hes a mobile mechanic )

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2020, 07:58:32 PM »
Could your mechanic have used the later CVT fluid rather than the original CVT-F?

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Re: 2005 Jazz Se Cvt forward Drive not engaging but can reverse ..... Help!
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2020, 06:13:36 AM »
I think it was the usual yellowy oil colour .

My CVT fluid (genuine Honda) is PINK!

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2020, 08:54:53 PM »
My CVT fluid (genuine Honda) is PINK!

I always thought the genuine stuff was a orange-yellow colour, like in this post

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=8832.msg46223#msg46223

A quick google reveals all sorts of colours!

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