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Title: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 24, 2023, 05:41:11 PM
Well, I have bit the bullet and viewed 2013 Honda Jazz ES plus cvt auto 59k miles 1 owner from new. Overall car is good. This was only a once over and had the key and access to car for about 20 mins. But, if all goes well, should be owner of 2013 Honda Jazz ES plus cvt auto 7 gear this time next week. Car priced at £5,995 - & agreed 'in principle' £5k and our cat c honda jazz si...Does that seem a fair trade?
It started 1st time no problems. With foot on brake, handbrake on, dispay showed where gearstick was, P, N, R, D & S, they all lit up.
With gear in 'D' I took handbrake off but foot on brake and could feel the drive force forward. Radio was on, when I started car but turned off.
The air condition controls threw me a bit. When I started car 1 of the 4 buttons was already lit up! It was the recirculating air button that was illuminated. I couldn't seem to turn it off?! I pressed the fresh air coice button which illuminated and the recirculated button went out, as you would expect. But I couldn't seem to turn them totally off...even by using the 'Auto/On Off' button with fan controls. I take it, it is because this system is different to 1 in current jazz. I checked the fan controls and when pressed up/increase, fan turned on, could hear go faster and this was indicated in the digital circular display. That's as far as I got with that part of car system.
Checking under the hood, my wife commented how quiet it was, as I was checking the oil level. It came out as if it had just been seviced, colour of honey!
Checking the very front of engine, inasfar as I could, had knowledge of, both fans were firm and nothing was loose. The new bumper that has been fitted as part of the cat n repair was solid. Whole of car seemed firm and viewed all lines, all minimal gaps of wings, bumpers doors were fine & doors seem to shut a little more 'solid' than ours.
So quite happy with initial viewing and spoke with both owners of dealership and it is amazing who we know and they know! So we can ask others for references!
Finally, as it is a cat n, I have arranged for our local mechanic to view & onspect the car. Although the car pitch is few miles away, they more than happy to drop car off next week at garage and let my mechanic do his checks and will go with him on test drive. If he gives the nod, all should hopefully be well.
Will arrange a test drive with dealer before Friday & hope that goes as nicely. Only thing missing was the rear parcelshelf, but has been agreed I can take mine out of our 'si'.
Is there anything else I should check on the test drive?
Finally, 1 matter they did say, is that as car bought at auction, there is no service history and this is normal. Also due to gdpr, they cannot obtain any service history from Honda dealership themselves, but as they are in throws of obtaining logbook from dvla, it will be up to us as owner to ask honda what service history there is, I take it this is only if it was serviced by honda dealership & not if original owner local garage?
Thanks for reading and any replies/comments.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: bobby boy on January 24, 2023, 07:52:03 PM
Spare keys?
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Johnocyprus on January 24, 2023, 08:09:23 PM
What does the MOT history show?
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Westy36 on January 24, 2023, 09:21:28 PM
No history, cat N, one key, no V5C for £5000 + your car ??

I'll be very honest, but that doesn't sound like a deal I would be prepared to enter into.

When it comes to cars, there will be another one along shortly. You pays your money and all that, your choice, but I would be sitting on my cash until a motor arrives without the stories this one has.
 

Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: swhull on January 24, 2023, 09:36:12 PM
5k + your si… and as said above, 1 key , no history… or a parcel shelf. Probably give that a swerve personally.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: kevinivtec on January 25, 2023, 01:02:15 AM
same as others i would give this a swerve no parcel shelf???? documents??? mot history??? as said previously there will be another along shortly  much better
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Brakballe on January 25, 2023, 01:17:22 AM
A CVT doesna have "gears"..  :P Still heinous pricing but if you must...
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 25, 2023, 09:12:33 AM
Ta for pointers and make list of what not checked.
Mot history all checks all passes. Only advisory were 2 tyres over 9 year history history, and have to move items from mirror  nothing else.
Any reason not to think why the 1 owner not have had it serviced regularly? As say, see what pre inspection reveals. Cheers for replies.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Jocko on January 25, 2023, 09:36:07 AM
Having spent time last month looking for a replacement for my Jazz I know that there are not a lot of choices out there and that the prices are exorbitant. I paid £3,200 for an 09 Fabia with no service history, no spare key and no V5C. It is definitely a seller's market at the moment.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 25, 2023, 10:17:33 AM
Morning Jo Kong, (there it goes again, bloody Jo Kong coming in uninvited!). The 2011 ex that was looking at for £8000 then £7500  sold for ask price and not been advertised more than 3 days.
When I searched for jazzes within 20 miles, 32 came up, only 5 automatics. Quite a few of 2010/pre 2010 even going back to 2006 advertised, manual and auto but still wanting £2-3500+ . Even the car pitch opposite us recently had Peugeot 308 bog standard basic auto for no longer than 5 days, priced at £3995,& that has gone!
Taking all into a/c for car that on table at mo, bearing in mind current car has cost us £1500 for 7 yrs trouble free motoring, no reason why test drive and further looking over should throw up any problems, but main reason that my left leg not cope with manual for much longer, have got best deal, for car spec that am happy with. 
Let you know how it goes. Cheers, all.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: UKjim on January 26, 2023, 09:53:05 AM
5k + your si… and as said above, 1 key , no history… or a parcel shelf. Probably give that a swerve personally.
Must admit I agree, I wouldn't be tempted but if the OP is happy that's all that matters.


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Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 26, 2023, 10:17:22 AM
Morning Jim, This is what it's all about but with added input, advice and yes, opinions.
OK no rear shelf or history. But 1 owner from new, passed all mots with couple advisories. Avge 6k miles per yr and no reason to think why car not serviced each yr, which is reason for mechanic checking over. And if dealer willing to bring car to our local garage has to give some confidence.
If not for fact that cat n being involved low speed prang  (have seen pics of damage to front bumper/slight dent to rear) no doubt all missing info would increase price to extortionate out if bracket! Any way, see how this afternoon goes. Many thanks 
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 26, 2023, 10:19:04 AM
Jocks, did you buy above 09 Fabia for yourself?
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: olduser1 on January 26, 2023, 12:20:42 PM
You need to see the actual hpi or Experian report, then ask a honda delear to check service record. If you rate the condition & it drives right then hand over your hard earned £. I would avoid any insurance jobs. Each to their own.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Jocko on January 26, 2023, 12:25:25 PM
Jocks, did you buy above 09 Fabia for yourself?
I did.

(https://i.imgur.com/voAinhT.jpg)

Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: madasafish on January 26, 2023, 02:00:25 PM
I have bought lots of cars w/o service histories.
But I do lots of research on weak spots so know what I am looking for.

If the MOT history is OK with few advisories, that is a   good sign of regular maintenance..
Repeated advisories on rust/tyres/oil leaks  shout penny pinching, and a don't give a #### attitude. I run away.

Unreliable cars should only ever be bought with warranty and FSH. Eg Fords, VW, Vauxhall, BMW, Mercedes, Nissan,all French, All US. Carp cars - eg Jeeps - should be avoided at all costs..
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Jocko on January 26, 2023, 03:20:40 PM
My Fabia has had 2 MOT failures in its life. One in 2016, Nearside Rear Stop lamp not working.
One in 2019, Offside Rear Stop lamp(s) not working. Must be a design fault.  ;D
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 26, 2023, 04:48:29 PM
Hi Peeps, and those since last post. Well, had rather nice test drive for an hour, inc motorway and roads with speed bumps. No rattles or any unexpected noises from anywhere.
Auto engine totally spot on. Paddles rather easy to use & gave 'gear' no in display. Cruise also for few miles inc uphill and no speed loss.
Double checked few other bits confirming averythjng in good working order, inc vsa, headlight level setting, rear magic seats. Spare tyre, screw, tools, jack. No damp spots etc. So, just see if prof inspection reveals owt, if not, definite purchase.
Although only hour drive, relief on my my left leg was massive. No stiff knee, or hip, able to sit higher position than currently able for past 2 yrs at least, due to clutch. Driving auto much more enjoyable.
Full checks made already, total car check (premium/gold Report gave everything about car) even gave link to auction sale, & inc pics of damage which looks like caused by low speed impact. Report very detailed.
Will honda be able to obtain service history, even if done at independent garage? But eitherway, car actually little better than expected from driving seat and all round.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Brakballe on January 26, 2023, 05:49:17 PM
My Fabia has had 2 MOT failures in its life. One in 2016, Nearside Rear Stop lamp not working.
One in 2019, Offside Rear Stop lamp(s) not working. Must be a design fault.  ;D

Built in expiration issues...  ;D

Anyway, common rule about pairs: If one blows, do both because prolly is the other one already lined  up for... expiration. This goes especially for head lights..
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: UKjim on January 26, 2023, 05:59:37 PM
Hi Peeps, and those since last post. Well, had rather nice test drive for an hour, inc motorway and roads with speed bumps. No rattles or any unexpected noises from anywhere.
Auto engine totally spot on. Paddles rather easy to use & gave 'gear' no in display. Cruise also for few miles inc uphill and no speed loss.
Double checked few other bits confirming averythjng in good working order, inc vsa, headlight level setting, rear magic seats. Spare tyre, screw, tools, jack. No damp spots etc. So, just see if prof inspection reveals owt, if not, definite purchase.
Although only hour drive, relief on my my left leg was massive. No stiff knee, or hip, able to sit higher position than currently able for past 2 yrs at least, due to clutch. Driving auto much more enjoyable.
Full checks made already, total car check (premium/gold Report gave everything about car) even gave link to auction sale, & inc pics of damage which looks like caused by low speed impact. Report very detailed.
Will honda be able to obtain service history, even if done at independent garage? But eitherway, car actually little better than expected from driving seat and all round.

Appears you have carried out due diligence, I hope everything is OK at the inspection and you enjoy your new car.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Jocko on January 26, 2023, 07:11:51 PM
It sounds like a nice car. I hope the professional inspection goes well and you get it. Here's wishing you all the best.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: GBH on January 26, 2023, 08:01:51 PM

Will honda be able to obtain service history, even if done at independent garage?
 

Doubt if Honda will be able to obtain any information on any work done outside the Honda "system".

When I bought a (one owner from new) BMW Mini from my employer I had to go to the BMW garages that actually carried the services for them to stamp the book. They could see on their system where and what work had been carried out but were not allowed to stamp / sign for any work they had not done, even though the other garage was just a different branch of the same business.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 27, 2023, 11:52:37 AM
Many thanks again for all replies. Done as much pre preparation, due diligence and inspects as possible to date. Even going as far as enhancing pics of tyres to check make and years of production before initial viewing! Bridgestone 2018s . Tread still very good in person. Only other bits were obviously stone chips to bonnet and scratches expected with 9-10 yr old car.
Cheers, Jocko. So do we!
And as fir previous service history, thought might be reality and only able to give if done at 1 of their dealers.
Got weekend to clear as much as able out of current car, without jumping gun but no reason why my mechanics inspection should throw anything up.
Also sort insurance changeover, breakdown cover changeover,  and tax and parking permit! Cheers again all.
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: shufty on January 27, 2023, 12:10:30 PM
...Sounds like you've done a lot more prep/work than I would've!  :o
Hope it all works out  :)
Title: Re: Have found and reserved 2013 ES plus cvt auto 7 gear!
Post by: Spencer69 on January 27, 2023, 01:07:55 PM
 ;D Only cos it cat n...and that went as far as could with couple others but were in £8k for 2010/11 jazz!