too much road noise

[smilertoo]

Hi,
I'm happy enough with my 2004 jazz but it makes a terrible racket when on the motorway, it's not the car but roadnoise. Does the 2nd gen filter it out any better? (i'm using quality cross climate+ tyres so theyre not the issue).

[sparky Paul]

I thought the Jazz was fairly quiet for a small car.

What sort of a noise is it? Does it sound like tyre noise?

[smilertoo]

Its like driving with the windows slightly open, even when theyre not. It just seems to be noise and vibration coming through from the road surface at speed.

[Jocko]

On the motorway road noise is the loudest thing you hear in my Jazz.

[smilertoo]

I was wondering if Honda did something about it on the 2009+ jazz?

[culzean]

Hi,
I'm happy enough with my 2004 jazz but it makes a terrible racket when on the motorway, it's not the car but roadnoise. Does the 2nd gen filter it out any better? (i'm using quality cross climate+ tyres so theyre not the issue).

The only thing touching the road is the tyres, there is a massive difference in road noise between different tyres. Combination of tyres and road surface, on some surfaces even otherwise quiet tyres can make a tidy racket..

[sparky Paul]

The later car is a more modern design, so you would think that things would have moved on a bit. That said, I still don't consider our Jazz a noisy car. Even at 70-75mph, I certainly wouldn't call it a 'terrible racket'.

I notice you have Michelin CrossClimate tyres on, which will not help. Directional tyres are quite a lot noisier than symmetrical or asymmetric tyres, especially as they wear down.

[smilertoo]

Has anyone here tried replacing their jazz carpet? If i did that i could put sound deadening rubber under it and in door panels. Cheaper than upgrading to newer car just to reduce noise.

[sparky Paul]

Why not try a non-directional tyre when the time comes?

The noise is the reason I avoid directional tyres. In fact, the last ones I had on the rear of our other car drove me mad, so I took them off before they were worn out. At one point, I had convinced myself that the rear wheel bearings were the source, but swapping the front wheels with the back ones moved the noise to the front axle. A pair of new (asymmetrical) tyres solved the problem.

[culzean]

My Nokian WR-D3 winters are quieter than some summer tyres I have had. I have Avon summers on Civic and Jazz and they are quiet and grippy only time will tell how they wear but I will measure tread depth when I take them off to put Nokians on at end of October.

[smilertoo]

Only got them this march, shouldn't need changed for a few years. Car had four random nearly worn out tyres on it when i got it.

[sparky Paul]

Car had four random nearly worn out tyres on it when i got it.

...but were they quieter? 

As I say, I avoid anything directional now. Don't get me wrong, some are okay, but some are horribly noisy. I think the CrossClimate tyres are known for being quite a noisy tyre.

It could be something else, you might have a wheel bearing on it's way, or a bush gone. It doesn't take much to transmit noise through to the shell. It's just that our Jazz has never struck me as a noisy car.

[Jocko]

As I said earlier, in my Jazz road noise is the biggest sound on the motorway, but it is no way what I would call noisy. Car is really pretty quiet. CrossClimate tyres tyres are, at 68db, one of the quieter tyres out there. My new Yokohama tyre is 68db and I chose it because of the low noise.

[culzean]

Jazz never struck me as a noisy car, I have had tyres in the past on newish cars ( OE fitted tyres ) that have been very noisy and as soon as they wore out I replaced them with quieter ones and difference was huge - why do car makers fit noisy tyres as OE ? Many of the complaints from reviewers are about road noise and for people reading reviews it can be the difference between buying a car or not.   It is only on some particularly rough road surfaces that road noise is intrusive,  on majority of roads hardly notice it.

[Rory]

Hi,
I'm happy enough with my 2004 jazz but it makes a terrible racket when on the motorway, it's not the car but roadnoise. Does the 2nd gen filter it out any better? (i'm using quality cross climate+ tyres so theyre not the issue).

The very early Jazz's did have some suspension mounts changed but I think that was to do with harshness rather than noise.    We had a 53 reg and were assured it had the new mounts so your 2004 should have them.

I put Cross-Climate tyres on daughters Golf and thought they were quiet.

There's a website where someone went a bit bonkers soundproofing a Jazz - http://www.hondafitjazz.com/dead2.html

I'd say our mk2's are much quieter and altogether more comfortable.  I had a basic mk3 the other day as a courtesy car and that was noisy, and very cheap feeing.