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Hicardo

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First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« on: July 03, 2026, 10:38:41 PM »
Only 6000 on clock at Service 1.  Cost zero to me due to 5-plan.  Took dealer 2 hours inc wash and vac.  Handed back looking like new, and nothing bad to report.  Everything rated green, not even an amber.   Impressive.  Engine has started to loosen up a bit now, overall ave mpg is 62 over the first 6000.  Very happy.  No service book, electronic only records, which im not really a fan of.  Much rather have a stamped service book, but that's regrettably the way of things now.  Briliant car -  pretty much does everything asked of it very well. Whilst not a sports car,  it's deceptively fast if required too!   :)

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2026, 11:44:29 AM »
Easy to service Jazz.  More of a visual inspection and basic service such as oil and all filters etc.
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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2026, 01:31:53 PM »
My 72 plate is due it's 4th (of the 5 year plan) service in August, and by that time it will be around the 43k miles point.
As yours, the last 3 services have given good feedback regarding the health of the car.
Hopefully service 4 will follow the trend.

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2026, 04:43:53 PM »
I'm on a 72 plate but only 16k, all service great and MOT passed no problems.

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2026, 05:54:07 PM »
Personally I'm expecting a very long life for these Jazz e:HEV vehicles. Better than previous generations (which was excellent). Because now the transmission seems very sturdy and the engine mainly working at optimal rpm for power generation.

Unless you purely use it on the highway at 110-140km/h, still going to be fine because it seems like a good Honda engine. But here the engine would get a lot more punishment.

The only thing I'm not sure how long will last is the high voltage battery life.

Anybody knows if somebody had to adjust the valves yet and at which mileage?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2026, 06:56:57 PM by sebastiand »

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2026, 07:30:26 AM »
Personally I'm expecting a very long life for these Jazz e:HEV vehicles. Better than previous generations (which was excellent). Because now the transmission seems very sturdy and the engine mainly working at optimal rpm for power generation.

Unless you purely use it on the highway at 110-140km/h, still going to be fine because it seems like a good Honda engine. But here the engine would get a lot more punishment.

The only thing I'm not sure how long will last is the high voltage battery life.

Anybody knows if somebody had to adjust the valves yet and at which mileage?

To my way of thinking, even if you do highway/motorway driving the engine is still not going to taxed or punished as much as a conventional ICE engine. The constant switch between electric/hybrid/petrol means the engine is very rarely under full load. I reason that my 40k+ mileage has only stressed the engine to an equivalent ICE mileage car of say of 25k miles. 
The electric battery is guaranteed for 8 years... and I assume by that time battery technology will have improved and become such that you will just replace the old with a new one.
Does the engine require valve adjustment, is it the same set up as previous generations or again like my previous point about a less stressed engine and valve wear is negligible compared to pure ICE motors. The only things I will be asking at my 4th service is when my brake simulator will be replaced and when does the cam belt need changing?

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2026, 08:26:14 AM »
... The only things I will be asking at my 4th service is when my brake simulator will be replaced and when does the cam belt need changing?
afaik the Jazz's engine has a cam chain and the maintenance schedule doesn't even list it as a check point.

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2026, 01:18:40 PM »
Just looked in the manual, and valve clearances are checked at 75k.

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2026, 10:08:35 AM »
Just looked in the manual, and valve clearances are checked at 75k.
Yes. 75k miles / 120k KM.

But this is just an inspection. I understand if they sound "good", then you can wait for another 120k KM.

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2026, 06:27:45 PM »
Just looked in the manual, and valve clearances are checked at 75k.
I'm sorry - valve clearance has absolutely nothing to do with the cam chain (or belt)!

Whereas engine valve timing is everything about the cam chain (or belt) and for that, I was unable to spot a maintenance point in the manual / service plan.

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2026, 07:02:05 AM »
having a new car (the Jazz Crossstar 2026) the first service is a year later. Is it however common practice to do an oil change after the first 3000km?  My dealer mentioned I could do that. Did anyone do this? I now have about 2000km if I remember correctly (since March 25-th)

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2026, 07:29:38 AM »
No, I don’t think it is normal to do an early oil change. The concept of “running in” a new engine is not necessary in these days of precision engineering.

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2026, 07:41:15 AM »
That's what I read

Old engineering used to allow metal filings to be created and dumped into the sump so the oil needed changing with filings mixed in

Hence why engine revs used to be limited

These days they know how much the diamond cutters reduce by with each cut component and can adjust accordingly so every piston bore, crankshaft, etc is exactly the same measurement and creates no wear
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2026, 09:31:24 AM »
I plan to replace  my cars before they reach mega miles . So dont worry myself about  valve clearances , or indeed replacing an aging HV battery. 

But those who will be running very high mileage, or eventually elderly , mk4's  can take some comfort from modern high precision engineering standards. and quality materials.

IMO opinion older cars needed valve clearances checked and adjusted  relatively frequently  due to inferior quality metals being 'hammered' flat   or valve seats being eroded etc. Much less of a problem these days, especially with Hondas engineering quality.Also bear in mind  that not only does the hybrids ICE typically run at a constant and relatively  unstressed speed ,its not even running at all for a proportion of the cars total miles/kilometers.   ;D

I accept that eventually the need to replace a very expensive HV battery might be the tipping point that makes an old  mk4 beyond economic repair and destined for the scrap yard.   But even conventional cars the  vast majority end up being scrapped because they need major mechanical repairs, rust  or simply use too much fuel and relatively unsafe by modern standards.  A sad end for what the owner regards as a 'perfectly good' car. But when did you last see a Cortina being driven? 

New replacement EV and hybrid HV batteries are outrageously expensive at present,  partly because you are  largely  dependent on OE  equipment and main dealer prices. But  I think there are already a few independent specialists able to renovate and rejuvenate EV batteries, and even rebuild them, replacing individual cells  ,perhaps with more advanced improved versions. These specialist  may increase in number the future if the demand is there from  owners of older EV's and hybrids.
And those cars scrapped because even a renovated battery is not economically viable will add to the pool of other used spare parts available.
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Re: First Service on our 2025 Crosstar
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2026, 04:36:05 PM »
Just looked in the manual, and valve clearances are checked at 75k.
I'm sorry - valve clearance has absolutely nothing to do with the cam chain (or belt)!

Whereas engine valve timing is everything about the cam chain (or belt) and for that, I was unable to spot a maintenance point in the manual / service plan.

Who said it was?

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