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Title: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint (usually affects Ice Blue Metallic)
Post by: guest119 on July 13, 2007, 12:33:12 PM
Hi there,

My first post, so go easy!

My father in law recently purchased a jazz and the wing mirror paint around the pillar/mounts has peeled/flaked away. Is this a trait of the Jazz?

Anyway, probably best to remove the mirrors and respray off the car. Is this easy? Just remove the door cards and there’s a bolt inside the door?

Anybody done guides (with pictures) showing how to do this ?

Thanks for your help!

Charlie Smiley
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: honda jazz sport on July 21, 2007, 07:02:02 PM
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Hi there,

My first post, so go easy!

My father in law recently purchased a jazz and the wing mirror paint around the pillar/mounts has peeled/flaked away. Is this a trait of the Jazz?

Not as far as I know….how old is it?

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Anyway, probably best to remove the mirrors and respray off the car. Is this easy? Just remove the door cards and there’s a bolt inside the door?

Sounds about right I think.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: Goffs Oak on July 31, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
Sounds like the paint has not been applied correctly to the mirror, could even be down to poor accident repair. Painting plastic is not easy in the bodyshop and takes some skill. If the mirror has been damaged it may have been resprayed on the cheap instead of replacing the mirror. You need to prepare the surface carefully or else the paint won’t adhere to the plastic surface and will flake away.

Years ago when I was a service manager at a Nissan dealer, we had a few complaints of the paint on the 200SX’s side skirts flaking away. Turns out the customer had caught the skirt on high kerbs, thanks to the lowered suspension, and had the repair done cheaply. Shocked

Anyway, if I remember correctly, you remove the interior door panels and you find the bolt attaching the door mirror to the car. Can’t be too sure, it’s been a good three years since we had a Jazz in the shop for repair but I can’t see any other way of getting at the mirror.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest302 on July 31, 2007, 10:22:11 PM
Hi, we saw quite a few jazzes before buying a 2002 se. we saw one 2002 that was flaking.
It could be so difficult that Honda had trouble.
Can’t see why a decent spayer couldn’t deal with it though. good luck!! mintgreen
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest396 on September 13, 2007, 11:32:32 AM
yep
Have the same, paint missing on both wing mirror arms, not little chips either. Its pretty much 70% peeled away.
Looks pretty shoddy with white plastic showing through.
Min is a light blue metallic finish.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest914 on June 01, 2009, 11:09:45 PM
Does anyone have a problem with paint peeling from the wing mirror support posts? I have owned my Jazz from new but recently noticed large areas of paint peeling off the posts. Honda UK suggest it is caused by stone chips but I find this hard to accept because the paint is peeling rather than chipping and it is happening on both sides in areas which are not vulnerable to flying stones. I think it's a manufacturing fault as the paint doesn't seem to have adhered to the plastic underneath. Very disappointed with Honda's lack of help.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: JazzyB on June 02, 2009, 08:02:29 AM
Go back to the dealer and push them into doing something about it
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest911 on June 02, 2009, 09:43:57 AM
Hi RLM,

I had exactly the same problem with my 2003 Ice blue 1.4 SE sport.  It was five years old before it started so I never contacted Honda or the dealer but I agree with you - it was definitely a factory fault.  It was certailnly not stone chipping - the paint could be scraped off with a finger nail.  And just in case they mantion it, I don't use a pressure washer.  I had never seen or heard of a jazz with the same problem so I was interested to read your post.  It's not ice blue is it?
I went to the local motor factors and got an aerosol can made up of the colour.  I removed the mirror supports, stripped all the paint with paint stripper and resprayed them with plastic primer, colour and clear lacquer.  Let me know if you would like instructions.  The door trim needs to come off to remove the mirrors.

Hope this helps,

Mozart.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest914 on June 14, 2009, 09:31:05 PM
Thanks for the replies. I have contacted the dealer and Honda UK, they offered new wing mirrors at a reduced price - £100 plus another £60 to have them fitted. I am still thinking about this but am very reluctant as I don't think its my fault. I don't see the point in replacing the whole part when only the paint is faulty. Honda maintain it's stone chips but a local paint shop agree that it's a problem with the car.
My car is a 2003 SE in ice blue bought in Suffolk in May, was yours around the same time/place? The damage is on both posts but I would not be confident in trying to repair it myself.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest911 on June 16, 2009, 09:52:47 PM
Hi RLM,

Yep, 2003 SE in ice blue bought May 2003 in Hamilton near Glasgow.  Chassis number ends: 03S203133.  No way is it stone chips.  I don't think there is any paintwork warranty other than corrosion so maybe after six years it's not a bad offer.  What should the mirrors cost?  The whole of the new mirrors will presumably need to be  painted ice blue and I have to wonder what kind of paint job you might get.  What about the black unpainted ones from the "S" model?

Regards,

Mozart.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2129 on May 23, 2011, 08:07:08 PM
Hi everyone.

I have a 2002 Ice Blue Jazz, and it too peels off easily on the mirror posts.


I've bought it 2nd hand at a used-car dealer in 2007, and having seen the flaking posts, demanded them to be painted before delivery, which was done to an (apparent) high-standard.
The finish was good, smooth, and absolutely color-matched to the rest of the paint.


However, after some two years the flaking and peeling appeared again, and now there is a whole lot of white plastic showing...  :'(



Funny to see that this only happens in Ice Blue cars... something to do with the paint?



Mozart - care to do a tutorial on how to paint it, DIY style?
How is it holding up?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: Jo on May 28, 2011, 10:38:24 AM
I've got a '53 reg Jazz in Ice Blue, a lot of paint peeling off both mirror posts, they look really bad with the white plastic underneath showing through.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2230 on July 10, 2011, 12:19:40 AM
This is obviously a common problem since I also have peeling paint on my wing mirror for my blue 54 reg jazz
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: 79stef on July 11, 2011, 08:29:32 PM
As above, 2002 Ice Blue Jazz, flakey paint on mirror pillar
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest1440 on July 14, 2011, 10:35:45 PM
Mine too. '03 Ice blue . Is it only with this  particular colour?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest1868 on July 15, 2011, 06:51:33 PM
Once you've got the door panel off there will be a plastic film to pull back. You will also have to disconnect the wiring plug and the cable may be clipped to the bodywork
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There are three nuts on the end of the pins holding the wing mirror on. Be prepared to drop some of the nuts in the bottom of the door. A magnet on the end of a long flexible rod will come in handy. If you can't borrow one they're not too expensive to buy. Halfords sell them for one.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2744 on September 05, 2011, 08:05:40 PM
Hi - I have a 2004 Jazz Ice Blue and since about a year now have had paint bubbling and peeling off both wing mirrors.... I have been stalking other ice blue Jazzes of the same year (!! lol) and it seems to be a general problem. I haven't seen the same problem on other colours, yet.

I absolutely definitely KNOW it is not a stone chip problem (paint coming off BACK of wing wirror holder) and the bubbling underneath the paint prior to peeling off is a sure clue it is a manufacture prob, originating from either the paint or the base. I've had this confirmed by a bodywork specialist who quoted me +/- 250 GBP to get it properly redone !!
I don't think I (or any of you) I should have to pay for this and think Honda should pay for, or atleast accept responsibility and show commercial willing. So far I haven't had any luck.

I'm thinking if there are more of you out there with the same prob we could start up some sort of a petition and get Honda to listen.....  so anyone out there?   ;D
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2748 on September 07, 2011, 07:21:00 PM
I have a 2003 Jazz with the same issue!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2750 on September 08, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
And another one...
Also 2003 1.4 SE, ice blue. Owned from new. Bought in Bristol. Started peeling at around 5 years.
Local Honda shop didn't want to know.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2744 on September 08, 2011, 09:32:48 PM
OK thanks !! Good to know (well, sorry, not for you) but I shall extend my stalking to 2003 models too !!!
Have you been to a garage re this prob? Or spoken to Honda?  Is yours Ice Blue too?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2744 on September 08, 2011, 09:45:19 PM
I have right hand drive Ice Blue 2004, with wingmirror paint peeling too.
Started when Jazz was +/- 5 yrs old....

Am going to write to big boss at Honda (either UK or France), there is OBVIOUSLY a common production fault.
Will keep y'all informed...
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2744 on September 08, 2011, 09:46:34 PM
Ditto
I have right hand drive Ice Blue 2004, with wingmirror paint peeling too.
Started when Jazz was +/- 5 yrs old....

Am going to write to big boss at Honda (either UK or France), there is OBVIOUSLY a common production fault which they need to recognise.
If they don't then maybe Watchodg will....?

Will keep y'all informed... wish me luck !!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest3504 on October 31, 2012, 11:09:00 AM
I have a 2004 Honda Jazz bought as new. The paint around the arms of the right wing mirror suddenly started to bubble and flake and now I just have a horrible 'white' plastic arm. The passenger side arm is also bubbling but not yet flaking. I went to the dealership yesterday and they quoted me £80 +VAT for a WHOLE DAY's work and NO replacement vehicle. I came home and saw your forum so immediately got on the phone to Honda. They were very coy about the problem and asked me if I was complaining or enquiring..I decided to 'complain' and feel (as many of you do on the forum) that Honda should pay for the respray. I wanted a guarantee from them that IF I paid for the paintwork, would it happen again? They have referred my case to Customer Relations Dept. Watch this space!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest806 on November 01, 2012, 11:53:37 AM
Good luck
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2898 on November 18, 2012, 12:44:13 AM
Hope you get a result.. my wifes 02 jazz has the same problem.. i painted it in with touch up about 2yrs back....

Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest3503 on November 19, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
Also got the same problem with my 04 ice blue. Surely it can't just be that colour!
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2940 on December 24, 2012, 12:57:17 PM
I have a 2003 1.4 SE Jazz and mine has been peeling for a while now. My mechanic said about 4 years ago to let it all come off before he would repsray it. I have been looking in supermarket car parks and almost every blue jazz from 2002-2004 has the same problem. I have started to note reg numbers. Can anyone start a Facebook page, there may be many, many blue Jazz's out there and yes it was a fault of that model so not fair we should have to pay for it!
 >:(
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: bill888 on December 24, 2012, 06:11:37 PM
fwiw, I don't think the issue is just confined to blue cars.  Someone I know has a metallic green 2002 with the same problem.

TBH, it's unlikely Honda will want to do anything about it for any cars more than 6 years old.  Also the issue is not safety related.



Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest3735 on December 26, 2012, 07:59:42 AM
mine is going on the drivers side.... 54 plate sirius blue.... will probably blow it in when i find someone selling small spray cans. halfords does milano red, but not sirius blue. haven't enquired about getting it done professionally but can't be that big a job, can it?
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: chrisc on December 26, 2012, 08:44:06 AM
The fellow who attends to our shop's cars and lorries bodywork says the key, if you like, to spraying plastic parts like wing-mirrors and bumpers is the correct preparation and correct undercoat.  He does not spray a colour coat on first, but a PVC etching primer after of course thoroughly sanding and cleaning the area.  He also said that the colour code for all modern cars can be obtained quite easily and apart from red, which fades after a few years, from commercial automotive paint suppliers who will supply from 1 litre of the correct tint and shade from stock. They all have computers which will sort out the colour in a few seconds.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint
Post by: guest2662 on December 26, 2012, 08:56:09 AM
its done well if its lasted 12 yrs without a repaint, or touch up. ::)
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint (usually affects Ice Blue Metallic)
Post by: SuperCNJ on January 06, 2014, 10:41:38 AM
Just for the record, our Sirius Blue has this problem too. We noticed it when we bought the car but put it down to wear and tear as they are electric folding. Seems that this is quite a common problem, did anyone managed to get anywhere with Honda on this?

Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint (usually affects Ice Blue Metallic)
Post by: monkeydave on January 06, 2014, 05:00:05 PM
i got Deep Sapphire Blue Pearl and it makes me glad i got a 1.2 with non painted mirrors and handles reading all the problems on here

i do think the perl paint is very soft compared to my civics metalic paint
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint (usually affects Ice Blue Metallic)
Post by: Charlie20032021 on September 16, 2021, 11:06:34 AM
Just adding my 2cents - mine too is peeling and it’s an Ice Blue.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint (usually affects Ice Blue Metallic)
Post by: cristispot on August 11, 2022, 11:42:32 AM
Same here, Ice Blue, both mirrors peeling.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint (usually affects Ice Blue Metallic)
Post by: Danoh on May 15, 2023, 11:29:33 AM
Yup! Ice Blue Metallic, Jazz SE, 53 reg, bought new Dec 2003.
Still running well, returning 40+ mpg!
Slowly replacing parts due to age more than wear at 87,000 miles.
Title: Re: Honda Jazz - Missing wing mirror paint (usually affects Ice Blue Metallic)
Post by: Danoh on May 15, 2023, 11:31:36 AM
Any recommendations for a reasonably priced resprayer in or close to London?