All Season Tyres

[JazzyJ]

As my factory fitted tyres on my 2017 Mk3 are nearing retirement I've been considering going down the route of an All Season variant. Any experiences/suggestions? Cheers!

[ColinS]

As my factory fitted tyres on my 2017 Mk3 are nearing retirement I've been considering going down the route of an All Season variant. Any experiences/suggestions? Cheers!

Loads of threads on this:
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=8600.msg57801#msg57801
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=11249.msg72881#msg72881
And others

[madasafish]

I fitted Michelin Cross Climate to my Mark 2 in March 2018. SO far they have been excellent - 10k miles, started at 8mm tread , now 6 to 7mm,so should do 40k mile s+. Quiet ,lot of grip, great in mud,, Not had any snow in any quantity so see . 0.5mpg penalty I estimate vs Michelin Energy Savers..

[123Drive!]

Currently using Maxis AP2, excellent value and warranty on my MK2. Also used Nexen N'Priz, not replaced by N'Blue 4S. Again good value. Have used Michelin Cross Climate on my Ibiza but didn't perform well in icy uphill road.

[AlanTR]

I fitted Goodyear All Seasons on our Mk3 Jazz - now waiting for the snow and ice to see how they go! Meanwhile all is good. You may notice that all-seasons and winter tyres produce a barely perceptible low level "humming" noise which is noticeable at low speeds <30 mph. My wife hasn't noticed this - so I haven't mentioned it!

On a previous car (Hyundai IX20 CRDi) I used to fit a set of winter tyres (Goodyear) from Nov to March. I had plenty of experience in snow and ice with very good results.

There's plenty on YouTube to convince you that winter/all-season tyres perform well. Especially one video which shows that, in snow/ice, a front wheel drive car on winter tyres massively outperforms a 4WD car on "summer" tyres. Maybe not a big surprise, but the difference is significant.

One thing to consider: all-season and winter tyre braking performance on dry roads is not as good as summer tyres.

[culzean]

I actually found that Nokian WR-D3 full winter tyres we have had on steel wheels for years were quieter than some summer tyres we have had,  and a better ride as well...

[AlanTR]

The noise I referred to is only audible at low speed. I also have a Hyundai I10 Mk2 with Michelin Cross Climate tyres and get the same low speed noise on dry roads. At speeds over 30 mph, both the Michelin and Goodyear all-weather tyres are as quiet as any summer tyre that I've had in the past. Previously had summer Continentals on both cars and the wear rate was quite high with reasonably careful driving.

Now that I've got all-weather tyres on both cars we'll probably have mild winters for years to come!

[culzean]

The noise I referred to is only audible at low speed. I also have a Hyundai I10 Mk2 with Michelin Cross Climate tyres and get the same low speed noise on dry roads. At speeds over 30 mph, both the Michelin and Goodyear all-weather tyres are as quiet as any summer tyre that I've had in the past. Previously had summer Continentals on both cars and the wear rate was quite high with reasonably careful driving.

Now that I've got all-weather tyres on both cars we'll probably have mild winters for years to come!

If you compare the Nokian WR-D3 tread pattern with the Michelin cross climate the difference in noise becomes apparent,  the Nokian has a much more 'arrowhead' shaped self-cleaning tread than the Michelin which means no well defined bars across the tread - the Nokian tread hits the road progressively without any defined edges hitting the road at 90 degrees to direction of travel ( which is where the humming comes from ).

[richardfrost]

Inch and a half of snow this morning.  No ice to speak of. My Toyota on Nokian All Season tyres was very surefooted. I let the hybrid auto do the work and drove slowly but no slippage even on the steep and twisty parts. Impressed. First time on this combination.

Jazz is still on cheap runabout tyres my son's girlfriend put on it. Will see how she gets on today on those, although her journey to work is not as dramatic as mine.

[olduser1]

Its the other drivers that are the hazard these days, never driven on ice , snow , heavy rain etc etc

[madasafish]

Its the other drivers that are the hazard these days, never driven on ice , snow , heavy rain etc etc

I would qualify that: it's the 4x4 drivers on summer tyres who have never driven on snow but think that a 4x4 confers miraculous grip on snow..  (or a 4x4 flots in floods).. that are a menace..

Almost all 4x4s come from the factory with summer tyres.

[JazzMusic]

The noise I referred to is only audible at low speed. I also have a Hyundai I10 Mk2 with Michelin Cross Climate tyres and get the same low speed noise on dry roads. At speeds over 30 mph, both the Michelin and Goodyear all-weather tyres are as quiet as any summer tyre that I've had in the past. Previously had summer Continentals on both cars and the wear rate was quite high with reasonably careful driving.

We also have Goodyear 4seasons on our Insight and the humming below 40mph is quite noticable but not really disturbing. Above 40 mph the humming goes away, not sure if it's louder than summer tires. With old winter tires the humming used to get louder the faster you drove.
After 10k miles they still show plenty of thread (7+8mm). The rubber shows some hairline cracks after 1.5 seasons, not a good indicator. I was hoping for the Michelins Cross Climate to be quieter.

[culzean]

Its the other drivers that are the hazard these days, never driven on ice , snow , heavy rain etc etc

I would qualify that: it's the 4x4 drivers on summer tyres who have never driven on snow but think that a 4x4 confers miraculous grip on snow..  (or a 4x4 flots in floods).. that are a menace..

Almost all 4x4s come from the factory with summer tyres.

+1

Its a laugh to watch smug 4x4 drivers when reality hits home and they sit there with the wheels spinning as a Jazz breezes past ( they don't know it has winter tyres fitted ),  and the extra weight of a 4x4 works against them when trying to brake on ice and snow.

[eagle123]

I got continental all seasons tyres but on my civic plenty of grip quiet and better on dry and wet grip compared to the goodyear all season gen 2 i had previously.
Havent tested the continentals on snow yet, but am confident i be fine

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