Mk2 or Mk3??

[Ozzie]

Hiya,

This is aimed towards the Jazz owners of the current 2015+ models:

"If you were still able to buy a new version of the MkII Jazz would you have chosen the MkII or the MkIII?"

Thanks

Oz 

[Downsizer]

Mk III without a doubt, for the improved ride, certainly compared with my 2008 MK II.

[trebor1652]

Went from the mk1 to the mk3.
Look at a mk2 but decided to wait for the mk3, glad I did. :-)

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[jazzeck]

How does the mk3 drive? Six gear version especially?

[Sidot]

Miss my Mk2 very much.
Clean lines nice dash board and spacious interior BUT the Mk3 with all its safety features and infotainment screen with messages telling me that various things don't work represents PROGRESS. .....
We have to evolve.

[Ozzie]

I am not sure that change for changes sake is beneficial. I took a test drive in the Mk3 and although it drives well, I wasn't a great fan of the gadgets, bearing in mind that I want a tuition car, and learners and gadgets isn't always good, sometimes learners need to think and take responsibility and not rely on the car to take care of it.

Things like auto-wipers, auto lights, parking sensors, lane departure warnings, sign detectors, may be progress but I want my pupils to think, if they later buy a car that can do it all thats fine, but not to rely on the car to get their licence and not be able to think for themselves once they have passed, and drive a car that doesn't do it either.

[John Ratsey]

@Ozzie: I agree with what you say regarding a tuition car but shouldn't you therefore have a manual gearbox?

So maybe a later Mk 2 would be better for your needs.

[guest5505]

Is there anyone who prefers their mk1, over mk 2 or 3?

[trebor1652]

Loved my mk1, but it was 10 years old, only 48,500 miles and passed its mot with no advisories, but we can't stay in the past, so a mk3 EX now lives in my garage. :-)

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[Paulwhitt20]

My wife prefers her MK 1 to the MK 3 Ex Navi. The ride is better but the gadgets make it feel to complicated. Especially when they don't work as you would expect.

Re the six speed gearbox. Gear change is a bit clunky but in normal driving 1 to 4 is OK round town. 5th for 50 to 60 on A roads. 6th for 70 on the motorway but don't expect to overtake a lorry or go uphill in sixth you will need to change down a gear or two. Ignore the indicator telling you when to change up.

[csp]

It took me some time to get used to the Mk3 there are some compromises but overall I am pleased with the change from a Mk2. The CVT took some time to get the hang of and I am sure improved after a few miles, the CVT is very smooth.

The Mk3 intelligent speed limiter is impressive and the trip computer more comprehensive. The ride and road holding of the Mk3 seems better. The Mk3 auto lights can be annoying although the main beam assist seems quite good and the auto wipers are good.

It is quite annoying that the Mk3 Auto start stop on the CVT version restarts the engine as soon the break pedal is released even if Neutral is selected and the hand brake has been applied for longer stops.

The MK2 seemed to have more storage space, the door pockets and glove box were bigger and there was more leg room in the front seats.

The S version of the Mk3 has less gagets than the SE or EX so may be better for learners.

[fut1a]

MK3 without a doubt. The Mk2 is a very good car but the game has moved on so much with the MK3.

When the wife picked hers up and we pulled in the drive and compared it to the MK2 it was like night and day. We still thought the MK2 looked nice, but when it was next to the MK3 it just looked so old.

[Ozzie]

@Ozzie: I agree with what you say regarding a tuition car but shouldn't you therefore have a manual gearbox?

So maybe a later Mk 2 would be better for your needs.

Not everyone is suited to driving manual, and offering automatic tuition helps those that are possibly less fortunate, those who are possibly disabled, have learning issues, or basically can't be bothered with gears. We have manual cars too, as well as automatics, but most driving schools are one man, one car operations, those cars are mainly manual. I noticed a niche in the market and we have it sussed, 14 cars, 6 automatics, 8 manual.

[guest1372]

Mk 3 for resale value in 5 years time.

Is there anyone who prefers their mk1, over mk 2 or 3?

Kept the Mk 1 because my needs haven't changed in the time I've owned it (since 2002 at 5 months old) and saved a couple of sets of initial depreciation in the process. Only change it now if it had a problem or I needed something other than a Jazz sized car. Prefer all cars that I rent, but that's probably because they are bigger/smoother.

Assistive technologies on the driving test does seem like cheating.
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TG

[mikebore]

Miss my Mk2 very much.
Clean lines nice dash board and spacious interior BUT the Mk3 with all its safety features and infotainment screen with messages telling me that various things don't work represents PROGRESS. .....
We have to evolve.

This sounds like you find the Mk3 less spacious than the Mk2? I thought the Mk3 has more legroom in the front...is that at the expense of the rear?

EDIT...just seen this post which says space due to extra length given to rear passengers?
http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=8033.msg39443#msg39443