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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Tombola on August 25, 2024, 03:59:22 PM »I wonder how many of those affected by this have reported it here https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-recalls-and-faults/report-a-serious-safety-defect
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Saycol on August 25, 2024, 03:32:38 PM »Being the owner of a 22 registered Honda jazz crosstar I've been following the brake simulator problem from the first page of the reported fault. Although my own car hasn't (yet) and might never suffer from this issue. I'm starting to become concerned about the brake problem as the warranty is coming to an end.
Aside from a passenger side mirror motor replacement ( a known defect) and a camera recall its been very reliable , my car's warranty expires next May.
And quite honestly I thought 8 months later from the first reported faults there would have been a recall by now.
Unfortunately we are still being kept in the dark about this problem.
I have sent emails to Honda Customer care , with no real clarity on this problem in their replies.
I could pay to extend the warranty to cover this brake simulator problem, you would normally buy extra warranty to cover the unexpected happening,
But this is a known defect that Honda should be recalling and correcting .
So I have decided to trade my crosstar in just before the warranty ends.
It's an expensive risk I'm not prepared to take.
Would I buy another Honda?, definitely not , unless clarity of what cars are affected by this problem.
Customer care is now ,a couldn't care less
Keep them in the dark and feed them BS attitude.
This issue affects all mk4 owners because no one knows 100% if their cars are or aren't affected.
Hopefully a very small batch of cars are affected , and most owners will not suffer this problem .
But that not knowing if your car is one of the unlucky one's will always be there.
This is exactly why I parted company with my 2021 Crosstar earlier this year. I had been very happy with the car but didn’t see why I, the customer, should bear the uncertainty and potential inconvenience and cost of this brake simulator problem. So in March , 3 months before the warranty was due to expire I replaced it with a Lexus LBX. Honda have lost a customer and I expect will lose many more because of their approach to this known major fault.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Honda Jazz MK 5 2025
« Last post by Jazzyone on August 25, 2024, 03:25:48 PM »A new MG HS self charging hybrid SUV is supposed to be out very soon.Same running gear as the MG3. Twice the battery size of a Jazz so more ev only running. I’ll certainly be having a look at it.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 / Re: HONDA Mk3 Jazz EX electric windows sticking sometimes
« Last post by UKjim on August 25, 2024, 03:06:27 PM »Try some PTFE spray
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Honda Jazz MK 5 2025
« Last post by Tombola on August 25, 2024, 02:59:41 PM »Not me either, the MG would be tempting if that's all I could afford, it's well specced with a long warranty (which will probably be needed) but I will go with the "Japan risk" for peace of mindI think a lot of people are going to take the 'China risk'...
Not me.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Honda Jazz MK 5 2025
« Last post by ColinS on August 25, 2024, 02:17:34 PM »I think a lot of people are going to take the 'China risk'...
Not me.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Tombola on August 25, 2024, 02:09:31 PM »Its a great pity honda can engineer an outstanding hybrid drive train and all the the very hi tech knowledge from hondas F1 hybrids along with 20 year’s evolution of fine tuning the tech ! To then have an isolated problem with the brake simulator and fail to resolve it is at complete odds with where honda should be give the effort to get to todays clever hybrids ..seriously honda you absolutely know what needs to do reengineering the brake simulator never mind just swapping them all out at no cost or inconvenience to your customers . Honda europe is staffed by morons who claim the brake simulator failure isnt a safety defect .. lets see that one stand up in court . Would volvo corporately stand up and say that !!!I would think in the countries where there has been a recall a modified brake simulator will have been fitted
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Honda Jazz MK 5 2025
« Last post by Jazzik on August 25, 2024, 02:02:55 PM »Compare the OTR price tag of a Honda Jazz Advance (£29.000) and a MG3 Trophy (£21.200) and take into account the MG's 7-year manufacturer’s warranty.
I think a lot of people are going to take the 'China risk'...
I think a lot of people are going to take the 'China risk'...
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 / HONDA Mk3 Jazz EX electric windows sticking sometimes
« Last post by Twinkie on August 25, 2024, 01:59:01 PM »Hello
perhaps some kind person could advise me regarding my cars windows
Sometimes they will go down and not want to come back up and then they seem to jerk a little.
Other times they work fine is there some special Spray stuff I can use to ease them along etc .
Thank you for any advice
perhaps some kind person could advise me regarding my cars windows
Sometimes they will go down and not want to come back up and then they seem to jerk a little.
Other times they work fine is there some special Spray stuff I can use to ease them along etc .
Thank you for any advice
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Colstarr on August 25, 2024, 01:41:39 PM »Being the owner of a 22 registered Honda jazz crosstar I've been following the brake simulator problem from the first page of the reported fault. Although my own car hasn't (yet) and might never suffer from this issue. I'm starting to become concerned about the brake problem as the warranty is coming to an end.Colstarr, I have on order a 2024 Jazz Advance and, like you, have been following this topic and my thoughts are that Honda will have the problem sorted with later models, maybe just a bad batch have got through on early models, there have been recalls in other countrys with modified parts fitted to cure the fault, surely (hopefully) Honda will have introduced these modified parts to the production lines, when I take delivery (not long now) of my Jazz I will ask if this issue has been resolved
Aside from a passenger side mirror motor replacement ( a known defect) and a camera recall its been very reliable , my car's warranty expires next May.
And quite honestly I thought 8 months later from the first reported faults there would have been a recall by now.
Unfortunately we are still being kept in the dark about this problem.
I have sent emails to Honda Customer care , with no real clarity on this problem in their replies.
I could pay to extend the warranty to cover this brake simulator problem, you would normally buy extra warranty to cover the unexpected happening,
But this is a known defect that Honda should be recalling and correcting .
So I have decided to trade my crosstar in just before the warranty ends.
It's an expensive risk I'm not prepared to take.
Would I buy another Honda?, definitely not , unless clarity of what cars are affected by this problem.
Customer care is now ,a couldn't care less
Keep them in the dark and feed them BS attitude.
This issue affects all mk4 owners because no one knows 100% if their cars are or aren't affected.
Hopefully a very small batch of cars are affected , and most owners will not suffer this problem .
But that not knowing if your car is one of the unlucky one's will always be there.
I really wish you and your new Jazz advance a trouble free motoring life.
My original plan was to buy the new crosstar advance sometime towards the end of next year .
But after reading about owners who have suffered from this issue ,and the attitude of Honda offering a contribution of 40% towards the repair . Knowing that faulty
Simulators are fitted, and then owners having to chase Honda for a full refund of the cost, put me off buying another Honda.
The Honda Jazz as also become a very expensive small car now, with other manufacturers offering better value for money. I would think that majority of owners buy Honda cars because of their after care and reliability. Both of which Honda seem to be failing on.
I think you are probably correct about a modified simulator is now fitted and should be trouble free.
Honda take note. It takes years to build a company with a reputation for reliability, but it doesn't take very long to ruin it.
