New South African variant.

[Neil Ives]

The good news: It'll likely be over by March, maybe February...

Over in what sense? My understanding all along has been that we will be living with this series of virii for ever just like Influenza.

[madasafish]

Yes : Just like flu after the 1918-20 epidemic. Still here 100 years later. And mutating and still killing people.(Mostly elderly unvaccinated)

[nowster]

The good news: It'll likely be over by March, maybe February...

Over in what sense? My understanding all along has been that we will be living with this series of virii for ever just like Influenza.

The plural of virus is viruses.

"virii" would be the plural of a hypothetical second declension Latin word "virius".

Response from a Latin scholar: https://linguistlist.org/issues/15/15-1540/

[Neil Ives]

The plural of virus is viruses.

Thank you; I had no idea. 

[JimSh]

Johnson on again at 5pm
Wonder if he still sees nothing in data?
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Granted reporting of data is all over the place due to the holidays but
Confirmed cases, hospitalisations and deaths all up 50% in a week. Tests up 1%.

And its not just London
https://nitter.42l.fr/PaulMainwood/status/1478397388607954952#m

[Kremmen]

Looking at the data they are presenting, our main problem is the unvaccinated and partially unvaccinated.

Reading between the lines they seem to be allowing the country to carry on and if you are unvaccinated then that's your lookout if you do need ICU hooked up to tubes and monitors. Self inflicted misery.

[JimSh]

Looking at the data they are presenting, our main problem is the unvaccinated and partially unvaccinated.

Reading between the lines they seem to be allowing the country to carry on and if you are unvaccinated then that's your lookout if you do need ICU hooked up to tubes and monitors. Self inflicted misery.

Unfortunately the unvaccinated will not be the only ones to suffer.
The virus will also be passed to vaccinated older, more vulnerable people - not to mention those who will go untreated or undiagnosed because the health service will be otherwise engaged.
Also the country can't carry on as normal when so many key workers are off sick or isolating.

[Kremmen]

That's the sad part of it, everyone suffers.

I walked the long way to my Amazon locker yesterday. 07:00 so it was easy to see inside the lighted buses along the main road.

The most frequent bus is the 140 that runs from Harrow to Heathrow. During my walk I stopped and looked as each 140 passed, both directions.

The inside picture was the same on each bus ....... downstairs 95% mainly IC1 wearing masks. Upstairs 80%, mainly IC3 IC4 NOT wearing masks and this time of year all windows shut.

Do they not realise the risks they are taking to themselves, their own family and others.

[culzean]

Looking at the data they are presenting, our main problem is the unvaccinated and partially unvaccinated.

Reading between the lines they seem to be allowing the country to carry on and if you are unvaccinated then that's your lookout if you do need ICU hooked up to tubes and monitors. Self inflicted misery.

Unfortunately the unvaccinated will not be the only ones to suffer.
The virus will also be passed to vaccinated older, more vulnerable people - not to mention those who will go untreated or undiagnosed because the health service will be otherwise engaged.
Also the country can't carry on as normal when so many key workers are off sick or isolating.

The vaccinated and 'boosted' just as capable of spreading the virus around as the unavxxed, and maybe less likely to show overt symptoms.

[JimSh]

Looking at the data they are presenting, our main problem is the unvaccinated and partially unvaccinated.

Reading between the lines they seem to be allowing the country to carry on and if you are unvaccinated then that's your lookout if you do need ICU hooked up to tubes and monitors. Self inflicted misery.

Unfortunately the unvaccinated will not be the only ones to suffer.
The virus will also be passed to vaccinated older, more vulnerable people - not to mention those who will go untreated or undiagnosed because the health service will be otherwise engaged.
Also the country can't carry on as normal when so many key workers are off sick or isolating.

The vaccinated and 'boosted' just as capable of spreading the virus around as the unavxxed, and maybe less likely to show overt symptoms.

Er No.
Even if infected, the vaccinated and boosted person is likely to be carrying a lower viral load.
https://www.osfhealthcare.org/blog/fully-vaccinated-less-likely-to-pass-covid-19-to-others/
 Plus-- measures like mask wearing social distancing and good ventilation reduce transmission.

[nowster]

The vaccinated and 'boosted' just as capable of spreading the virus around as the unvaxxed, and maybe less likely to show overt symptoms.

Do you have a source for that assertion?

[madasafish]

"Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html

[JimSh]

The vaccinated and 'boosted' just as capable of spreading the virus around as the unavxxed, and maybe less likely to show overt symptoms.

Another source (posted by Dermot in November (reply #56) in contradiction to your statement.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

Update on testing
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/covid-19-testing-rules-following-162226281.html

I can't help but think that this is due to the testing system being overwhelmed by the high numbers.

How many people will self isolate on the basis of a lateral flow test, especially if they need to work to earn money and don't feel too bad?

[JimSh]

Latest Indie Sage Briefing. 7th January (first for 3 weeks)
You Tube Video

Main Summary Slides See attachments

See all slides here (fingers crossed)
Edit Link did not work.
Hopefully can be accessed from this page.[See the numbers here (pdf)]
https://www.independentsage.org/weekly-briefing-7th-january-2022/

Hospitals under great pressure.
Next problems returns of schools and universities

[Jocko]

Listening to Linda Bauld this morning. In Scotland, after correcting for age, you are 12.5 times more likely to end up seriously ill in hospital if you are unvaccinated than against vaccinated.
And again, in Scotland, 60% of hospital cases with Covid were admitted for Covid as against the 40% who were diagnosed with Covid on being admitted for something non-Covid related.