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Title: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on December 18, 2021, 07:07:28 PM
My Honda dealership said that Honda are issuing an update in January to allow you to set sensitivity on the Lane Keep Assist. This is because people are complaining that you can't turn it permanently off. At the moment you can do it temporarily but when you turn off the car it becomes active again.

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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: shufty on December 18, 2021, 07:39:28 PM
... Which car?
It's off by default in the Jazz.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: shufty on December 18, 2021, 07:59:03 PM
...Do you mean RDMS?
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on December 18, 2021, 10:02:20 PM
I've got the crosstar.  You can only turn the lane keep assist off once you are driving,then when you turn the engine off , it comes back on again.What do you mean by the RDMS?



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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: shufty on December 18, 2021, 10:16:18 PM
...LKAS is not on by default. You don't have to turn it on.
RDMS - road departure mitigation system is on by default every time you start the car. You have to turn it off of you don't want to use it...
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Kremmen on December 19, 2021, 04:38:18 AM
I wonder if this will be OTA or require a dealer visit ?
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on December 19, 2021, 07:23:57 AM
I'm a bit confused about what is what. I'm talking about when you are driving and get too close to the edge of the road , the car bleeps, the steering wheel tries to correct you, an orange picture of a car appears on the dash, and if you don't correct your steering, it stays on for a few minutes then resets. That's what I'm talking about, and that comes on by default every time I start the car, even if I turn it off when it happens.  This is what the dealership say can't be turned off permanently.

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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Kremmen on December 19, 2021, 07:37:14 AM
There have been previous misunderstandings as well.

The first post is 99% RDMS as I read it.

LKAS is off by default and is turned on/ off from a steering wheel button.
RDMS is on by default and performs the steering wobble and dash steering wheel icon when triggered - and is a pain.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on December 19, 2021, 09:30:19 AM
Thank you. It must be the RDMS that I mean, and that is what Honda are apparently going to issue an update on in January to enable you to turn the sensitivity down on it so it doesnt activate so much . Lots of customers complain about it.

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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Kremmen on December 19, 2021, 10:22:19 AM
I'll still turn it off.

As I've posted before, I often drive very early on a Sunday morning and I'm more often than not the only car on the road till I get to the motorway.

On the roads towards the motorway there are a few places which are dual or triple carriageway and some S bends. After re-checking all mirrors I don't follow the S but cut all the corners.
That turns the RDMS into overdrive as I cross all the white lines.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on February 18, 2022, 11:11:05 AM
I've just spoken to the salesman at the dealership that sold me my Crosstar, and he said that Honda have told him that you can now turn the RDMS sensitivity down in the settings menu . He asked me to go over there next week and we will attempt to find it,in liason with Honda . Ill keep this forum updated

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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: shufty on February 18, 2022, 11:17:25 AM
...Will have a look.

It would be nice if they sent an update to put 'brake hold assist' on by default instead of having to remember to activate it each time...
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Kremmen on February 18, 2022, 11:58:17 AM
I'm happy with brake hold off by default.

When you stop, brake hold keeps the brake lights on, dazzling all behind. I use the parking brake switch so the brake lights go out.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: shufty on February 18, 2022, 12:11:38 PM
...I put the parking brake on also but only when I've come to a complete stop and the brake hold assist is on, stopping me going forward.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: shufty on February 18, 2022, 12:28:50 PM
I've just spoken to the salesman at the dealership that sold me my Crosstar, and he said that Honda have told him that you can now turn the RDMS sensitivity down in the settings menu . He asked me to go over there next week and we will attempt to find it,in liason with Honda . Ill keep this forum updated

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...I can still only see early, normal and delayed?
That's in the driver assist system setup for RDMS. My system says it's up to date.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: sportse on February 18, 2022, 12:49:18 PM
Perhaps it will be a dealer software update - I think the over the air updates only apply to the infotainment system?
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: shufty on February 18, 2022, 12:51:28 PM
...Okey dokey. I wonder if they will notify customers?
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: sportse on February 18, 2022, 02:48:41 PM
My 21 ex is having its first service next month - I’ll check to see if there is a new menu option afterwards.

At present I have to turn RDMS off before every trip as I drive a lot on narrow country roads.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on February 24, 2022, 03:04:00 PM
I've been over to the dealership , and as shufty has said ,its in the vehicle setting menu . Go onto RDMS ( road departure mitigation system ) and it shows early, normal or delayed . We've put mine to delayed,and it makes so much difference . I've really got to be quite a way off course to activate it,which is a vast improvement .
There is still no option to permanently delete though.

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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Neil Ives on February 24, 2022, 03:12:23 PM
....
On the roads towards the motorway there are a few places which are dual or triple carriageway and some S bends. After re-checking all mirrors I don't follow the S but cut all the corners.
That turns the RDMS into overdrive as I cross all the white lines.
If you operate the turn signal before crossing the white line you will  get no RDMS warnings.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on February 24, 2022, 03:49:17 PM
Yes,but when you are driving in country lanes or B roads, it used to come on if there are white lines or not . You just had to get a bit too close to the road edge ,which is often impossible not too.

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Title: Hybrid update
Post by: sportse on February 24, 2022, 06:28:07 PM
On my 21MY it was already set to delayed when I got the car unfortunately, so there is no change for me :(

I’d hoped that this would be a new software setting available, but was the one already on mine.

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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Vinney on February 24, 2022, 06:54:37 PM
On my 21MY it was already set to delayed when I got the car unfortunately, so there is no change for me :(

I’d hoped that this would be a new software setting available, but was the one already on mine.

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I do find that makes quite a considerable difference than the normal setting though ,but it would br better if you could delete it altogether

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Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Kenneve on February 24, 2022, 07:42:08 PM
I just don't understand why Honda consider it acceptable, to be able to turn off LKAS permanently, but not RDMS
On the sort of roads I frequently use, even the Delayed setting is useless and in my opinion just downright dangerous!
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: Jayt43 on February 24, 2022, 08:13:00 PM
As I mentoned in another thread, US models (even with the same infotainment) have a turn off option. Presumably to avoid lawsuits...
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: sportse on February 24, 2022, 09:24:57 PM
I think EU manufacturers get points towards the safety rating if it is on by default.

However the Honda system isn’t much good for narrow roads - mine is manually switched off every trip however it’s a pain to do.

On several hire cars I’ve had the RDMS was one button on the dash that you just held down to turn off, similar to the traction control system.

On mine I have to cancel several screens to get the safety screen up, then when I turn it off a message stays on the screen for a few seconds before I can cancel that and get back to the normal dash display.

Honda know the Jazz system isn’t much good as they make a point of saying how improved the HRV system is.
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: madasafish on February 25, 2022, 08:33:52 AM
As I travel weekly on single track roads, I will never buy any car with such a carp system
Title: Re: Hybrid update
Post by: ColinS on February 25, 2022, 08:39:53 AM
As I travel weekly on single track roads, I will never buy any car with such a carp system
Sounds a bit fishy to me ;D