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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Battery going flat?
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 04:33:45 PM »
In my experience 99% of electrical engineers don't have an oscilloscope in their tool box, but it you have it, why not use it. Scopes have come a long way from what I cut my teeth on.

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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: The Black Pearl - Build Thread (Pic heavy)
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 04:29:50 PM »
That looks great. I am not so sure about the interior but it certainly looks "different", and well executed.

Different marque, but what about this? Believe it or not, but my daughter bought this, brand new, from SEAT. Just as you see here.

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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Battery going flat?
« Last post by culzean on Today at 04:20:10 PM »
I don't know why others think the oscilloscope is so difficult - It's not much much bigger than a DVM, and I just clip it onto the battery terminals - it just gives me a display relative to time and lets me measure voltage drops etc, I can use the headlights & HRW to add to the load.  The test didn't show any problem, probably because the engine fires up immediately.
I don't use the interior lights anymore

99% of normal people don't have a oscilloscope in their toolbox - I used to use them for catching transient events and complex waveforms, but for checking car battery voltage drop, nahhhh ! If I had paid for one and was looking to use it, maybe - but IMHO bit of an overkill.
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https://www.motor-hub.co.uk/used-cars/honda-jazz-1-4-i-dsi-s-5dr-keighley-201411279272713

Check out this bad boy, not to everyone's taste I'd imagine...
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Looking good.
It's nice to see a modded Jazz on the forum--I think this is only third one I can remember seeing .
Well done ! 8)
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Electric cars
« Last post by SteveOne on Today at 10:44:24 AM »
69 pages and no mention of FCEVs (Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles) ?
I think this would solve many of the problems - if we coud figure out how to produce them.  They are refuelled similar to a petrol/diesel, so nice and quick.  The taxman can get in on the act. The H2 can be produced by the filling station as and when the electric grid can supply the load. People without driveway parking or garages ( i.e. most car users) can use the technology.
I don't know how reliable the fuel cells are ? or how long they last - but they must be better than producing all those batteries. I think FCEVs are significantly lighter than BEVs - comparable to current gasoline powered cars.
I know the filling stations can be expensive - but would that still be true if they were as common as petrol/diesel/LPG outlets ?
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Battery going flat?
« Last post by SteveOne on Today at 10:30:32 AM »
Hello Jocko.  I agree - a car battery should be able to handle that sort of use without any problems.  Perhaps the Jazz protected the battery from too much current drain, the locks all worked, the dash lights came on, but the mult-information display didn't, and the engine wouldn't turn over.  The battery appears to have recovered without any problems, and the car starts easily after being left for several days.
I don't know why others think the oscilloscope is so difficult - It's not much much bigger than a DVM, and I just clip it onto the battery terminals - it just gives me a display relative to time and lets me measure voltage drops etc, I can use the headlights & HRW to add to the load.  The test didn't show any problem, probably because the engine fires up immediately.
I don't use the interior lights anymore
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It looks brilliant! I really like it!
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Battery going flat?
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 06:40:17 AM »
I have a Mk 1 but I turn of the ignition every time I stop at a known long traffic light (well, at least if it turns red as I approach!). Most of my travel is on short local routes, where I know when to switch off and when not. I never have any bother with battery issues, even though I listen to the radio when parked waiting for my wife (a regular occurrence) and leave the car doors open when washing and polishing the car. My battery is 2 years old (RAC, 5 years guarantee).
I have just come back from dropping my wife at her work. Because car is kept in the garage, I start it, drive out then switch off after 10 seconds while I go to lock the garage door. I then drive her to work, switch off while she gathers her things and until I see her safely into the building, and today (as usual), I got stuck at the 3 minute traffic light. So I switch off there too. I do switch to sidelights while sitting, but I have my blower on (no need for rear demister since car was garaged). That is my Monday to Friday throughout the winter. 3.6 miles at 6 am, then the same to pick her up at lunch time.
I don't know if I am just lucky, or if the low tech of the Mk 1 (no alarm, remote locking driver assist sensors, etc) places much less demand on the battery
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Battery going flat?
« Last post by nigelr on Today at 12:47:12 AM »
Glad it's sorted, Steve. I agree about the Mk3 - and most newer cars in general - increasing number of electrical circuits and loads -- I'm not a fan of stop / start -- and I too am happy with my Mk2.
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