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melanogaster81

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Advice
« on: January 14, 2015, 01:19:07 PM »
Hi Guys,
I will have to change the tyres soon on my 59 plate Jazz (185/55R16). Any suggestions on this matter? Any brand that  would significantly reduce the road noise?
Thank you

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Re: Quiet tyre advice
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 01:38:11 PM »
Although an old thread and for the GD models, it should provide some useful pointers to get you started:

http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=206.0

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Re: Advice
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 04:20:58 PM »
goodyear eagles f1 assy 2 or dunlop the rubber is a lot softer so its quieter they also do cash  back promotions

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Re: Advice
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 05:16:20 PM »
I've just put Dunlop bluresponse on mine and rate them highly. Avoid cheap Chinese tyres

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Re: Advice
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2015, 11:54:49 PM »
as i stated in a previous thread, i tend to stick with michelins

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Re: Advice
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 10:21:31 AM »
Michelin Energy Savers are very noisy on rough surfaces in the Jazz...

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Re: Advice
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 01:52:53 PM »
You could look on http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/ to see what other Jazz users say and recommend.

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 02:57:40 PM »
started off with the OE Bridgestones. Cost put me on to Uniroyals, which weren't bad but the best I've had so far are Dunlop blue sport response. Can't fault them. Dealer £117.... so i went to blackcircles. £280 for 4. had them 13 months and the fronts are currently 5mm with the rears on 6mm.

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Re: Advice
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2015, 08:16:46 AM »
Michelin Energy Savers are very noisy on rough surfaces in the Jazz...

Have changed original tyres to Michelin ES on a few cars (including Jazzes and Civics) and can't say I can agree with them being noisy on any road surface - they do have a 68dB noise rating which is lower than a  mouse in carpet slippers walking on a cushion.  My brother sold his Civic because of road noise,  all he had to do was change his tyres (he has since been in my Civic with Michelin ES fitted and now kicks himself for not fitting them to his car, he agreed that the Civic was the best car he ever had - and he has owned a few).
Some people will only consider you an expert if they agree with your point of view or advice,  when you give them advice they don't like they consider you an idiot

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Re: Advice
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2015, 03:03:36 PM »
All tyres are now labeled based on road noise, fuel efficiency and wet weather braking to help you make an informed decision.

http://www.asdatyres.co.uk/tyre-labelling

And of course you get what you pay for.

melanogaster81

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Re: Advice
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2015, 03:53:49 PM »
Thank you for the advice, and I used to look for the lower noise level..... but then

"Don't forget, the noise that you hear inside the car isn't always relative to the noise being emitted by your tyres on the outside."..... (Taken from asda")

thus, i trust more to the experience of others :)


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Re: Advice
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2015, 12:10:33 PM »
"Don't forget, the noise that you hear inside the car isn't always relative to the noise being emitted by your tyres on the outside."..... (Taken from asda")

European tyre noise regulations target the noise a tyre produces as measured outside the vehicle (ie the noise others will hear) also bear in mind that 70dB is 10x louder than 60dB and 80dB is 100x louder than 60dB due to the logarithmic (non linear scale of decibels).  This means a 68dB tyre is a lot quieter than say a 75dB one.  the difference between 60dB (normal conversation) and say 120dB (a Jumbo jet taking off)  is huge. 
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Re: Advice
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2015, 03:52:39 PM »
Very interested in this one. The tyres on my 2010 EX  are 'Pirelli Cinturato P6'. These have a rating of FEB. Considering the cost of these on a tyre comparison chart, the F for economy and E for wet road holding I felt was a little poor. The tyres did get a B for Dbs.
Looking on the chart it would appear that the 'Michelin Energy Saver plus' with a CAB rating was attractive BUT I then find 'Bridgestone  Escopia 150' with a rating of BBB. The prices quoted are roughly the same for supply. Not cheap. I am in a dilemma as the Pirelli's still have a bit of life but I am not happy with the fact that the tyre is rated so poorly on wet roads.
I am going in to see my Tyre man who has looked after me for several years to see what he will do the Michelin/Bridgestones for. Hoping a set of 4 will not break the bank BUT as we all know our tyres are all that keeps us out of the ditch.
Cheap tyres aint cheap!

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Re: Advice
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2015, 05:33:17 PM »
Let as know, please what is the verdict of your MR tyre man...

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Re: Advice
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2015, 11:21:26 AM »
I somehow put my musings on another post. The joys of age:

I spoke to my Man about the Michelin Energy Saver Plus. He looked up prices around and his price was the cheapest. £102 each. I asked about Bridgestone/Pirelli/etc and he just said, they may be a few quid cheaper BUT if you can afford the Michelin go for them. So on the phone he gets and he is told the 185/55 16 are on back order!!! I have a provisional date of February 12 next. So either Michelin didn't make many in this size OR they are becoming popular.
Finding £408 is a bit eye watering but I hope they will be worth it. Watch this space.

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