Wheels again... why so confusing?

[JazzyJ]

So... my wife has a 2006 Sport (Mk2) and I have a 2017 EX (Mk3). I want to buy some winter/all season tyres for both and ideally be able to interchange between cars if needed. BUT, looking at the wheel spec on various on-line tyre sites:

the 2006 Sport has a tyre spec of 185/55r15 and wheel spec of 6Jx15 ET53 4x100
and
the 2017 EX has a tyre spec of 185/55r16 and wheel spec of 6Jx16 ET53 4x100 or 6Jx15 ET50 4x100

So... would the 2006 Sport 6Jx15 ET53 4x100 fit the 2017 EX 6Jx16 ET53 4x100 and vice versa??

This is doing my head in.... any help would be so very much appreciated!

[VicW]

I am curious why you would want to change the wheels between cars ?

Vic.

[JazzyJ]

No particular reason and you're quite right, on reflection might be pointless. I've now found these wheels I could use as winter rims on my 2017 EX with all season tyres:

https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/alloy-wheels-brands/oxxo/oberon-4-4019/6x15-et50-4x100-56.6-909436?car=16888

The spec looks correct and although 15" and not 16" should be OK? It'll certainly make tyre choice/price more appealing. Looking at the Maxxis AP2 All Season tyres as a local garage highly recommends them. I'd use these 15" rims for winter and then put the OEM alloys back on for the summer with summer tyres.

For my wife's 2006 Sport I've been quoted £48 a corner fully fitted by a local garage on the Maxxis AP2's which seems a fair price.

So do you think the wheels on the above link will fit my 2017 EX fine?

Many thanks!!!

[richardfrost]

If you plan on alternating your wheels, why get All Season tyres, which are a compromise to avoid wheel switching, over full on Winter tyres? Winter tyres will be so much more effective in snow and ice.

[sparky Paul]

If you are fiting smaller rims to the mk3, you just need to make sure that the rims clear the front brake calipers. Although the hub setup is basically the same, the later cars have bigger discs and calipers, and bigger wheels to clear them.

[culzean]

If you plan on alternating your wheels, why get All Season tyres, which are a compromise to avoid wheel switching, over full on Winter tyres? Winter tyres will be so much more effective in snow and ice.

+1

And I would still get steel wheels for winter use as the danger of kerbing, skidding into kerbs and obstacles and damage to alloys from salt is more prevalent in winter,  and the steel rims with much less open area protect the brakes much better from salt and road crud as well..... which can cause corrosion and binding / seizing of calipers - and steel rims only need a fresh coat of Hammerite / Plastikote to bring them back to new - not £50+ a wheel for refurbishment..

[JazzyJ]

Looking at the Honda UK website it looks like the S and SE both have 15" wheels with 185/60/r15 tyres with the EX having 16" wheels and 185/55/r16 tyres. Is the 2019 EX that much different to the 2017 EX? Also, regarding All Season v Winter tyres completely get what you're saying. My thought was I could use the All Seasons throughout the year if needed whereas the Winters would struggle during the summer months. Also, from reading reviews and living in the south of England the Winters may be over kill? The reason I'm thinking of going down this route and not just keeping summers all year round is that I'm self employed and live in a fairly rural area so getting from A to B during winter is essential.

[JazzyJ]

Sorry culzean, think you posted whilst I was writing. Appreciate what you're saying about steel rims, just that I guess I want to keep the car looking good (shallow I know). The alloys I've seen (seen in the link) are supposedly 'winter' alloys so hopefully wouldn't corrode too badly and be relatively easy to repair with a dab of paint. Not the most expensive alloys at £75 each as oppose to £36 for steels.

[culzean]

The Nokian WR-D3 winter tyres on my wifes Jazz are on the car for 6 months each year and are actually wearing better than her summer tyres... ( this will be their 4th winter) the summer tyres do steer a little better but the ride is better on winters due to softer sidewalls,  and the winters are no more noisy that the summers...

[sparky Paul]

Looking at the Honda UK website it looks like the S and SE both have 15" wheels with 185/60/r15 tyres with the EX having 16" wheels and 185/55/r16 tyres. Is the 2019 EX that much different to the 2017 EX?

I seem to remember a thread where someone had some bother fitting 15" rims as winter wheels from, I think, a mk1... but I can't remember if the recipient car was a mk2 or mk3.

[JazzyJ]

Thanks culzean, I'll look into them as it does seem to make more sense to go full winter on one set and full summer on the other. I've contacted Honda on this subject but it's like pulling teeth, you think it'd be a simple answer, Honda just seem to say they can't confirm! However, the on-line sites selling the wheels/tyres (almost all exclusively based in Germany) appear to say the wheels stated in my link will fit fine??

[jazzaro]

So... would the 2006 Sport 6Jx15 ET53 4x100 fit the 2017 EX 6Jx16 ET53 4x100 and vice versa??

This is doing my head in.... any help would be so very much appreciated!

Yes, both wheels easily fit in both Jazz generation.
In Italy we have the problem that the highest trim come with only 16' wheels approved and the other two trims with only 15', so a Jazz can only mount wheels with its OEM trim specs; I had to buy 4 16' wheels for the winter set.
I hope in UK you have all measures approved.

[JazzyJ]

Hi Jazzaro. Do you have the details or even better a link to the 16" alloys you bought for your Jazz? Am I correct in assuming then that the EX steering geometry/set up is different to that of the S and SE hence the wheels can't be interchanged, even if the same year of model?

[bill ericay]

Have a look here https://www.oponeo.co.uk/advice-and-tips/tyre-size-calculator
This will explain why TYRE size is also important  , as it will affect your speedometer reading, and also your final gearing.
For example using the sizes you quoted, a 185/55 R15 tyre will have an overall diameter less than the 185/55 R16.
 

[Jocko]

185/55 R15 tyre will have an overall diameter less than the 185/55 R16.

Usually you find that the 15" wheels have 185/60 R15 tyres, which to all intent and purpose keeps the rolling radius the same.