Clubjazz - Honda Jazz & HR-V Forums

Other Hondas & General Topics => Off Topic (Non-Honda) => Topic started by: Jocko on March 19, 2020, 02:57:31 PM

Title: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 19, 2020, 02:57:31 PM
My wife and I went for a short walk this morning (she is going stir crazy) and what drove past us but a Nash/Austin Metropolitan. The phot is not the actual car I saw but an identical stock photo.

(https://i.imgur.com/G5e52pk.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: LJs JAZZ on March 19, 2020, 03:22:40 PM
I passed one of these last week, it was in immaculate condition as in your photo, turquoise  and white, with white wall tyres. This was in Manchester
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: olduser1 on March 20, 2020, 09:07:42 AM
These vehicles turn up at car shows and cause interest from younger motorists, they have never driven one...
Popluar with mid blue and yellow top over cream.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 20, 2020, 09:33:49 AM
You have to admit they are unusual. They were unusual back in the day never mind now. Whenever I see an old car out on the road I immediately think, what would it be like to drive one of those now after years of driving modern cars.
Had cause to dig out this photo of one of my old cars in the last few days.

(https://i.imgur.com/VyJpfJT.jpg)

Cost me £12 to buy (the cost of the new clutch the guy had just fitted). After a bit of work, it gave thousands of miles of reliable motoring and would even return 30 mpg on a run. Loved that car but I wouldn't want to be using it as a daily driver now. Nor having to do the maintenance.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: peteo48 on March 20, 2020, 10:01:47 AM
Did that one have the side valve engine Jocko? My first car was an Anglia that looked pretty like that one.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: MicktheMonster on March 20, 2020, 11:05:04 AM
Love that registration number Jocko, I can think of a few people that would suit
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 20, 2020, 11:47:01 AM
It had the 1172 cc side-valve engine. I had a head-on with a lorry turning across my path and back then you couldn't retain the number plate. The local scrappy said he could fiddle selling the plate so we got £200 for it. Last time I saw it it was on a puce coloured 911. It must be on retention at the moment as it is not showing on the DVLA site at present.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: olduser1 on March 20, 2020, 12:08:41 PM
I was Beetle nut for 30 years,over time it dawned on me how much more enjoyable motoring would be when I borrowed a SAAB 96 . Beetles were easy to work on 3 spanners etc oil & dreasing every 3k miles
Motorways wear out older cars other drivers dont appreciate the differances so time to change'

After that I tried SAAB 99's, Audi 80's then took to Subaru Legacy / Outbacks in the 1990's

We then came across a Jazz demo in 2002 just under £10,000 have has 6 other Jazz & kept my 1991 Legacy
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kenneve on March 20, 2020, 01:31:15 PM
Talking about more enjoyable motoring.

I recall around 1960 having a 1950 series 1 ragtop Landrover and going on holiday to Loch Lomond from Birmingham.
It required a very early morning start and it was late evening before we got to the campsite.

In later life there was a couple of further Landrovers, several Austin Metros/Rover 100s, then a Freelander, before moving onto what is now my 4th Jazz, in which I would have no hesitation in repeating that journey today and I guess probably much quicker.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: culzean on March 20, 2020, 02:34:24 PM
Also went to Scotland camping in a couple of MK1 Landrovers in late 60's,  max 50mph all the way, remember camping at Ullapool, seemed miles from anywhere ( and it is ) - and Eilean Donan castle, still a magical place in a beautiful setting.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: VicW on March 20, 2020, 02:37:09 PM
Our first car was a Vauxhall Velox that felt a bit strange and then I discovered that it only had one rear brake working. I got rid of that and bought a Standard Vanguard with a new engine. That was very comfortable and we kept it for a couple of years before it was replaced by a Ford Anglia with the sidevalve 100E engine similar to the Prefect mentioned above. I cured the reluctant vacuum powered wipers by fitting a second vacuum tank, something I repeated on a later Ford Zephyr.

Vic.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: culzean on March 20, 2020, 02:40:43 PM
Our first car was a Vauxhall Velox that felt a bit strange and then I discovered that it only had one rear brake working. I got rid of that and bought a Standard Vanguard with a new engine. That was very comfortable and we kept it for a couple of years before it was replaced by a Ford Anglia with the sidevalve 100E engine similar to the Prefect mentioned above. I cured the reluctant vacuum powered wipers by fitting a second vacuum tank, something I repeated on a later Ford Zephyr.

Vic.

Never understood those vacuum powered wipers, the faster you went the slower the wipers went,  and going uphill in a rainstorm was not for the fainthearted.... going downhill on the other hand the wipers worked great....
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: VicW on March 20, 2020, 02:51:46 PM
replaced by a Ford Anglia with the sidevalve 100E engine similar to the Prefect mentioned above. I cured the reluctant vacuum powered wipers by fitting a second vacuum tank, something I repeated on a later Ford Zephyr.
Never understood those vacuum powered wipers, the faster you went the slower the wipers went,  and going uphill in a rainstorm was not for the fainthearted.... going downhill on the other hand the wipers worked great....
[/quote]

They were powered by induction manifold depression, wider throttle openings meant lower depression/vacuum meant worse wipers. Vacuum was stored in a tank, the second tank increased the available vacuum.

Vic.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: madasafish on March 20, 2020, 03:08:22 PM
Brother and I bought a 1953 Ford Prefect with 1172sv engiine,,,  rebuilt it.. Learned car diy..

First car I owned myself was a  £30 1929 Riley 9 Monoaco with fabric body , and magneto ignition.. Carried a spare magneto as it tended to overheat and stop. Magneto in/out was  10 minute job..
Petrol tank moutnted on front bulkhead in engine bat over driver's feet.. H&S   whaotsthat?
Sold it for £80..

Those were the days  of unreliable motoring ...
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: peteo48 on March 20, 2020, 03:12:32 PM
Yep - my Anglia had the vacuum wipers as well. It was also a pig to start but, to be fair, once it was going it never let me down.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 20, 2020, 04:33:24 PM
I made up a Heath Robinson contraption to allow me to fit a mini wiper motor and cable boxes (there was nothing behind the dashboard). What a difference that made.
The first car I learned to drive on was a Vauxhall Wyvern and the wipers on that were driven off the gearbox. They were like a rev counter. The faster the engine revved the faster the wipers went!

(https://i.imgur.com/z5Lbzyh.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: zzaj on March 20, 2020, 04:38:15 PM
Brother and I bought a 1953 Ford Prefect with 1172sv engiine,,,  rebuilt it.. Learned car diy..

First car I owned myself was a  £30 1929 Riley 9 Monoaco with fabric body , and magneto ignition.. Carried a spare magneto as it tended to overheat and stop. Magneto in/out was  10 minute job..
Petrol tank moutnted on front bulkhead in engine bat over driver's feet.. H&S   whaotsthat?
Sold it for £80..

Those were the days  of unreliable motoring ...

I had a 1929 Austin Seven with the petrol tank mounted on front bulkhead. Must have been "the thing" you had to have back then. The roof came over the top of the windscreen. My Morris Eight had leather seats, a sliding roof, a windscreen that wound up from the bottom and a roller blind on the rear window (which proved very useful at the time  ;) ).
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 20, 2020, 05:11:56 PM
I think the petrol tank on the bulkhead was to allow gravity feed to the carburettor, often mounted low down on the engine. This 1920s' Ford uses that system. Photo was taken at Glamis Castle Scottish Transport Extravaganza.

(https://i.imgur.com/bF5DSAH.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 20, 2020, 05:18:39 PM
The first car we ever had was a 1939 Hillman Minx. The year was 1959 and I was 11 at the time. This was before MOTs and my dad had to get a bank loan to buy it! It had leather seats, wood dashboard, a windscreen that wound open at the bottom, fresh air vents in the footwell and even a metal sunroof (though my dad never risked opening it).

(https://www.pioneer-automobiles.co.uk/Resources/library3/Hillman_Minx_1108_rear2.gif)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: madasafish on March 20, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
I think the petrol tank on the bulkhead was to allow gravity feed to the carburettor, often mounted low down on the engine. This 1920s' Ford uses that system. Photo was taken at Glamis Castle Scottish Transport Extravaganza.

Correct.

And no water pump so huge radiator and thermo syphon.

My 1946 Rover 16 saloon had leather radiator muffs to aid engine warm up, As the cooling system contained 4 gallons or so of water, warming up was a slow process. Oil changes every 1,000 miles. Oil filter?   None. Air filter - wire mesh.. SU mechanical  fuel pump mounted on engine block under exhaust system. It did tend  to vapour lock in hot weather   stopping dead until car cooled down.. Blackwall tunnel.. just got out and it stopped...
Many fond memories - went on honeymoon to  Dumfries in it... Kept removing confetti years later..

Brake fade on long Highland descent in Aberdeenshire : all four drums glowing red and stink and white smoke from asbestos brake linings. (I used freewheel so no engine braking on overrun - never again...)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: zzaj on March 20, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
I remember, one summer, taking a "sit up and beg" Ford Anglia over the Pyrenees from France to Spain which developed fuel starvation as the car climbed the hills. Turned the car round and reversed for a few miles up over the top. It worked fine! Then, it was down hill all the way. Gravity is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 20, 2020, 09:04:01 PM
Dad had a 1946 Ford Anglia. Every time you went over a bump the driver's window would disappear down into the door. Ended up sticking a batten of wood between the glass and the door bottom. It also kept jumping out of gear so dad had to drive with his hand on the gear lever.
I would sneak it out of the garage and freewheel down the long lane to the road, then stick it in reverse and wind it back up with the starting handle (saw that trick on "Ice Cold In Alex" only they took the spark plugs out). The registration number was FFG 8.

Just like this one.
(https://motorbase.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2009/01/26/fs_dsc00149.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on April 21, 2020, 12:46:41 PM
Driving into Edinburgh today I just spotted an immaculate M reg Range Rover. Yucky green colour but pristine. What's M? 1974 or 75! Just checked. 1973.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on April 22, 2020, 03:23:12 PM
Today, again in Edinburgh, I pulled up behind a Beetle with a split rear screen. It looked a bit rough but as far as I am aware it was at least 67 years old! Wish I looked as well for my age.
Same as this one.
(https://carlassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cars3_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on June 05, 2020, 09:08:08 AM
While travelling on the Edinburgh City Bypass this morning I spotted a police patrol car, lights flashing, in lane 2 of the opposite carriageway. Traffic on my carriageway started to slow, and I thought it was the usual rubbernecking, but it was a middle-aged woman with two large bags of shopping on the central reservation, trying to cross. Now despite lockdown and reduced vehicles, this is still a busy dual carriageway with traffic, mainly heavy trucks, travelling at 50 - 60 mph. I hope she got a fine and not just a good talking to.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: ColinB on June 05, 2020, 11:48:48 AM
I hope she got a fine and not just a good talking to.

Depends on whether the Edinburgh City Bypass is a motorway or not. If it is then M-way rules apply and walking on it is illegal so she could be fined. If it's not a motorway then she is perfectly entitled to be there. Maybe not an intelligent or safe thing to do, but not illegal. There's a section of the A303 (fast rural dual carriageway) that actually has pedestrian warning signs and gaps in the central barrier where public footpaths cross the road.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on June 05, 2020, 12:12:57 PM
There are signs at each on-ramp saying no bicycles, no animals and no pedestrians.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Derkie54 on June 05, 2020, 12:47:28 PM
Interesting posts  :)
My first car was a VW Beetle, it had a pneumatic windscreen washer system which was powered by a tube connected to the spare wheel.
You had to be careful, if you had a puncture there was always a possibility that the spare was flat  :(
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: ColinB on June 05, 2020, 12:59:47 PM
There are signs at each on-ramp saying no bicycles, no animals and no pedestrians.

Ah well, you didn’t say that did you! If that’s the case then you’re right your pedestrian shouldn’t have been there (although it does beg the question about how someone crossing a road is supposed to know about signage positioned so that only drivers would see it). But in general on any road not an M-way and where no local regulations have been applied, including dual carriageways, there is no ban on pedestrians or any other type of road user.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: JimSh on June 05, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
Today, again in Edinburgh, I pulled up behind a Beetle with a split rear screen. It looked a bit rough but as far as I am aware it was at least 67 years old! Wish I looked as well for my age.
My first car was one of these.
No synchromesh on any of the gears.
I've still got the toolbox and some of the original tools. The toolbox fitted into the spare wheel under the bonnet.
Carried it in all my cars up until I had the Jazz.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on October 10, 2020, 03:12:47 PM
Heading south on the M90 I came upon this at the Scotstoun Curve.

(https://i.imgur.com/IkSWxKq.jpg)

Obviously rolled in the chippings as they were all over the carriageway. My issue was trying to slow down and travel in a straight line through the loose stones.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: John Ratsey on October 10, 2020, 04:38:17 PM
Heading south on the M90 I came upon this at the Scotstoun Curve.

Obviously rolled in the chippings as they were all over the carriageway. My issue was trying to slow down and travel in a straight line through the loose stones.
Without touching the brake pedal, I presume?
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on October 10, 2020, 05:20:19 PM
Most definitely. I rode a motorcycle for enough years to know how treacherous that piece of tarmac was.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on October 10, 2020, 10:37:27 PM
Heading south on the M90 I came upon this at the Scotstoun Curve.

(https://i.imgur.com/IkSWxKq.jpg)

That looks familiar, I'm pretty sure that's where I once came upon a large Audi estate sideways on across the carriageway a few years ago. These sorts of squeaky bum moments tend to stick in your mind...
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on October 13, 2020, 10:39:26 AM
I had to take my polydactyl cat to the vet to have her claws clipped. She is the original "scaredy-cat", and I cannot get near her to do them myself.
While there, it is common to see the usual array of cats, dogs, rabbits and even the odd tortoise. Today however a chap brought in a mustang!
Not any old mustang, however. This was a bright orange, 2019, 5 Litre Ford Mustang. What a glorious sound it made as the V8 burbled away. A delight to a petrolheads ears.

(https://i.imgur.com/d7633qI.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on November 11, 2020, 10:27:22 PM
Today I was taking my wife over to Dalkeith to visit her Mum in the care home. Heading south towards the Queensferry Crossing there is an inside lane which joins as the on-ramp from Rosyth and continues to become the off-ramp for Ferry Toll. As we approached it, the Smart signs restricted the speed limit to 50, and the first sign above the inside lane indicated Lane Closed. So did the second and beyond that, a crew were trying to remove a load of junk that had fallen into the carriageway from a skip lorry (visible on the off-ramp). I was suddenly aware of a woman in a Ford Focus convertible coming up alongside me in the closed lane. The guys waved her to get out of the lane, but we were doing 50 mph, and she was trying to undertake me and had nowhere to go. She drove right through and over the debris.
With a bit of luck, she will need to replace a tyre or too and hopefully much more than that.
Some drivers have no idea what the overhead motorway signs mean. Luckily she didn't plough into the crew at work there.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on November 11, 2020, 10:51:19 PM
All okay? Good to see you are getting some visiting in.

Some drivers have no idea what the overhead motorway signs mean.

Either that, or perhaps paying more attention to you than what was going on in front. Or not paying attention at all... have you noticed that more drivers are using mobile phones again? I seem to be seeing it more and more.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on November 12, 2020, 04:58:27 AM
Has to have been looking at some other 'thing' rather than out of the windscreen ?
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on November 12, 2020, 07:03:13 AM
Either that, or perhaps paying more attention to you than what was going on in front.
It is difficult to miss two sets of lane closed signs, or at least I would find it difficult to miss them.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kenneve on November 12, 2020, 09:46:26 AM
Today I was taking my wife over to Dalkeith to visit her Mum in the care home.

It would seem that the regulations are a little different in Scotland, compared to England.
My wife has been in a care home for just over 2 years, living with Alzheimer's and I have not seen her since August, apart from Facetime calls, and prior to that I was limited to 1/2 hour visits in a gazebo in the garden of the home, from the first lockdown onwards.

Whilst I do prefer the Facetime calls, rather than a basic telephone call, as I can make a visual judgement as how how she is feeling, I do know that she is very confused, just seeing my face on an Ipad and does not really understand what she is seeing, or what is going on.

I have to say, I'm finding it hard going at the moment, but try to keep myself busy with my various interests.
Although, even my visits to my model club, the Birmingham SME, have now been stopped due to the latest change in the regulations.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on November 12, 2020, 10:16:02 AM
Mum is allowed the one visit a week, outside, and always the same designated visitor. She is very deaf, so Facetime and telephone calls are not really satisfactory. We have a flip chart, and if my wife has problems getting something through to Mum, she writes it on the chart in big, bold print.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on November 12, 2020, 06:13:51 PM
I hope they soon do something with fast testing for care home visitors. The restrictions as they are cause a lot of pain and anguish.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on November 27, 2020, 07:24:16 AM
Today, after dropping my wife off at her work (06:30 ish), I came down to a T-junction controlled by traffic lights. As I approached them, they changed to red, and I stopped. A few seconds later, a car arrived from the other side, slowed down a little, then blatantly continued through the red light. I think being in the crew of an unmarked traffic car must be the best job in the world.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on November 27, 2020, 07:35:17 AM
I've hoped to see something I can report via my dashcam.

So far, in over 7 years I've only seen one and that was an idiot overtaking on the inside then cutting across, just as I was overtaking a truck. Only inches in it.

Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on November 27, 2020, 09:23:03 AM
Today, after dropping my wife off at her work (06:30 ish), I came down to a T-junction controlled by traffic lights. As I approached them, they changed to red, and I stopped. A few seconds later, a car arrived from the other side, slowed down a little, then blatantly continued through the red light. I think being in the crew of an unmarked traffic car must be the best job in the world.

My best squeaky bum moment this year was a few months ago, I was just returning my Dad's car after taking it for MOT - sadly, no dashcam.

There's a zero visibility hump-backed river bridge near me that's only just wide enough for two cars to pass. After numerous accidents, they eventually made it single carriageway and installed traffic lights about 20-odd years ago...

I approached the bridge, lights on green, so I carry on over the bridge... to be met on the other side by a woman in a hatchback just pulling up at the red light, and an idiot in a truck cab pickup overtaking her on my side of the road. He was going over the bridge regardless of what the lights said.

The look on the woman's face was of total horror. I braked hard, fortunately I was not going fast. He had to dive in front of the hatchback and stop beyond the traffic lights - where he could no longer see them. Further mayhem then ensued. A second later, and we would have met on the brow, where there's nowhere to go.

Why on earth would you do such a thing? It's like putting a gun to your head with one bullet in it.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: ColinB on November 27, 2020, 09:50:03 AM
Why on earth would you do such a thing?

<rant mode: on>
Prevailing attitude in some sections of society today seems to be that rules (including things like red lights, parking restrictions, speed limits, social distancing, etc) are for other people. There's very little chance of getting caught so it's OK isn't it? The idea that if we all obeyed these things then society would be a better place for all of us seems to be regarded as a quaint old-fashioned notion that's had it's day because it interferes with an individual's freedom to do whatever he or she wants.
<rant mode: off>
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: d2d4j on November 27, 2020, 10:52:14 AM
Hi

I was always taught if driving over a blind bridge single carriageway, to sound my horn before cresting the top

I do not know if this still the case, but I always still do this and any passengers look at me silly

I don’t think it would have saved you though if it was seconds earlier as it sounds like you met an selfish driver

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on November 27, 2020, 02:09:27 PM
I was always taught if driving over a blind bridge single carriageway, to sound my horn before cresting the top

I do not know if this still the case, but I always still do this and any passengers look at me silly

I don’t think it would have saved you though if it was seconds earlier as it sounds like you met an selfish driver

I would regard anyone that piles on through a red light as pretty selfish, yes! Attached a google streetview of the other driver's approach to the bridge - as I crested the top, he was overtaking a car stopping at the lights. I think I was lucky not to meet him nearer the crest.

We have have a few humpty-back bridges around here, and I will sound the horn and crawl over where visibility is impossible. This bridge is a long hump on a fairly fast, busy A road, and is now light controlled so it's only one way - if a red light won't stop them, I don't think my hooter will do any good.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on December 11, 2020, 08:07:44 PM
Today I had an early start and was heading over the Forth to the south side of Edinburgh. As soon as I joined the M90 at Rosyth there was a 40 mph speed limit (it is a Smart motorway but with proper hard shoulders). The 40 mph continued all the way to the M9 approaching the airport. As you approach the M9 there is an overhead gantry with a speed camera (there are a few on this section of Smart motorway) and like all the others signs it was showing 40 mph.

(https://i.imgur.com/KUFTfrI.jpg)

By the time I reached it the traffic was thinning nicely and as I travelled at bang on 40 mph the cars were flying past me in the outside lane. I saw three of them trigger the camera (bright flashes at that time of day). They didn't even start to slow as the cars in front were flashed. At that time of the morning, I cannot believe they were all "visitors". They must have known there is a camera there unless they are blind as bats. That is one "Christmas card" that will drop through their letter box shortly.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on December 12, 2020, 04:19:44 AM
Those hanging off the side cameras are called HADECS 3.

They are super accurate and are variable. Over on a safety camera forum there have been a few people posting that they have been fined for exceeding 'true' 70mph when that was the limit in force.

When queried the reply was along the lines of, all car speedos over read so to be doing 71mph your speedo must have been reading nearer to 75mph so pay the fine, get your points and go away.

All smart motorways have Hadecs as does the M25 in places. They are currently being installed on the M4 between junctions  8/9 and 10 and no doubt more will appear as the M4 is completed.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on December 16, 2020, 05:42:30 PM
I had an interesting trip today, over to visit Mum. First off, I had a police escort from the end of the M8 to the Sheriffhall roundabout. I was behind a truck, and a convoy of two load loaders with overhanging loads (portacabins), followed by an Escort Vehicle, caught us up. Two police motorcycle outriders accompanied them. As we approached the roundabout at the end of the M8, one bike shot past us, blue lights on, stopped the traffic on the roundabout and waved us through. This continued at every on-ramp from there to the Sheriffhall roundabout. A bike would shoot past, stop the traffic on the on-ramp and let us all through unhindered. At the Sheriffhall roundabout, there was a car broken down, but as it is four lanes wide, it didn't hinder us. I then turned off there.

On our return, I was entering the light controlled Sheriffhall roundabout when a BMW X5 came through the Red light right in front of me. The thing is, I was the third vehicle in line away from my light! He then stopped at the next set of lights and sat there when it turned Green. I had to give him a blast on the horn. He must have been colour blind, drunk, confused or stupid. He then shot off and went through the next set of lights on the roundabout (6 routes) on Amber. An interesting trip today.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on December 16, 2020, 06:34:33 PM
Interesting journey there Jocko. The police riders are very talented. It is good to watch them work as an efficient team.

Re traffic light snoozers, I tend to count to three, and then give them a quick motivating beep of the horn. Remind them it is time to stop texting or whatever else it is they are doing!
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on December 16, 2020, 06:47:44 PM
Re traffic light snoozers, I tend to count to three, and then give them a quick motivating beep of the horn.
I too allow three seconds. Let's face it; we have all missed a green light. I have even stopped at one!
And let's face it. The Jazz only ever gives a beep. My FIAT 126 had Maserati Air Horns. Now that got the attention.
One time I was crawling in traffic when two women jooked between me and the car I was following. I sounded the horn, and one of them actually leapt higher than the bonnet. Wish I had had a dashcam back then.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on December 16, 2020, 07:06:54 PM
Re traffic light snoozers, I tend to count to three, and then give them a quick motivating beep of the horn.
I too allow three seconds. Let's face it; we have all missed a green light. I have even stopped at one!
And let's face it. The Jazz only ever gives a beep. My FIAT 126 had Maserati Air Horns. Now that got the attention.
One time I was crawling in traffic when two women jooked between me and the car I was following. I sounded the horn, and one of them actually leapt higher than the bonnet. Wish I had had a dashcam back then.

 ;D I like the fact you stayed Italian with the air horns, although I would have thought they would be worth more than the car! The women would have made a funny video.

Yeah, three seconds, pleased I'm not the only one. We've all missed a light change, but I think a small beep is friendly enough, especially from a Honda horn.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: culzean on December 16, 2020, 08:52:12 PM
Re traffic light snoozers, I tend to count to three, and then give them a quick motivating beep of the horn.
I too allow three seconds. Let's face it; we have all missed a green light. I have even stopped at one!
And let's face it. The Jazz only ever gives a beep. My FIAT 126 had Maserati Air Horns. Now that got the attention.
One time I was crawling in traffic when two women jooked between me and the car I was following. I sounded the horn, and one of them actually leapt higher than the bonnet. Wish I had had a dashcam back then.

 ;D I like the fact you stayed Italian with the air horns, although I would have thought they would be worth more than the car! The women would have made a funny video.

Yeah, three seconds, pleased I'm not the only one. We've all missed a light change, but I think a small beep is friendly enough, especially from a Honda horn.

I am embarrassed to use the horn on wifes Jazz, it is so feeble.  The Civic horn much better, on previous cars including our mk1 Jazzes I fitted Fiat horns ( from scrapyard ) which had an ear catching tone, also fitted Ford horns in the past which are pretty loud.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: MartinJG on December 16, 2020, 11:13:57 PM
Re traffic light snoozers, I tend to count to three, and then give them a quick motivating beep of the horn.
I too allow three seconds. Let's face it; we have all missed a green light. I have even stopped at one!
And let's face it. The Jazz only ever gives a beep. My FIAT 126 had Maserati Air Horns. Now that got the attention.
One time I was crawling in traffic when two women jooked between me and the car I was following. I sounded the horn, and one of them actually leapt higher than the bonnet. Wish I had had a dashcam back then.

That's a Willy Lomanism! So it's true, it does happen after all... :)

'He stops at a green light and then it turns red and he goes.'  Line from Happy, the youngest son, in Arthur Miller's classic, 'Death of a Salesman'.)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on December 17, 2020, 07:14:22 AM
Two guys in a car drive right through the red light. "Man, you just ran that red light!" exclaimed the passenger. "Don't worry, my brother does it all the time," said the driver. They continue driving through town and then proceed to drive through another stoplight.

"You just ran another stop light! You're going to get us killed!" screamed the nervous passenger. "Don't worry, my brother does it all the time," repeated the driver. Moments later, they approached a green light, and they came to a halting stop. "Why are you stopping?" asked the anxious passenger. The driver turned and said, "Because my brother might be coming!"
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on December 17, 2020, 08:21:42 AM
Haven't heard that one for years :D
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on December 17, 2020, 09:25:13 AM
I am embarrassed to use the horn on wifes Jazz, it is so feeble.  The Civic horn much better, on previous cars including our mk1 Jazzes I fitted Fiat horns ( from scrapyard ) which had an ear catching tone, also fitted Ford horns in the past which are pretty loud.
:D I think a horn is part of a cars character. A loud horn wouldn't suit the Jazz!
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on December 17, 2020, 10:30:23 AM
To begin with, the horns were the normal red, but I later painted the horns black. Camouflage!

(https://i.imgur.com/Z53ykxV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7J4vgH5.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on December 17, 2020, 12:35:41 PM
:D I think a horn is part of a cars character. A loud horn wouldn't suit the Jazz!

Next time I'm in the Jazz, I'll give it a 'poop poop' and feel like Mr Toad!  ;)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on December 17, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
To begin with, the horns were the normal red, but I later painted the horns black. Camouflage!

Given the size of those horns and the car being rear engined, I want to know did you ever achieve VTOL ??  :D
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on December 17, 2020, 03:29:59 PM
Good for doing wheelies!
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on December 24, 2020, 05:26:32 PM
A photo of the Suffolk coast looking lovely just before dusk today. We are off into lockdown tier 4, so this is my last view of the sea for 2020.  :( Here's hoping we can get back to normal soon.  :)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2021, 09:21:53 AM
Saw a car this morning with the reg FK51 FEK. Don't know if FEK was his initials, or the whole thing was just how he feels.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on January 16, 2021, 11:30:17 AM
I was looking out of the window yesterday, and a Citroen BX drove past!
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2021, 11:46:32 AM
This morning I was overtaken by a Honda e. First I have seen in the flesh. Looks a lot bigger than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on January 16, 2021, 12:39:09 PM
@sparkyPaul - Citroen BX, lovely cars. Had the 8v GTi in red. Warm hatch heaven.

I saw this advertised today. #Ireallywantone  :D

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012317529337?advert-type=dealer-stock&advertising-location=at_cars&advertising-location=at_profile_cars&fromDealerSearchResults=%2Fdealers%2Fcambridgeshire%2Fmarch%2Fcambridgeshire-used-car-sales-limited-10012421%2Fstock%3Fadvertising-location%3Dat_cars%26advertising-location%3Dat_profile_cars%26dealer%3D10012421%26onesearchad%3DUsed%26onesearchad%3DNearly%20New%26page%3D2%26sort%3Dprice-asc&dpp=10012421&modal=photos (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012317529337?advert-type=dealer-stock&advertising-location=at_cars&advertising-location=at_profile_cars&fromDealerSearchResults=%2Fdealers%2Fcambridgeshire%2Fmarch%2Fcambridgeshire-used-car-sales-limited-10012421%2Fstock%3Fadvertising-location%3Dat_cars%26advertising-location%3Dat_profile_cars%26dealer%3D10012421%26onesearchad%3DUsed%26onesearchad%3DNearly%20New%26page%3D2%26sort%3Dprice-asc&dpp=10012421&modal=photos)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: richardfrost on January 16, 2021, 01:05:25 PM
Neighbours at my last house, so over 22 years ago, had one of these. Lovely car but not the most reliable even then.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on January 16, 2021, 01:25:35 PM
Neighbours at my last house, so over 22 years ago, had one of these. Lovely car but not the most reliable even then.

Yes, they were a bit wobbly. Brother had one as a family car, to be fair it only ever let them down once when on holiday - the exhaust fell off driving on/off the ferry, can't remember which.

I do remember that after several years happy motoring, he sold it on to someone local... and a week later the main spider return pipe broke, spewing all the hydraulic fluid all over the road  :-[
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on January 16, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
The XM in that add has a lots of suspension work done at Pleiades of Sawtry. They have a fantastic reputation and really know there stuff.

I've never bought from the vendor, but I have had a phone call with him on another car I was interested in. He strikes me as an honest bloke, and if you read the add he mentions the warts that the car has. which is most unlike a motor trader these days.

An 2.1 TD XM.   8) I am so tight, I can't get near to £4k for the old bus though. I've got it in my bookmarks, and if post lock down it drops, I may well go and have a look as he is only an hour away from me. If it was £2495, I'd be starting a "Look at what I've just bought" thread.  :D
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on January 16, 2021, 02:19:33 PM
An 2.1 TD XM.   8) I am so tight, I can't get near to £4k for the old bus though. I've got it in my bookmarks, and if post lock down it drops, I may well go and have a look as he is only an hour away from me. If it was £2495, I'd be starting a "Look at what I've just bought" thread.  :D

It's a lot of money, and a big mileage, but good ones are rare now, especially as that's a late phase 1 car which had all the electrical earthing maladies... I prefer the look of the phase 1 though, and the interior and unconventional dash. Mine was almost identical apart from the colour.

Those seats are supremely comfortable on long journeys.

The suspension on the XM was pretty bullet proof if kept in good order and serviced regularly, the pipework was much better quality than the BX, and all plastic coated.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on January 16, 2021, 05:05:26 PM
I hadn't noticed the mileage. Works out at 8k mpa, so at least the old girl has been used. Its got Michelin tyres, nice wheels and five windows each side. Lovely colour and a boot spoiler.  :) Such a good looking car.

The interior of that car just looks lovely. It would be a nice place to be on your trip to Shetland. It would make a great companion for a cruise from Calair to St Tropez.  8)

My CX had the rolling drum dials and rocker switch indicatiors. I never got bored of the dials and the rocker switch was so intuitive to use day to day. Radio between the seats was bonkers though.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2021, 05:19:43 PM
I've never owned a Citroen though my last works van was a Citroen Berlingo and it was a pleasant and comfortable drive.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on January 16, 2021, 05:31:00 PM
The MK1 Berlingo have a bit of a cult following these days. The 2.0 HDi engined version of those are capable of racking up proper mileage. I've seen them with 300k+  :)

My Mum has a Peugeot Partner in Spain. Its 15 yrs old now and never gone wrong, which is impressive because my Mum is very hard on cars with zippo mechanical sympathy! :D Easy to get into and loads of room for her dogs too. I understand the newer ones are not as good. 

Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2021, 07:02:50 PM
This was my usual daily driver.

(https://i.imgur.com/KZ55AwJ.jpg)

Occasionally, I would get the depot manager's van, a little older but hardly used and with air-con.

(https://i.imgur.com/E0hk32c.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on January 16, 2021, 07:06:40 PM
My CX had the rolling drum dials and rocker switch indicatiors. I never got bored of the dials and the rocker switch was so intuitive to use day to day. Radio between the seats was bonkers though.

All the XM hatchbacks have the spoiler. Looking at the paperwork, that car has had some major tittivating, bodywork and such... the coated chromework was poor, most of them had some corroded bits. The dot matrix display is still working though, lots of those have failed now.

The XM should have a Clarion radio cassette under the flap, not that monstrosity that's been fitted. Press the button below and the damped flap goes up and in, really neat like a mini garage door. I do prefer originality...

I remember the dials on the CX, real wierd. In fact, the whole dash was weird! The weirdest thing on the XM was the foot operated parking brake, the whole setup really suited an auto gearbox, rather than a manual.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: zzaj on January 16, 2021, 07:50:21 PM
Wasn't the XM the last car made with a single spoke steering wheel?
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on January 16, 2021, 08:38:40 PM
Wasn't the XM the last car made with a single spoke steering wheel?

Possibly, the later phase 2 cars had a two spoke affair, similar to the Xantia.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on January 19, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
One advantage of having a dirty Jazz this time of year, is that you can see that the number plate lights are working!  :D
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 03, 2021, 06:03:42 PM
Saw my first 21 plate today. A Surf Blue Crosstar. Nice colour.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 13, 2021, 03:06:54 PM
This is what happens when you lose concentration/play with your satnav/fall asleep. Seen on the M8, heading into Edinburgh this morning.

Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 13, 2021, 03:27:23 PM
Saw this 1982-83 Volkswagen Jetta this morning in Kirkcaldy. It is amazing how may Volkswagens of that age are still going about.

(https://i.imgur.com/h9tuDqs.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on March 13, 2021, 04:03:44 PM
That van driver was a total pillock. Just imagine if there had been a vehicle on the hard shoulder. Lunatic.

That Jetta is a peach. Lovely colour too. Nice looking motor. I wonder what the back at the bottom is hiding? I've done that to more than one car to cover up rust and my terrible body filliing.  ;D
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on March 15, 2021, 08:52:48 AM
The black will up to the level of some welding, maybe rear wheelarch/door shut. Quite often see sills blacked for patches.

A lot of these old 80s cars are coming out of the woodwork, that Jetta will be tax and MOT exempt in a year or two.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on March 22, 2021, 10:13:24 AM
Took this photo on Saturday of one of my favourite trees in Kings Forsest. It looks like it's had an interesting and long life.  :D
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: richardfrost on March 22, 2021, 10:15:39 AM
I love me a gnarly tree and that is one heck of a gnarly tree. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 22, 2021, 10:45:39 AM
An amazing tree for kids climbing. I wonder how many wee boys have shouted, "Look, Mum." from the branches of that tree.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on March 22, 2021, 11:10:33 AM
I've got a gnarly old apple tree that's got exactly the same sort of list on.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on March 25, 2021, 09:15:50 AM
I took these the other day in Kings Forest. The forest is managed and is mainly pine trees, but some old deciduous trees have been left. Amazing shapes!

(https://i.imgur.com/dpDnmBI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/isZC0Fk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BsTjCS0.jpg)



Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on March 25, 2021, 09:17:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/2P4Gfx6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wZhfttD.jpg)


Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 30, 2021, 01:24:49 PM
Putting my car away this morning when a black Transit van owned by a local plumber pulled in. And the registration letters> P2 BOG.
Classic.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on March 30, 2021, 05:05:31 PM
Well, as we are now living under a change in lockdown rules and are allowed out, took a drive to our local stately home yesterday. Honda in the sun.  8)

 
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: springswood on March 31, 2021, 11:02:07 AM
Not actually today but I did see a Honda e. It was parked and I was driving by, still it looked every bit as good as the pictures. Dark blue.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on March 31, 2021, 11:15:11 AM
Not actually today but I did see a Honda e. It was parked and I was driving by, still it looked every bit as good as the pictures. Dark blue.
I passed one on the motorway the other day and it appeared a lot bigger than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Pine on April 01, 2021, 06:59:20 PM
I stopped in a car park today and within minutes a Mk4 Jazz reversed into the space beside me.  As it manoeuvred back and forth I was surprised at how loud the whine was from the electric motor.  However one thing I really did like was the metallic red paintwork.  With a good clean and polish I'm sure it would look very shinny. Red could be at the top of my list if I decide to get a Jazz.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: John Ratsey on April 02, 2021, 08:45:39 AM
As it manoeuvred back and forth I was surprised at how loud the whine was from the electric motor.  However one thing I really did like was the metallic red paintwork.  With a good clean and polish I'm sure it would look very shinny. Red could be at the top of my list if I decide to get a Jazz.
I wonder how much of what you've heard is actually motor noise and how much is the added noise the vehicle makes when running on battery as a warning to those in the vicinity. I've never managed to hear what warning noise my Crosstar makes but I would like it to sound like a steam engine where the noise depends on the speed.

Yes, it's a shiny red. I don't think of it being metallic.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on April 02, 2021, 08:56:03 AM
I wonder how much of what you've heard is actually motor noise and how much is the added noise the vehicle makes when running on battery as a warning to those in the vicinity.
I thought the same, then I decided it was only BEVs that had this fitted. I didn't realise it was fitted to the Mk4, but it makes sense.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Pine on April 02, 2021, 09:13:15 AM
Yes the Jazz does have an acoustic alert at low speeds to warn pedestrians of the cars presence.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on April 25, 2021, 04:23:13 PM
Today I saw an immaculate Mini Moke, similar to this one. Years since I last saw one.

(https://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay153611.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: richardfrost on April 25, 2021, 06:53:05 PM
Lovely. Hired one on these for a day on Crete in 1986. Was a great day and a lovely drive. But then not long previous to that my car was a green minivan.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on April 25, 2021, 07:03:48 PM
Not seen a Moke in many a moon. I have a soft spot for Mini's, as I passed my driving test in a '85 Mini Mayfair.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on April 25, 2021, 07:19:34 PM
I never owned a mini, but my daughter's first car was a mini, which we brush painted, and the few times I drove it, I loved it.

(https://i.imgur.com/cBRkDYI.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Bazzzer on April 25, 2021, 07:23:36 PM
I enjoyed my Mini Monte Carlo

Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: sparky Paul on April 25, 2021, 08:38:26 PM
First car I ever 'drove' was a blue Mini Clubman, down a dirt track though as I was too young to have a licence.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on April 25, 2021, 11:03:21 PM
My first drive was a Vauxhall Victor, on the A9 up to Inverness. I was 16. My mate's dad was a bevvy merchant and we kept stopping at pubs. So not only was I underage, but I was also under the influence!

(https://img.hmn.com/fit-in/900x506/filters:upscale()/stories/2018/08/120001.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on April 26, 2021, 04:00:42 AM
Compared to the PA Cresta they always looked tame. My favourite is still the 1960 Zodiac though.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 08, 2021, 05:55:02 PM
Today I saw an immaculate 1999 Honda Civic.

And once again I saw the multicoloured Honda e that frequents the M8 - M9 - M90 area.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 08, 2021, 07:35:27 PM
Parked in Felixstowe this afternoon. What a beauty.  8)

(https://i.imgur.com/FdeO9x8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rmy7A6w.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 08, 2021, 09:00:28 PM
Looks nice for 92,000 miles.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: E27006 on May 11, 2021, 07:54:09 AM
Looks nice for 92,000 miles.
Possibly restored,  old 2CVs for restoration   sell for considerable sums of money
Remarkable cars, those who mock the 2CV do not appreciate the advanced thinking   by the engineers who designed the 2CV during the late 1930s,  not many mock a Citroen DS, but the 2CV is also a marvel in engineering terms
Youtube:  search term   "the tin snail Equinox" for a  documentary
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: embee on May 11, 2021, 10:21:38 AM
I always had a soft spot for the Citroen Traction Avant. Considering it dated back to the mid 1930s it was incredibly advanced. Unitary welded body/chassis, rack and pinion steering, and of course front wheel drive. Brilliant and stylish............. and made in Slough!!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_Traction_Avant#:~:text=The%20Citro%C3%ABn%20Traction%20Avant%20(French,Citro%C3%ABn%20from%201934%20to%201957.&text=Additionally%2C%20the%20car%20was%20also,of%20rack%20and%20pinion%20steering.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 11, 2021, 10:49:31 AM
Possibly restored,  old 2CVs for restoration   sell for considerable sums of money
Remarkable cars, those who mock the 2CV do not appreciate the advanced thinking   by the engineers who designed the 2CV during the late 1930s,  not many mock a Citroen DS, but the 2CV is also a marvel in engineering terms
Youtube:  search term   "the tin snail Equinox" for a  documentary
Brilliant cars. I've had two Dyane's and a 2CV. Covered circa 40k miles in them combined. They never let me down, and always returned great MPG. Ride comfort that car designers today have forgotten all about. Lean angles for the brave, but those little 125 tyres do hang on!

The prototypes were hidden during the occupation in the 40's, to stop them falling into the wrong hands. Yeah, I'm a fan.

I went the UK Citroen Centenary nr Coventry in 2019. What a day that was. All Citroens were there. My photo's do not do justice to the day, but a couple of my personal favourites.

(https://i.imgur.com/Jixhiwk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/B3rH6mw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OFDkDdR.jpg)
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 11, 2021, 10:54:19 AM
I always had a soft spot for the Citroen Traction Avant. Considering it dated back to the mid 1930s it was incredibly advanced. Unitary welded body/chassis, rack and pinion steering, and of course front wheel drive. Brilliant and stylish............. and made in Slough!!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_Traction_Avant#:~:text=The%20Citro%C3%ABn%20Traction%20Avant%20(French,Citro%C3%ABn%20from%201934%20to%201957.&text=Additionally%2C%20the%20car%20was%20also,of%20rack%20and%20pinion%20steering.
Stunning cars, they were so advanced for their time. I would love to have a drive in one. Interestingly, they were transport of choice for the Gestapo.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on May 11, 2021, 11:46:44 AM
I had 3 Citroen Xantias and the suspension was amazing.

Then they replaced them with the C5 and they tried to replicate it with electronic suspension - and failed. It was rock hard. My dealer replaced the rear spheres with ones from the estate version and that helped.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 12, 2021, 08:33:36 AM
I had 3 Citroen Xantias and the suspension was amazing.

Then they replaced them with the C5 and they tried to replicate it with electronic suspension - and failed. It was rock hard. My dealer replaced the rear spheres with ones from the estate version and that helped.
I ran a Xantia 2.0 HDi for a few months in 2003/04. Lovely motor, but moved it on quickly for a small profit and replaced it with a MK1 Focus. I was looking for a more involving drive at the time, and the Focus was most definitely that.

I felt that Citroen engineered out the benefit of the suspension system as time went on. My CX was so much more smooth than the BX GTi I had. The Xantia again, whilst very smooth by today standards, was not CX like. Citroen clearly 'normalised' the suspension feel to gain market share and stay in business. Understadable for sure, but a loss.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on May 12, 2021, 09:22:00 AM
I only hung onto the C5 for a year. Nice and powerful being the 3.0 V6. I p/x it for an IS200 and that suspension was almost as good as the Xantia, nice and supple.

The IS200 got p/x for an 8th Gen Civic in 2007, just for the toys, and that suspension was rock hard in comparison. Just glad they softened it on the 9G Civic. Not perfect but OK.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 12, 2021, 02:29:58 PM
I only hung onto the C5 for a year. Nice and powerful being the 3.0 V6. I p/x it for an IS200 and t hat suspension was almost as good as the Xantia, nice and supple.

The IS200 got p/x for an 8th Gen Civic in 2007, just for the toys, and that suspension was rock hard in comparison. Just glad they softened it on the 9G Civic. Not perfect but OK.
3.0 V6 ! Very posh. I understand the V6 was a very smooth engine.

I've yet to own or even drive a Lexus. Very well made cars for sure. On the list of cars to own whilst we still can.

Fan of the Civic 8, still look fresh today. I test drove a 1.8 manual, but as you say, the ride is pretty firm. The 2.2 CDTi, even today, is a very rapid and frugal car.

IIRC with the 9G Civic, they revised the suspension again MY14> and it is a much more plush drive.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: E27006 on May 12, 2021, 02:48:28 PM
I always had a soft spot for the Citroen Traction Avant. Considering it dated back to the mid 1930s it was incredibly advanced. Unitary welded body/chassis, rack and pinion steering, and of course front wheel drive. Brilliant and stylish............. and made in Slough!!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_Traction_Avant#:~:text=The%20Citro%C3%ABn%20Traction%20Avant%20(French,Citro%C3%ABn%20from%201934%20to%201957.&text=Additionally%2C%20the%20car%20was%20also,of%20rack%20and%20pinion%20steering.
Stunning cars, they were so advanced for their time. I would love to have a drive in one. Interestingly, they were transport of choice for the Gestapo.

At the opposite end of the spectrum,  the fast rear-engined swing axle Tatra was the Czech secret weapon,accidents by German officers losing control of the Tatra led to orders banning their use
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on May 12, 2021, 04:01:10 PM
I only hung onto the C5 for a year. Nice and powerful being the 3.0 V6. I p/x it for an IS200 and t hat suspension was almost as good as the Xantia, nice and supple.

The IS200 got p/x for an 8th Gen Civic in 2007, just for the toys, and that suspension was rock hard in comparison. Just glad they softened it on the 9G Civic. Not perfect but OK.
3.0 V6 ! Very posh. I understand the V6 was a very smooth engine.

I've yet to own or even drive a Lexus. Very well made cars for sure. On the list of cars to own whilst we still can.

Fan of the Civic 8, still look fresh today. I test drove a 1.8 manual, but as you say, the ride is pretty firm. The 2.2 CDTi, even today, is a very rapid and frugal car.

IIRC with the 9G Civic, they revised the suspension again MY14> and it is a much more plush drive.

Under normal circumstances I would have changed to a 2016 Civic but at that time the Civic forum was full of tales of woe with the new Android headunit.
Given that I'd retired and wasn't doing the mileage any more I decided to hang onto my 2013.

Glad I did because it's been very reliable and I've no complaints.

Given the size of the latest Civics I think it's time to downsize slightly and the Mk4 Jazz fits the bill nicely.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 12, 2021, 04:02:05 PM
At the opposite end of the spectrum,  the fast rear-engined swing axle Tatra was the Czech secret weapon,accidents by German officers losing control of the Tatra led to orders banning their use
I didn't know that. Wouldn't surprise me!

I did know that the Tatra V570 design was copied by Mr Porsche and became the VW Beetle. Very advanced engineers were the Czechs.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: richardfrost on May 14, 2021, 11:20:27 AM
Un-chuffing-believable!
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 14, 2021, 11:31:17 AM
I take it that is the road and not a parking space.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: d2d4j on May 14, 2021, 11:34:13 AM
Hi

2 parking spaces. I see it a lot

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 14, 2021, 11:41:09 AM
Almost looks like that pillock is in four parking spots! He's not helping the stereotype of Audi drivers.  :D 

Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: E27006 on May 14, 2021, 11:54:16 AM
It could have broken down,  my workmate purchased a new Audi A4 DSG diesel,  the A4 was a joke,   in and out of the workshop,  in the first 6 months of ownership he was in courtesy cars for  4 months  while the some big ticket items were replaced under warranty, a  failed ECU was one of them, body panel water leaks, and the DSG transmission had excessive  shunt and backlash during gearchanges. His next car choice a diesel Jaguar, reliable but terrible  depreciation, his latest car a Volvo so far no issues.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 14, 2021, 01:56:40 PM
I take it that is the road and not a parking space.
I see the white line under the car now. Looks like 4 parking spaces.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: richardfrost on May 14, 2021, 03:42:18 PM
I take it that is the road and not a parking space.
I see the white line under the car now. Looks like 4 parking spaces.

It was. I was sitting in the car with my dog whilst the Mrs was shopping and saw this woman drive up, on her phone, get out and walk away, all without taking a breath. Ignorant does not cover it.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: swhull on May 14, 2021, 07:41:16 PM
Un-chuffing-believable!

This is how you have to park to avoid getting too close to the ‘great unwashed’ and their peasant wagons.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: springswood on May 15, 2021, 08:21:03 AM
I was thinking of getting some of these printed. With a suitable adhesive backing, of course. Something needing a scraper and a solvent to remove is tempting but questionable. Even something that is cleanly removed could give the message. I'd say it might shame people but the gall of some is astounding.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Westy36 on May 15, 2021, 08:49:56 AM
I love those stickers, brilliant idea!

You could choose to name and shame: https://rate-driver.co.uk/

Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: springswood on May 15, 2021, 10:23:38 AM
rate-driver looks great for expelling righteous indignation but I wonder if the people who really need to look ever go there. At least I don't seem to have made an appearance  ::)

Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 18, 2021, 11:08:02 AM
This morning I saw a 53 plate CR-V. It was immaculate, though the styling really looks dated.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 19, 2021, 04:03:38 PM
While travelling on the A720 City Bypass over to the south of Edinburgh this morning there was a breakdown causing the two lanes of traffic to queue back for a couple of miles. There was a girl in an Audi A3 in front of me in lane 2, and as the traffic in lane 1 picked up a little she changed lanes. As always happens lane 2 started to move, albeit slowly, and she ended up alongside me. I was a couple of car lengths from the vehicle in front when suddenly she accelerated. I thought she was coming back into space she had given up but I was wrong. She was accelerating straight into the rear of the large Mercedes saloon ahead of her! Last I saw they were pulling into a layby just ahead of the accident site.
Perhaps her DSG gearbox was acting up.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Kremmen on May 19, 2021, 04:14:19 PM
I couldn't even guess on that one.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 19, 2021, 04:40:37 PM
Perhaps her DSG gearbox was acting up.
I typed that with tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on May 31, 2021, 11:04:51 PM
While crawling along the City Bypass this evening, during the "rush" hour. I was alongside an immaculate Honda S2000. It was deep dark blue and the driver had the roof down. What a beautiful machine.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: embee on June 01, 2021, 04:35:03 PM
... an immaculate Honda S2000. ....... What a beautiful machine.
At one engine consultancy place I worked at they had a database of engine friction tests they had done. The lowest friction engine on the list was the S2000.

As for "unintended accelerations", quite common over in the USA and they usually end up in law suits against the manufacturer, it nearly always turns out that it's driver error putting a foot on the accelerator rather than the brake pedal in auto cars. The brain says I'm braking but the car is getting faster so I need to push harder on the "brake" .....
Modern ECUs can tell what has been operated, often contrary to what the driver thinks they did.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on July 21, 2021, 07:57:45 PM
I was following an artic today and I noticed that instead of the usual array of mirrors on either side of the cab there was a small camera on a stalk at each side. Following the Honda e's lead.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on July 31, 2021, 05:04:25 PM
Today, while heading north on the M90 I came up behind an EV single-decker bus. It was a Yutong TCe12, operated by "ember", between Edinburgh and Dundee.

(https://www.triodos.co.uk/binaries/content/gallery/tbuk/inline/articles/2020/dji_0199.jpg/dji_0199.jpg/triodoshippo%3AinlineImage)

First time I have seen one.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: richardfrost on August 22, 2021, 05:41:34 PM
These two oddballs. Never seen anything like these before. Not your usual camper vans.
Title: Re: Seen today
Post by: Jocko on August 22, 2021, 07:21:53 PM
The blue one is a JURGENS AUTOVILLA according to the DVLA. Looks like a recent import. The beige one is described as a VW Campervan, but looks to be the same.