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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 => Topic started by: Skyrider on April 23, 2018, 10:34:31 PM

Title: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on April 23, 2018, 10:34:31 PM
Do I have to wear a baseball cap on backwards while driving my Sport?
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: madasafish on April 24, 2018, 06:30:26 AM
Only if your IQ is 95 or lower.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on April 24, 2018, 08:44:59 AM
The fact that I had to ask is worrying. :-)
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: ColinB on April 24, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
Do I have to wear a baseball cap on backwards while driving my Sport?
As the normal mode is with the peak to the rear, I assume by "backwards" you mean with the peak to the front ? That would simply identify you as a driver who feels it necessary to wear a cap in a car, which would definitely indicate a driver for the rest of us to avoid.  ;D
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: trebor1652 on April 24, 2018, 09:35:41 AM
Totally right colinb, and if it's in a BMW wow and betide any other road users.

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Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: andruec on April 24, 2018, 03:37:02 PM
Do I have to wear a baseball cap on backwards while driving my Sport?
As the normal mode is with the peak to the rear, I assume by "backwards" you mean with the peak to the front ? That would simply identify you as a driver who feels it necessary to wear a cap in a car, which would definitely indicate a driver for the rest of us to avoid.  ;D
Someone driving a Jazz whilst wearing a cap. The only thing missing is the pipe. Truly a vision to inspire fear and loathing in everyone that sees them :)
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: John Ratsey on April 24, 2018, 04:13:00 PM
That would simply identify you as a driver who feels it necessary to wear a cap in a car, which would definitely indicate a driver for the rest of us to avoid.  ;D
Then watch out for me! I usually wear a cap for two reasons: Firstly there's no a lot of hair left to keep my head warm on a cold day and secondly the peak makes a useful sun visor on the sunny days which is much easier to move around (particularly for sun coming from the side) than the visor provided with the vehicle. Also, keeping the cap on my head saves having to look for it when I get out. However, it's a proper mens cap and not one of these baseball thingies.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: VicW on April 24, 2018, 04:29:02 PM
A worse combination is the trilby and sheepskin coat with the collar turned up, popular around here and a driver/car combination to avoid !

Vic.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: trebor1652 on April 24, 2018, 04:29:02 PM
Oh dear.
I hope you don't live in my part of the world.

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Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on April 24, 2018, 04:58:04 PM
That would simply identify you as a driver who feels it necessary to wear a cap in a car, which would definitely indicate a driver for the rest of us to avoid.  ;D
Then watch out for me! I usually wear a cap for two reasons: Firstly there's no a lot of hair left to keep my head warm on a cold day and secondly the peak makes a useful sun visor on the sunny days which is much easier to move around (particularly for sun coming from the side) than the visor provided with the vehicle. Also, keeping the cap on my head saves having to look for it when I get out. However, it's a proper mens cap and not one of these baseball thingies.

Don't the HRV sun visors pivot through 90 ish degrees to cover the side windows when required? A handy feature on most cars and especially useful when on a North / South motorway early or late in the day.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: andruec on April 24, 2018, 09:10:46 PM
That would simply identify you as a driver who feels it necessary to wear a cap in a car, which would definitely indicate a driver for the rest of us to avoid.  ;D
Then watch out for me! I usually wear a cap for two reasons: Firstly there's no a lot of hair left to keep my head warm on a cold day and secondly the peak makes a useful sun visor on the sunny days which is much easier to move around (particularly for sun coming from the side) than the visor provided with the vehicle. Also, keeping the cap on my head saves having to look for it when I get out. However, it's a proper mens cap and not one of these baseball thingies.

Don't the HRV sun visors pivot through 90 ish degrees to cover the side windows when required? A handy feature on most cars and especially useful when on a North / South motorway early or late in the day.
On modern cars though I find that my head gets in the way. I still move them over if I have to put it doesn't feel like a safe manoeuvre, one hand off the wheel, tugging at the visor while bending my head over to one side to get the visor across.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: John Ratsey on April 24, 2018, 10:35:25 PM
Don't the HRV sun visors pivot through 90 ish degrees to cover the side windows when required? A handy feature on most cars and especially useful when on a North / South motorway early or late in the day.
On modern cars though I find that my head gets in the way. I still move them over if I have to put it doesn't feel like a safe manoeuvre, one hand off the wheel, tugging at the visor while bending my head over to one side to get the visor across.
You answered the question for me with the correct response. The visor does rotate but my head interferes with moving it between front and side. Perhaps those who like a semi-reclined driving position don't encounter this problem but I like to be relatively upright.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on April 25, 2018, 08:21:53 AM
I don't have a problem with head interference, I pull the visor from its clip but only pull it down as I turn it, this only requires a small head movement. It is not a frequent type of visor deployment so I don't find it a hassle. The baseball cap is a good substitute but there is no way I would wear one sideways or backwards, I grew out of that about 60 years ago.  :-)
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: guest7675 on May 04, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
Great baseball cap with honda on lewis hamilton asks for his all the time although not back to front haha but if you have little hair i think better than a syrup of figs, or the old mans flat cap.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: guest7675 on May 04, 2018, 02:55:05 PM
Not sure if its been mentioned on the forum that the new 2017-18 honda jazz for uk is made in japan as they used to be assembled in uk.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on May 04, 2018, 05:13:43 PM
All the UK spec Mk3s are built in Japan. The first letter of the VIN indicates a cars origin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: jazzaro on May 04, 2018, 06:19:13 PM
All European GK3 Jazz come from Japan, Vin is JHMGKxxxxxxxx.
1.5 Jazz should be GK5, could you confirm?
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on May 04, 2018, 06:24:26 PM
All European GK3 Jazz come from Japan, Vin is JHMGKxxxxxxxx.
1.5 Jazz should be GK5, could you confirm?

Mine is a GK

Variant 501

Version 2

Whatever that means.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: guest7675 on May 04, 2018, 06:25:16 PM
All the UK spec Mk3s are built in Japan. The first letter of the VIN indicates a cars origin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number

I think that maybe a asset its made in japan as i used to have many of the late 70s and 80s datsun cars and a honda civic crx and found not one ever had any reliability issues although many japanese cars are now assembled in different countries and seem to have good quality controls.
I did hear that japanese built suzuki ignis 1.5 sports had a good feedback and some swifts made in hungrey had a few quality problems but they may have sorted that now.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on May 04, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
I have owned half a dozen Japanese built cars, some as far back as the 1970s. The only failure I had on any of them was a thermostat stuck half open, easily spotted on the temperature gauge, what happened to them?  I think it was a ten minute job to replace it.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: andruec on May 04, 2018, 07:36:29 PM
Yup. I attribute the slightly poor design of the Mk3 to the lack of input the UK had in it.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on May 04, 2018, 07:49:31 PM
Yup. I attribute the slightly poor design of the Mk3 to the lack of input the UK had in it.

Like the BMC lunch time beer cans welded into the voids or dumped inside the doors of cars on the production line?
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: culzean on May 04, 2018, 07:56:14 PM
Yup. I attribute the slightly poor design of the Mk3 to the lack of input the UK had in it.

Like the BMC lunch time beer cans welded into the voids or dumped inside the doors of cars on the production line?

Nothing wrong with Jap designed cars made in UK (or UK designed Jap cars made in UK) - just like during the war Germany described British soldiers as 'Lions lead by Donkeys' - British car companies suffered from poor management - the typical 'them and us' mentality between management and workers.  Originally Jap cars were rust buckets - The Brits and Japs work well together as the Japs really believe in teamwork, don't just pay lip service to it.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Jocko on May 04, 2018, 09:02:22 PM
Originally Jap cars were rust buckets
I had a mate bought a brand new Datsun 120Y in 1977. Its first MOT it needed about £600 of welding done (1980 prices) and in 1981 it failed so miserably he scrapped it. With less than 35K miles on the clock. Apart from the rust, it never let him down once.
(http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay176886.jpg)
By 1986, Datsun was such a tainted brand that Nissan dropped the brand name and started selling their cars under Nissan. The Datsun name was relaunched in 2013 in "emerging markets".
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: andruec on May 04, 2018, 09:04:20 PM
Yup. I attribute the slightly poor design of the Mk3 to the lack of input the UK had in it.

Like the BMC lunch time beer cans welded into the voids or dumped inside the doors of cars on the production line?
No. That was British workers led by crappy British managers, often for government owned industry. I'm the first one to criticise and take the piss out of BL and don't have much time for Ford or Vauxhall either.

But British workers are extremely capable and when encouraged by properly trained and motivated managers they produce fantastic products. I'm pretty sure that the Mk1 and Mk2 were as good as they were because the British team offered advice and suggestions based on their knowledge of the market. The Mk3 by contrast is typical Japanese design. Functional. Even technologically advanced but poorly thought out from a usability point of view.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: jazzaro on May 04, 2018, 09:36:33 PM
All European GK3 Jazz come from Japan, Vin is JHMGKxxxxxxxx.
1.5 Jazz should be GK5, could you confirm?

Mine is a GK

Variant 501

Version 2

Whatever that means.
Your VIN should be JHMGK5xxxxxxxx
JHM stays for built in Yorii Japan, (would be 3HG if built in  Celaya Mexico, 93H if in Sumarč Brasil, MRH if Ayutthaya Thailand and so on), then GK, and then the  variant.:
3 if 1.3 Jazz/Fit with CVT or 6m gearbox.
4 if 1.3 Fit 4WD
5 if 1.5 Jazz/Fit with CVT or 6m gearbox.
6 if 1.5 Fit 4WD
Some VIN can be JHMGP5 where GP5 means  Jazz/Fit 1.5 I-DCD hybrid.
I don't know the variant code for the hybrid 4wd.
There should be another variants for some Jazz in India (1.2 16v and the diesel 1.5 I-CDTI) but I don't know this codes (maybe GK2...)
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: guest7675 on May 05, 2018, 05:59:28 PM
Im glad that the mk3 for uk is made in japan rather than india.
Title: Re: Jazz Sport.
Post by: Skyrider on May 05, 2018, 06:08:14 PM
Me too!