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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Atkinson engine and CVT
« Last post by Ralph on Today at 08:09:21 PM »
I test drove both the 1.5 & 1.3 cvts. I liked the extra power of the bigger engine, the 1.3 has to rev more to get past the low power stage. But not having all the goodies that the EX has swung it for me. The gearbox solves all the issues I had with the 1.3 manual and I quite like a revy engine Im happy with my Choice.

What "goodies" does the EX have over the Sport? I can only think of an extra power socket, climate control, and tinted rear windows. My Sport has tinted rear windows, not difficult to organise. The 1.5 engine is no contest against them, I would not consider a gold plated 1.3.

I prefer comfort and convenience over over a little extra power with the EX you get
climate control (not having this is the deal breaker)
Reversing camera
Keyless entry and start
If I was interested in performance I wouldnt be driving a Jazz
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: This damned tyre pressure warning system.
« Last post by Sidot on Today at 07:56:01 PM »
Im back from holiday.
675 miles in UK and France.
Guess what......that's it TPWS on all the time no matter what I do.
Ignore it....reset it.....reinflate tyres and reset it, nothing stopped it coming on.
It's a shame because other than that the car performed very well.
Got a SE CVT on order and can't wait to say cheerio to this car.
I'm saying that whoever buys this car from Brindley Honda will get a very good car with only 18k miles on the clock and a TPWS that cannot be cured from malfunctioning.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Atkinson engine and CVT
« Last post by Skyrider on Today at 07:43:06 PM »
I test drove both the 1.5 & 1.3 cvts. I liked the extra power of the bigger engine, the 1.3 has to rev more to get past the low power stage. But not having all the goodies that the EX has swung it for me. The gearbox solves all the issues I had with the 1.3 manual and I quite like a revy engine Im happy with my Choice.

What "goodies" does the EX have over the Sport? I can only think of an extra power socket, climate control, and tinted rear windows. My Sport has tinted rear windows, not difficult to organise. The 1.5 engine is no contest against them, I would not consider a gold plated 1.3.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Atkinson engine and CVT
« Last post by mikebore on Today at 06:35:12 PM »
You do have to kick it out of Atkinson mode when you want to move, at last the original version. The facelifted version might have better programming in this respect - the courtesy car I drove earlier this year seemed better.

It's the downside of an automatic - the car can choose what ratio it wants and unless you signal your intentions the older Mk3 prefers to keep the rpm low.

On a cvt how do you kick it out of Atkinson mode, can someone please explain Atkinson mode. Thank you.

As someone else said, I find a quick pull or two on the left paddle much more responsive than the accelerator pedal when wanting to kick it it out of Atkinson. I find flooring the accelerator slower and awkward, and have never noticed a notch.

If you haven't found the accelerator pedal detent, don't worry, you don't need it or the power it releases.  :D

I think my normal driving position makes flooring the accelerator too much of a stretch. Will do a bit of experimenting on a suitable bit of road with no nervous pax.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Atkinson engine and CVT
« Last post by Roddy0000 on Today at 06:29:57 PM »
I test drove both the 1.5 & 1.3 cvts. I liked the extra power of the bigger engine, the 1.3 has to rev more to get past the low power stage. But not having all the goodies that the EX has swung it for me. The gearbox solves all the issues I had with the 1.3 manual and I quite like a revy engine Im happy with my Choice.
In the 2 months that I have had mine I am quite happy with the power with the CVT box, it pulls away when I need it to....
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Thanks a lot. What an excellent forum. Making my first few journeys with a spare couple of silica bead bags in case it rains, then I'll get a dealership on to the leak. Anybody on here who managed to get in done with any goodwill contribution within the last few years, do pipe up.

All the best to you guys for helping, good motoring.
Cheers
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: Flat as a fart
« Last post by Pine on Today at 05:32:20 PM »
I really enjoyed my Mk1 CVT.  My Mk2 CVT was a different story.  For me the problem was the CVT gearbox.  It is designed to keep the revs low for economy, but the engine has little torque at low rpm and I found it struggled up the many hills near where I live.  Drive it with the RPM above 4K it is a different car, however it is impractical to drive around town or in traffic with the engine revving at 4 or 5K, so sadly it had to go and I changed to a different manufacturer.

Even though it is several years since I owned a Honda I still enjoy looking at this forum as there are some good discussions here.  I am thinking of changing my car next year so I may look at the Jazz Sport although there are some features I like that are missing from it.   Currently I am favouring a Mazda CX-3.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Atkinson engine and CVT
« Last post by Skyrider on Today at 05:23:32 PM »
You do have to kick it out of Atkinson mode when you want to move, at last the original version. The facelifted version might have better programming in this respect - the courtesy car I drove earlier this year seemed better.

It's the downside of an automatic - the car can choose what ratio it wants and unless you signal your intentions the older Mk3 prefers to keep the rpm low.

On a cvt how do you kick it out of Atkinson mode, can someone please explain Atkinson mode. Thank you.

As someone else said, I find a quick pull or two on the left paddle much more responsive than the accelerator pedal when wanting to kick it it out of Atkinson. I find flooring the accelerator slower and awkward, and have never noticed a notch.
Perhaps you need to press it further :)

It's not something I notice very often because I very rarely want that kind of acceleration. Others have noticed it though and some think it's a kick down switch, others think it might be a switch that overrides the speed limiter. I don't think it's a traditional kick down switch because the engine seems to kick-down without going that far. However I have noticed that if I push past the click then immediately release the pedal the car can buck around alarmingly so perhaps it's a 'super kick down'. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the manual.

It's not surprising that car "Bucks around" if you floor it and immediately release the accelerator. You are applying full power and then releasing the accelerator. Not conducive to smooth, rapid, unobtrusive progress.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Atkinson engine and CVT
« Last post by Skyrider on Today at 05:18:38 PM »
You do have to kick it out of Atkinson mode when you want to move, at last the original version. The facelifted version might have better programming in this respect - the courtesy car I drove earlier this year seemed better.

It's the downside of an automatic - the car can choose what ratio it wants and unless you signal your intentions the older Mk3 prefers to keep the rpm low.

On a cvt how do you kick it out of Atkinson mode, can someone please explain Atkinson mode. Thank you.

As someone else said, I find a quick pull or two on the left paddle much more responsive than the accelerator pedal when wanting to kick it it out of Atkinson. I find flooring the accelerator slower and awkward, and have never noticed a notch.

If you haven't found the accelerator pedal detent, don't worry, you don't need it or the power it releases.  :D
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