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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: Lord Voltermore on March 23, 2024, 05:57:35 PM
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Step one. Introduce your wife to £0,90 per litre wine box. Step 2 . Dispense in sufficient quantities that your wife says "I'm done with frugal, I dont want a car with less than we have now" Good investment.
What do you regard as essential and worth the extra. Which would be better spent on better wine.?
I know its been discussed before. Maybe the answer is to refer to a previous thread. But there new members and new trim trim models.
For me, reversing camera is a must. Maybe an after market option if necessary. Heated seats, probably , heated steering wheel maybe. Inbuilt satnav, No if smart phone alternatives can be displayed. Extra faux leather trim -no.
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I don't drink wine so... I want everything :) Seriously leather seats used to be nice, had them in the Civics, but nowadays not worth it with part coverings they now do. Low profile tyres on our terrible roads, complete waste of money! Heated seats and steering so much quicker than the air con, once comfortable after a couple of minutes you hardly need the aircon. Satnav a must, Android auto good enough. The last Civic had motor seats with side and lumbar adjusts, don't really miss it, Jazz seats are just fine.
Frankly the best feature not on the Jazz is the all round cameras in the E, they are just brilliant for parking, you can judge kerbs within cm so easily, better than stretching and upping and downing the side mirrors, garages and public car parks now a breeze. I really would want that in any car from now on.
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Things I like, and would pay for:
- Reverse camera. Makes reversing a breeze. It would be even better if the camera could hide itself from dust, like on a Mercedes-Benz or Volkswagen.
- Heated seats and heated steering wheel. I don't need to bring gloves to car anymore.
- Ability to tow a trailer. 2024 Jazz models can tow up to 500 kg, which is good. But I would wish for 750 kg. 2023 models were not approved for towing for some reason.
- Auto-dimming rearview mirror. Jazz doesn't have this, but I would pay for this if this was an accessory.
- Satnav or (Carplay and Android auto) or at least a holder for phone. Some way to display maps while driving.
- 2-spoke steering wheel. Lets you hold the wheel from the bottom as well. Jazz Advance and Crosstar have this, but Jazz Sport doesn't.
Things I wouldn't pay for:
- Roof rails on Crosstar. They add drag, wasting fuel. And they are on the way when brushing snow off the roof of the car. Still I'm going to keep them on my Crosstar, they aren't that bad.
- Low profile tyres and large wheels. Sensitive to potholes and more expensive to replace too. Most Jazz models come with 16" wheels. I wish they came with 15" wheels instead.
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I went for the EX Style, as it had what I was used to on my previous Renaults:
Reverse camera
Heated seats/steering wheel
Sat nav
Door protectors and rear spoiler
Climate control
Auto cruise control
Side collision monitor
Front and rear parking sensors
So, all these gadgets/trickery I had become used to and enjoyed. I wasn't prepared to go backwards and lose these luxuries.
What I do miss that the Renaults had, were auto dimming mirror, TomTom (which I did find better than the Garmin.. but only slightly) and height adjusting/positioning passenger seat... although the magic seats do make up for this loss.
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Good point, I always get door protectors, and wish they would integrate them more into designs to make them less obvious but really practical. Not our Jazz, but most SUVs that dominate the market are bigger and bigger, with public parking smaller and smaller in comparison.
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Dash-cam would have been nice as standard equipment even better front and rear would maybe put the roundabout shunters off from making a false claim.
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I miss the auto-folding mirrors that Honda left off my HR-V. Fortunately I have the reversing camera and heated seats. I don't want tinted glass on the back windows as it increases the risk of motion sickness for any rear seat passengers. It would be nice to have parking sensors which showed the distance (inches/or cm) but I don't know if anyone offers that feature. Then there's the matter of having proper knobs and buttons for controlling the heating/ventilation. And I'll vote for small wheels with high profile tyres that can absorb the impact from the potholes.
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Dash-cam would have been nice as standard equipment even better front and rear would maybe put the roundabout shunters off from making a false claim.
Good point: The cameras are built in so all that's needed is a memory card slot.
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Dash-cam would have been nice as standard equipment even better front and rear would maybe put the roundabout shunters off from making a false claim.
Good point: The cameras are built in so all that's needed is a memory card slot.
Has been discussed before. Problem is that in some countries dashcams are not legal.
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The cars I've seen with built in or optional dashcams have been poor quality 1080p jobs, at best, with low bitrates with unknown sensors
Trying to read number plates of oncoming vehicles except at crawling speeds is almost impossible
My Viofo A119 V3 captures most details with good clarity and the latest Viofo models seem even better
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We've all gone soft. Heated steering wheels and seats - love them, but surely in the category of luxury we can 'easily' live without. We all used to live without them. However we used to live without parking sensors and reverse cameras, but I'd find those a lot harder to give up!! The thing I'd really not like to be without now is adaptive cruise. Faux or real leather - absolutely couldn't care less - rather have nice cloth seats. As for auto-dimming rear view mirrors. I have NEVER found one that I think is any good on any car. Much prefer manual dimming mirrors. I know loads of people love them - each to their own!! Dash cams - like to try one. Currently have a camera recording sticker in the rear window which seems to work quite well, I guess cost / ease of fitting has put me off so far, but I will take the plunge soon ;D
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Dashcams are a pain to wire as ideally they need the Option Connector to help hide the wiring
Using the fag socket with a wire draping up and across the dash is a big no no for me
Heated seats and steering wheel, never used them. Always found my body heat does a perfectly good job.
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If you have an EX with standard rear passenger USB power points these are rated at 2 amps,which is normally more than enough to power a dashcam. (But best to check) I connect my FRONT dash cam (a Garmin mini 2) to one of these using the extra long usb lead that came in the box. (or you could buy a lead separately) It was long enough to hide behind trim etc for its entire length making it an unobtrusive semi permanent fixture. I only unplug it when entering countries where dashcams are illegal. I could probably connect a rear dashcam to the other rear socket in the same way but havnt done so.
Been using another car recently without reversing camera, and cross traffic monitoring , and its been a literal pain in the neck reversing out of parking spaces. I am reasonably flexible for an old codger ,and do supplement mirrors, cameras bleepers etc by physically turning my head, and torso for a better view but I did miss the added reassurance of gismos.
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Dashcams are a pain to wire as ideally they need the Option Connector to help hide the wiring
Using the fag socket with a wire draping up and across the dash is a big no no for me
Heated seats and steering wheel, never used them. Always found my body heat does a perfectly good job.
Why would you need to drape the wiring over the dash from the fag socket? It is easily threaded around and under the dash and trim, up into the roof liner. Apart from a couple of inches of wire from the fag socket going into the passenger footwell, everything else is hidden.
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Thats exactly how I installed my dashcam
Things I could do without? Almost ever "extra" included in modern cars, specifically (but not limited to):-
Privacy glass (makes the rear view very dim)
Heated seats/wheel
Most "driver aids" especially lane departure warning and the like. If you NEED aids like this then you should consider if you are concentrating enough on your driving.
Pseudo buttons (impossible to use without taking your eyes off of the road)
Mobile phone integration (again, you should be driving not holding a potentially stressful conversation)
I could go on, but I'll shut up before you realise what an old fart I really am.
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The Option Connector is designed for accessories like dash cams
On my install, the only wiring visible is from the headlining down to the dashcam, about 3 inches. All the remaining wire is hidden
Ignore the SatNav in the link, that's long gone
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=12345.msg105812#msg105812
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The Option Connector is designed for accessories like dash cams
On my install, the only wiring visible is from the headlining down to the dashcam, about 3 inches. All the remaining wire is hidden
Ignore the SatNav in the link, that's long gone
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=12345.msg105812#msg105812
Bugger all that, wouldn't trust myself muckin' about with the cars electrics :D :D
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TBH, it's all plain sailing
The option connector, once you've managed to get one, just plugs in and for the Jazz has 4 wires
I can't remember all of them but the one I wanted was the one that powers on and off with the main power. ACC mode doesn't trigger it
I had option connectors with my 8G and 9G Civics so I was aware of what they did
As many will say though, not for everyone
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I used option connectors on two of the Civics because they were easily available courtesy of the forum members, but on the Jazz with 4 USBs available there is no point to the 12V socket so just used that. I installed just like Nicksey's pics, virtually no wires visible, even for the rear camera, my 12V adapter just has a side cable exit on the passenger side tucked away, and a pass through USB power at the rear, so now three USBs at the front.
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Thats exactly how I installed my dashcam
Things I could do without? Almost ever "extra" included in modern cars, specifically (but not limited to):-
Privacy glass (makes the rear view very dim)
Heated seats/wheel
Most "driver aids" especially lane departure warning and the like. If you NEED aids like this then you should consider if you are concentrating enough on your driving.
Pseudo buttons (impossible to use without taking your eyes off of the road)
Mobile phone integration (again, you should be driving not holding a potentially stressful conversation)
I could go on, but I'll shut up before you realise what an old fart I really am.
...I won't insult you or your ideology so, no comment.
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Having just moved from a 2020 Crosstar to a late 2023 Advance Sport there are a few noticeable differences:
Paddles on steering wheel for regen levels, there are four in total rather than just the two on the old car, I believe it's the same on the HR-V. Now I've got used to it find it easier than fiddling with the gear shifter.
The seats are really comfortable and supportive on the new car.
Heated steering wheel makes a big difference on longer journeys as I have arthritis
The lane keep assist and cruise control are much smoother, on the old car I gave up using the cruise control as it could be a bit scary with late braking and rapid acceleration but they seem to have sorted that out now.
Both the old car and the new one have proper alloy wheels, that's a bit of a deal-breaker for me as I don't like the wheels with plastic covers.
The brakes seem to be softer, either the pads are worn (unlikely since it's only done 1800 miles) or it maybe has a redesigned brake pedal simulator following the problems on early models?
The engine is now 120 bhp on all new Jazz models which is noticeably quicker
There is no longer a button for parking sensors, they can only be switched off through a menu (a bit annoying)