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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Whiteshark on Today at 03:06:30 PM »The Toyota 10 year warranty is not free but paid on top of the service charge.
There is no extra charge for the Toyota warranty extension. So long as you get the car serviced at the appropriate time, another year gets added on. Not sure what you mean by 'paid on top of the service charge'.
The Toyota manufacturer warranty is 3 years. The extended 7 year warranty offered , if it is serviced at a Toyota garage is provided by an independent insurance company and not as good as the 3 year. The annual cost of this insurance is factored into the service cost, plus if you need to have repair work done that is not covered, you will pay full main dealer prices. A service costs less without the extended warranty cost, for example over 10 years old, by negotiation.
The point I am trying to make is that Toyota /Lexus are like Honda or anybody else , only as good as the dealers. I have a lot of experience with both, and a visit to their forums will confirm.
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Site Help & Feedback / Re: Site performance issue
« Last post by Kremmen on Today at 03:02:32 PM »Been almost unreachable today with bad gateway error
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Code maintenance notice
« Last post by Wonder on Today at 11:01:38 AM »HI,
the maintenance soon message appeared with this message:
28 sun design/star design B7
Unfortunately I can no longer find the maintenance codes, they are not available on the Honda Italia website, does anyone know what it means and possibly tell me where I can find a table for the codes?
28 are definitely the days I have left before maintenance, but the rest!!???
Thanks for your help
(Sorry for the mistakes, I used Google Translate)
the maintenance soon message appeared with this message:
28 sun design/star design B7
Unfortunately I can no longer find the maintenance codes, they are not available on the Honda Italia website, does anyone know what it means and possibly tell me where I can find a table for the codes?
28 are definitely the days I have left before maintenance, but the rest!!???
Thanks for your help
(Sorry for the mistakes, I used Google Translate)
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 / Re: Carb flooded.
« Last post by embee on Today at 08:53:48 AM »It's not actually "flooded" (technically), rather the fuel enrichment used for cold starting results in some wet carbon which normally burns off in the first few seconds of normal running. Cranking fuelling and afterstart enrichment ramps off within a short time, something of the order of 10sec or so, and the combustion chamber will be hot enough to clear moisture and wet carbon after maybe 30sec.
The general guide is not to start and run an engine, especially from cold, for less than 30sec or preferably a minute.
In industry we did specific plug fouling tests consisting of repeated cold starts and stop cycles. We measured plug resistance and you can plot the trend and predict quite accurately how many cycles will lead to fouling. Our problems were mainly to do with the production and delivery practices of moving and shipping cars, there were many starts without the engine ever getting properly hot.
The general guide is not to start and run an engine, especially from cold, for less than 30sec or preferably a minute.
In industry we did specific plug fouling tests consisting of repeated cold starts and stop cycles. We measured plug resistance and you can plot the trend and predict quite accurately how many cycles will lead to fouling. Our problems were mainly to do with the production and delivery practices of moving and shipping cars, there were many starts without the engine ever getting properly hot.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by richardfrost on April 26, 2024, 11:29:29 PM »The Toyota 10 year warranty is not free but paid on top of the service charge.
There is no extra charge for the Toyota warranty extension. So long as you get the car serviced at the appropriate time, another year gets added on. Not sure what you mean by 'paid on top of the service charge'.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Whiteshark on April 26, 2024, 06:19:33 PM »Absolutely agree with the variable standard of dealers, irrespective of car manufacturer. However, a major point with this brake failure is it is occurring just outside the standard Honda 3 year warranty and from numerous posts it seems Honda certainly at first see this as a customer problem not theirs. I believe that provided they service your car regularly, Toyota provide a ten year warranty which is a definite plus.
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That is correct, but Honda offer a 5 year warranty care plan, which I have, plus I expect it is possible to extend that also. The Toyota 10 year warranty is not free but paid on top of the service charge. Each manufacturer will offer their own options, for example the Honda 5 year service plan is fantastic value.
All manufacturers warranty period, whatever length, is definitive, and if something fails outside it is then your problem. I do think in this case as it is potentially safety related and affecting a larger number, Honda should warrant it, and take responsibility.
The other issue of course is then the discussion that takes place as to whether the failure is a warranty issue, and I can assure you Toyota and Lexus , even with their 10 year cover have issues.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Saycol on April 26, 2024, 05:50:32 PM »Absolutely agree with the variable standard of dealers, irrespective of car manufacturer. However, a major point with this brake failure is it is occurring just outside the standard Honda 3 year warranty and from numerous posts it seems Honda certainly at first see this as a customer problem not theirs. I believe that provided they service your car regularly, Toyota provide a ten year warranty which is a definite plus.If honda are paying for tbe replacement defective part then the non delivery of that part is causing the need to hire a replacement. Simple Honda should pay if that delay is weeks and weeks . You cant buy the part elsewhere .My dealer would provide a courtesy car under such circumstances even if Honda Uk wont ! Thats why the family owned dealers keep their valued customers !! You absolutely wouldnt get this treatment with toyota or lexus !I agree that a good dealer would and should look after you. However as already mentioned on here, it would appear that Toyota/Lexus are saints. They are not, and a visit to their forums will confirm. I have had Lexus for years and the same criteria as above apply, some dealers are good others aren’t and they experience very similar issues, including angry forum members.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: 12 V battery warning light
« Last post by Whiteshark on April 26, 2024, 04:50:20 PM »Was discussing this with a friend the other night, who has an old Rover 75 and a Honda Civic. I told him about the soy issue and he said bizarrely it is all over the Rover owners forum about rodents eating through wiring harnesses, all of a sudden, so it affecting them as well. I don’t think soy is involved though !
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Whiteshark on April 26, 2024, 04:43:19 PM »If honda are paying for tbe replacement defective part then the non delivery of that part is causing the need to hire a replacement. Simple Honda should pay if that delay is weeks and weeks . You cant buy the part elsewhere .My dealer would provide a courtesy car under such circumstances even if Honda Uk wont ! Thats why the family owned dealers keep their valued customers !! You absolutely wouldnt get this treatment with toyota or lexus !I agree that a good dealer would and should look after you. However as already mentioned on here, it would appear that Toyota/Lexus are saints. They are not, and a visit to their forums will confirm. I have had Lexus for years and the same criteria as above apply, some dealers are good others aren’t and they experience very similar issues, including angry forum members.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Last post by Lincolnshire Rambler on April 26, 2024, 03:20:55 PM »If honda are paying for tbe replacement defective part then the non delivery of that part is causing the need to hire a replacement. Simple Honda should pay if that delay is weeks and weeks . You cant buy the part elsewhere .My dealer would provide a courtesy car under such circumstances even if Honda Uk wont ! Thats why the family owned dealers keep their valued customers !! You absolutely wouldnt get this treatment with toyota or lexus !
